RickM46 posted:

Thought I saw in some thread what the differences were between the VL Big Boy and the one in the 2019 Vol 2 catalog.  Does anyone know what those differences are??

Yes you are correct. I answered this question in the thread on the matter of the catalog. Here is the answer to your question.

Vl big boy’s: the vision line big boy’s have four smoke units total. There are two for the smoke stack and one for the whistle. The smoke stacks have two smoke units because it has an alternating chuff. (You can get a better visual on Eric’s trains.) The next smoke features are the whistle steam and the blow down effect. Again total amount of smokes units are four. Since this is a vision line product Lionel usually puts some thins new and different into there locomotives. For the big boy’s they created the depleting coal load affect in the tender. This is a cool feature in my opinion, since this was a coal eating machine, it is nice to get a bit of the feeling that your loco is really working. That is all for the vision line bb so now let’s look at the new legacy version. 

The legacy bb: to start off with the new version is I would say is more based on the appearance than the extra smoke features. First off the locomotive only has a single smoke unit for the stack and it also has one for the whistle. There is not one for a blow down affect. Down towards the tender, instead of it being a coal tender it is an oil tender. This means there is no more depleting coal load. 

For both, they both have great details and both have stereo sound systems. They both have the same or similar sound files (I am guessing) and are good looking models of the real thing. The only difference between the two on the outside is that the new one is based on what it looks like today and the vl one is based on the real thing back in the early years of big boy history. 

Hope this helps y’all! Have a good day. 

Now I've seen the online catalog there's one other difference from the VL BB I notice. The "First Run" version in this issue has a Challenger oil tender - as indeed was the case with the real 4014 when it first went back on the rails. The "Excursion" version has a Big Boy oil tender, which does look different in the catalog illustrations and not just because the Challenger tender has silver bearing caps on the wheels.

Only one of the models has the chalk V sign on the boiler front. Somebody should make an O scale decal of that.

P.S. I should have checked before I wrote; Circus Decals has already produced the chalk lettering in O scale as part of a bigger UP set:

https://circusdecals.ecwid.com...3985-4014-p141270579

Hancock52 posted:

Now I've seen the online catalog there's one other difference from the VL BB I notice. The "First Run" version in this issue has a Challenger oil tender - as indeed was the case with the real 4014 when it first went back on the rails. The "Excursion" version has a Big Boy oil tender, which does look different in the catalog illustrations and not just because the Challenger tender has silver bearing caps on the wheels.

Only one of the models has the chalk V sign on the boiler front. Somebody should make an O scale decal of that.

P.S. I should have checked before I wrote; Circus Decals has already produced the chalk lettering in O scale as part of a bigger UP set:

https://circusdecals.ecwid.com...3985-4014-p141270579

I have the VL #4014 Bigboy. It's a well done and accurate "as built" model of the prototype.  Could be the best model ever done by Lionel.   Not sure about the prototype in its current oil burning state but I believe it now has the larger enclosed cab similar to the #844.    If the prototype is now enclosed does the new Lionel model reflect that change?

JC642 posted:

I have the VL #4014 Bigboy. It's a well done and accurate "as built" model of the prototype.  Could be the best model ever done by Lionel.   Not sure about the prototype in its current oil burning state but I believe it now has the larger enclosed cab similar to the #844.    If the prototype is now enclosed does the new Lionel model reflect that change?

Why would the cab be larger?  All the Big Boys already had an enclosed cab:

Rusty

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