Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
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I note that the "Lionel" A-6 of 20 years ago has the correct tender and a boiler tube pilot. Sunset did one like that - it was very lightweight brass, but fairly accurate.
I'm still disappointed they didn't make the Frisco 1522, but it still turned out nicely. I can always wait for the next run.
MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
To be clear: I'm talking about the mispelled "Missouri".
Wow. That sucks... i thought you were complaining about your quality sticker was crinkled...
Super O Bob posted:Wow. That sucks... i thought you were complaining about your quality sticker was crinkled...
Yeah man, it really does. The vendor is checking their inventory so I'm hoping for an exchange. I fear they're all this way though.
MikeH posted:MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
To be clear: I'm talking about the mispelled "Missouri".
Bummer. Hopefully it is just isolated incidence but probably not. I will find out on Monday and report back.
bob2 posted:I note that the "Lionel" A-6 of 20 years ago has the correct tender and a boiler tube pilot. Sunset did one like that - it was very lightweight brass, but fairly accurate.
If your only reference is the Lionel catalog depiction you are wrong. I have the early S.P. A-6 and it was made exactly like the latest one, with a Pennsy E6 Atlantic chassis, slatted pilot and all. The Sunset Models brass A-6 was correct.
Blue Streak posted:MikeH posted:MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
To be clear: I'm talking about the mispelled "Missouri".
Bummer. Hopefully it is just isolated incidence but probably not. I will find out on Monday and report back.
Wow. Just wow.
I was thinking maybe I could shop around for one of the MoPac engines (this casting is correct for the MoPac) in a few years. But that error is just plain discouraging.
MikeH posted:Super O Bob posted:Wow. That sucks... i thought you were complaining about your quality sticker was crinkled...
Yeah man, it really does. The vendor is checking their inventory so I'm hoping for an exchange. I fear they're all this way though.
This is pathetic. Isn’t this something Lionel would / should replace like they’ve done with recent F paint botch job ?
MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
Just went and looked at the art work in the catalog and it appears to be misspelled and confirmed by looking at the pictures on RO's site. So I looked at the art work on the new 4-8-4 that I also ordered and it is the same misspelling. So I guess we can't blame the Chinese this time. That quality checked sticker is not very reassuring.
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Blue Streak posted:MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
Just went and looked at the art work in the catalog and it appears to be misspelled and confirmed by looking at the pictures on RO's site. So I looked at the art work on the new 4-8-4 that I also ordered and it is the same misspelling. So I guess we can't blame the Chinese this time.
Lionel does the catalog. They should be responsible. And I can’t read the letters on the TINY picture anyway. The blurry pic Looks like Missouri Pacific Lines like we would expect. I just expect better !!!! This is simple stuff.
I was just thinking this run was too problem free.....annnnnd here we are.
Blue Streak posted:MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
Just went and looked at the art work in the catalog and it appears to be misspelled and confirmed by looking at the pictures on RO's site. So I looked at the art work on the new 4-8-4 that I also ordered and it is the same misspelling. So I guess we can't blame the Chinese this time. That quality checked sticker is not very reassuring.
Where did this picture come from? That's the not picture in my catalog. My catalog shows #5307. I just looked at my catalog picture with a jewelers loupe and you can't really tell. In any case, it doesn't really matter and I don't blame the Chinese. Lionel is the company.
MikeH posted:Blue Streak posted:MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
Just went and looked at the art work in the catalog and it appears to be misspelled and confirmed by looking at the pictures on RO's site. So I looked at the art work on the new 4-8-4 that I also ordered and it is the same misspelling. So I guess we can't blame the Chinese this time. That quality checked sticker is not very reassuring.
Where did this picture come from? That's the not picture in my catalog. My catalog shows #5307. I just looked at my catalog picture with a jewelers loupe and you can't really tell. In any case, it doesn't really matter and I don't blame the Chinese. Lionel is the company.
Mike,
This picture is from the new 2019 Vol 2 catalog. It is the new 4-8-4 that I just ordered when Lionel agreed to put a coal tender behind it. But it is misspelled just like the Mountain. I had to go to RO's site where the Mountain pictures can be blown up nice and large and there it is "Missiouri Pacific Lines"
Joe
MikeH posted:Just received my MoPac. Lionel is a sick joke!
Lionel has become quite the gaffe machine.
Blue Streak posted:Mike,
This picture is from the new 2019 Vol 2 catalog. It is the new 4-8-4 that I just ordered when Lionel agreed to put a coal tender behind it. But it is misspelled just like the Mountain. I had to go to RO's site where the Mountain pictures can be blown up nice and large and there it is "Missiouri Pacific Lines"
Joe
I see. Thanks, Joe.
Spellcheck?
While they’re at it, ask them to fix the spacing between the words. It looks like they typed two spaces between MISSIOURI and PACIFIC, but used three or four spaces between PACIFIC and LINES. That jumped out at me before I noticed the misspelling. I’m sure new tender shells are coming - they’ll make it right - but, gosh, this has to be frustrating, especially for those of you who have to wait years between releases for certain roads like MoPac.
Rider Sandman posted:While they’re at it, ask them to fix the spacing between the words. It looks like they typed two spaces between MISSIOURI and PACIFIC, but used three or four spaces between PACIFIC and LINES. That jumped out at me before I noticed the misspelling. I’m sure new tender shells are coming - they’ll make it right - but, gosh, this has to be frustrating, especially for those of you who have to wait years between releases for certain roads like MoPac.
I noticed that and chalked it up to the extra "I" in Missouri. I wish I shared your faith by the way.
Craignor posted:Spellcheck?
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I suspect you weren't singling me out but I want to explain anyway. I am new to O Gauge. So I don't want to get lumped in as a Lionel loyalist. When the Lionel catalog came out last year, I was excited to see some midwest road names and I placed preorders for four Legacy engines. They were the first Legacy engines I purchased and sadly may be the last.
Imagine my horror over the last 12-18 months as the Lionel problems unfolded. I took delivery of two Legacy diesels earlier this year. Both had problems. Fast forward to today and I absolutely dreaded the delivery of this engine (my only steamer). It was easily the most expensive engine I ever purchased. We'll see how it plays out. But for this newbie, Lionel is now 0 for 3. Now I'm really dreading the delivery of that fourth engine! But I have been taught a valuable (and expensive) lesson about Lionel.
Pre Fairfax Harrison Southern in black.
I looked over and found two issues, tender water capacity is 1200 vs 12000 and the hole in the boiler for the whistle steam. My first engine with whistle steam, I always cut smoke off to keep the mess down. I know many like the feature, but holes in boilers?? I'll have to live with it.
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BTW box stated made in Korea.
NHVRYGray posted:Pre Fairfax Harrison Southern in black.
I looked over and found two issues, tender water capacity is 1200 vs 12000 and the hole in the boiler for the whistle steam. My first engine with whistle steam, I always cut smoke off to keep the mess down. I know many like the feature, but holes in boilers?? I'll have to live with it.
Is that a casting seam on top of the smokebox, before and after the smokestack, in the second photo?
NHVRYGray posted:BTW box stated made in Korea.
Your right. I had not noticed that. The A6 box says Korea as well.
Well... it has white walls again here... and in photos back in the day...
So remove them if you think they are wrong... but they apprear in all photos i looked... I was a frisco transplant!
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Super O Bob posted:
Well... it has white walls again here... and in photos back in the day...
So remove them if you think they are wrong... but they apprear in all photos i looked... I was a frisco transplant!
Where does 1501 reside?
TrainBub posted:Super O Bob posted:
Well... it has white walls again here... and in photos back in the day...
So remove them if you think they are wrong... but they apprear in all photos i looked... I was a frisco transplant!
Where does 1501 reside?
It is in Rolla "MISSIOURI" 
Blue Streak posted:TrainBub posted:Super O Bob posted:
Well... it has white walls again here... and in photos back in the day...
So remove them if you think they are wrong... but they apprear in all photos i looked... I was a frisco transplant!
Where does 1501 reside?
It is Rolla "MISSIOURI"
Oops. Turn on your spellcheck. 🤪
Missouri is the “show me” state, if Mississippi and Missouri merged, they could be Missiouri.
I’d like to buy an extra vowel, Pat!
Well... looks great with white walls... even this 1519 too...
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Rider Sandman posted:Craignor posted:Spellcheck?
Could be one thing... China!
Peter Araujo posted:Rider Sandman posted:Craignor posted:Spellcheck?
Could be one thing... China!
Maybe in my old age and vision, it will look like 'Missouri' on my train shelf.
I've been wanting more MP steam...
Super O Bob posted:Peter Araujo posted:Rider Sandman posted:Craignor posted:Spellcheck?
Could be one thing... China!
Maybe in my old age and vision, it will look like 'Missouri' on my train shelf.
I've been wanting more MP steam...
Well I begged MTH for YEARS for Premier MP, T&P, Frisco, and MKT steam. Total done = four/ MP T&P switcher (same run/model) , Frisco Meteor-Will Rogers (same run/model) In all these years. Nice but that’s is. Otherwise crickets .........😑So I gave up. Even with a Missouri misspelling, it’s Sooooo much more than I’ve seen from MTH. MP and Frisco in one run. Stunning. Now whens the MKT in steam ?
They've never done a Frisco or MoPac cab unit in PS3. Last MoPac E6 (PS2) was 10 years ago! I'd love to see it. I've emailed them too.
"Missiouri loves company", as the saying goes.
That silver quality sticker must go on all new releases. I'm sure there is still no QC
I think we will see more FRISCO and Missouri Roadnames from Lionel... i know i have been asking, and you guys too... so hoping we get more...
tom21pa posted:That silver quality sticker must go on all new releases. I'm sure there is still no QC
Yes, I was posting that with just a hint of irony.
