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I've decided to take my own advice and start this... Although I am primarily a fan of the New York Central and Pennsylvania Railroad, there are a few other smaller lines that I really like. One of these is the Delaware & Hudson. Much like the New Haven, I think one of the first things that drew me to the D&H was the paint scheme - there is something about the blue, gray, and yellow that is beautiful. I read in The Historical Guide to North American Railroads that the D&H upgraded their passenger service to take people to Expo 67 - the World's Fair in Montreal. As a kid, I took a train from Manhattan to Montreal to go to the fair - don't know if it was on the D&H, but I know it definitely traveled over some of their trackage. And now that I live in northeast Pennsylvania, I am in some of the D&H's latter day territory (I sware I saw a painting somewhere of a D&H PA going over the Starruca viaduct which isn't too far from my house). 

So to kick things off, here is the first D&H train I purchased. These are a pair (powered & dummy) of Lionel U36c's from around 1981 (the list of authorized service stations show 1980-81). I'm sure Jim (carsntrains) will take me to task again, but these have been packed away for years!!!

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So, let's see your D&H trains, model or real.

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Arnold D. Cribari posted:

Here is a Lionel postwar 6420 D.L.&W. lighted work caboose:

65362A03-B4B5-4FEC-BECA-A2B1BD3C9EDBDoes the D.L.&W. stand for Delaware, Lackawanna and Western, or Delaware and Western?

I often run it with my Delaware & Hudson engines.

 

Arnold;

According to my copy of The Historical Guide to North American Railroads, DL&W stood for Delaware, Lackawanna, and Western.

Hopefully there is someone on the Forum who is more up on the history aspect of the D&H than me, but, as best as I can tell, while the D&H and the DL&W covered some of the same area, but were not related, even by merger... anyone???

GVDobler posted:

Just saw an article in Classic Trains about two PAs from Santa Fe RR being painted in blue and silver war bonnet scheme and pulling passengers on the D & H. Striking paint job.

By any chance could you tell me what issue that was in??? From what I could find online, the D&H only had 4 PA's and all were ex-Santa Fe. Love the war bonnet scheme.

Alco Jim posted:

The Delaware and Hudson went under Starrucca viaduct. The Erie ran on it. The D & H abandoned this line when they purchased the former Lackawanna line from Taylor, PA to Binghamton from Conrail in 1980. 

Thanks Jim. Well, at least I got the D&H PA and the Starrucca Viaduct part right!!!

I have the Lionel D&H PA's -  believe they are numbers 18 and 19. When the weather is a bit nicer, I plan on heading up to see the viaduct... I'll have to bring the engines along and see it I can get a shot with the viaduct.

Apples55 posted:
GVDobler posted:

Just saw an article in Classic Trains about two PAs from Santa Fe RR being painted in blue and silver war bonnet scheme and pulling passengers on the D & H. Striking paint job.

By any chance could you tell me what issue that was in??? From what I could find online, the D&H only had 4 PA's and all were ex-Santa Fe. Love the war bonnet scheme.

Winter 2017

Those are the four (sorry 2 or 4)  I mentioned. The article was actually about putting a smaller HP motor in one to make an excursion date.

One of my grandfathers was a signal maintainer for the "Delay & Hesitate". He worked out of the yard between Alplaus & SchenectaIMG_0029IMG_0030IMG_0031IMG_0032day proper. His wife worked in the ALCO plant just across the Mohawk River in their business office.

I've always enjoyed the D&H and it's paint scheme; used to watch the freights enter the yard on the way into town from Mechanicsville.

Here's some shots of my Lionel U30C (which is for sale..). I also have an Atlas"O" Century series C628 in D&H livery

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RSJB18 posted:

I like them a lot. The color scheme is sharp. Running mostly northeast roads they would fit in nicely on my layout.  All of the current models are too big for 027 .

I could run a RS-3 if one came up for sale.

Not 100% sure, but I would think that the Lionel Legacy D&H RS-11 shown below would run well on 027 track. It’s not that big:

FF972F8D-A5F7-477E-A65C-A5E5FBDEE328It runs great on my O Gauge tubular track and 031 curves. It’s about a $325 to $350 engine with great sounds, smoke and pulling power.

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GVDobler posted:
Apples55 posted:
GVDobler posted:

Just saw an article in Classic Trains about two PAs from Santa Fe RR being painted in blue and silver war bonnet scheme and pulling passengers on the D & H. Striking paint job.

By any chance could you tell me what issue that was in??? From what I could find online, the D&H only had 4 PA's and all were ex-Santa Fe. Love the war bonnet scheme.

Winter 2017

Those are the four (sorry 2 or 4)  I mentioned. The article was actually about putting a smaller HP motor in one to make an excursion date.

After thought. Same issue different article shows #18 is now in private hands and is now painted in NPR livery and about 75% back to running condition. Cool.

Paul, I was really hoping you were going to take your own advice (from the Weekend Photo Fun thread) and start this D&H thread!  I was away on a business trip for a couple days and just getting a chance to catch up on the Forum. 

I grew up in northeastern PA with the D&H Sunbury (former PRR, then PC) mainline very close to my home and saw D&H freights just about every day.  I always liked their various locomotive paint schemes...the "Lightning Stripe" version being my favorite.  There's just something about that blue, yellow and gray combo!!

I'll have plenty of photos to contribute to this thread as I own a large # of D&H items.  Thanks again for starting it!

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Gaudy diesels aside, the D&H had some of the most interesting steam locos on US rails, ever, especially in the L.F. Loree days, but even later, when the Challengers and 4-8-4's showed up (yes, the D&H 4-8-4 "favored" the NYC Niagara, kind of, but was not at all the same design; it was instead a close relative of some RI and MILW 4-8-4's; the D&H Challengers were copied by the Clinchfield, before that road's ex-DRGW 4-6-6-4's showed up).

These D&H locos are seldom - ever? - modeled in 3RO, beyond a paint job or that 3rd Rail stab at the Challenger. Too bad.

They were very, ah, particular designs, to be sure, especially the big Loree 2-8-0's and experimentals, but many an odd duck has been offered in 3RO. I'd buy that 4-cylinder, high-pressure D&H 4-8-0 (Mastodon) in a flash.  

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