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Looking to see if there is interest in the following PRR passenger trains from Golden Gate Depot:

  • PRR Pennsylvania Ltd "Yellow Kid". Like GGD advertised for their Amfleet cars: we have the power, we need the train
  • PRR Tubular Train
  • PRR Trailblazer

How about a rerun of these popular items:

  • PRR congressional
  • PRR P70FAR cars

And don't forget us PRR fans would like to see some 2 and 3 Payne scale heavyweight solarium cars!

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I've always liked the "Yellow Bird" and would buy one.  This one and the Tubular Train would all be new tooling so if only one was made I vot for the "yellow Bird".

I would like some of the lesser known PRR special purpose cars like dormitory, mail, rpo, mail storage, etc.  However, I expect that sales would not cover the costs.  Perhaps MP54 and other of the series.  Multi-part dies could be made so that in addition to the MP cars, generic cars could be produces link Atlas has.

Jan

@HiramO posted:

I've been buying GGD passenger equipment for many years, have more PRR than I can use in any conceivable operating session...   I'd prefer to see Scott continue exploring other liveries.

Absolutely Agree !!! 😜😜😜                     We Need to see other roads done that haven’t been done in “O” gauge - or haven’t been done very well.

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I have often thought a model of the Keystone would be an interesting train to see built however, I think it might have very limited appeal as it was retired in 1968.  Amtrak had the cars for a while, but they never saw service for Amtrak.  It would certainly make for an eye-catching model on a layout.

For me, I'd like to see the P70Fbr done with the balloon roof.  That is the configuration I remember best.  Those cars served in service as late as 1983 on New Jersey Transit. 

I might bite for the PRR Congressional but if we're talking GGD re-runs, I'd definitely get in on Round 2 of the SAL Silver Meteor.

The Capitol Limited has been on the GGD website for awhile; hoping it gets made (especially as it shares the same Budd cars as The Chessie, so guessing those will be run at the same time and are more likely to happen than not).

What other named streamliner passenger trains would you like to see GGD build (in addition to PRR)?  I think FEC / ACL's Champion would be cool.  Someone on another thread mentioned IC's Panama Limited with its unique neon logo on the observation car.  And I have to believe a few folks would sign up for UP's City of LA / City of San Francisco consists to match their 3rd Rail E6s . . .

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@BlueFeather posted:

The Capitol Limited has been on the GGD website for awhile; hoping it gets made (especially as it shares the same Budd cars as The Chessie, so guessing those will be run at the same time and are more likely to happen than not).

The Capitol Limited will consist of 8 cars - many of which were not in The Chessie. It will have The Columbian's combine, the twin unit diner from the Chessie, the dome car as built for the C&O, the Budd 16 and 4 sleeper built for the B&O, the 10 and 6 sleepers with and w/o aluminum siding, and the observation as built for the C&O.

I have a 2 rail version of all of the cars and Scott has been to my house to take photos of them so they will be correct.

@rheil posted:

The Capitol Limited will consist of 8 cars - many of which were not in The Chessie. It will have The Columbian's combine, the twin unit diner from the Chessie, the dome car as built for the C&O, the Budd 16 and 4 sleeper built for the B&O, the 10 and 6 sleepers with and w/o aluminum siding, and the observation as built for the C&O.

I have a 2 rail version of all of the cars and Scott has been to my house to take photos of them so they will be correct.

Thanks for this.  Does "as built for the C&O" mean the car was purchased from C&O but was not part of the Chessie?  I thought that at least some of the Cap Limited domes were indeed originally part of the Chessie.

@BlueFeather posted:

Thanks for this.  Does "as built for the C&O" mean the car was purchased from C&O but was not part of the Chessie?  I thought that at least some of the Cap Limited domes were indeed originally part of the Chessie.

The Capitol's 3 dome cars (one ran on The Shenandoah so it was really only 2 on the Capitol)  were interior sleeping cars. As I recall The Chessie's domes were observations. You are correct in assuming the C&O's dome cars were not all necessarily part of The Chessie. They came to the B&O in 1951 as I recall.

@GG1 4877 posted:

I have often thought a model of the Keystone would be an interesting train to see built however, I think it might have very limited appeal as it was retired in 1968.  Amtrak had the cars for a while, but they never saw service for Amtrak.  It would certainly make for an eye-catching model on a layout.

For me, I'd like to see the P70Fbr done with the balloon roof.  That is the configuration I remember best.  Those cars served in service as late as 1983 on New Jersey Transit.

The P70FBr was the ultimate P70 not only in terms of being the last major upgrade but it turned the P70 into a very comfortable (quiet and air-conditioned), smooth-rolling ride.  I hope it would be possible to offer both roof styles to maximize the appeal.  I believe the PRSL P70FBr's only came with the clerestory style roof.

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@rheil posted:

The Capitol's 3 dome cars (one ran on The Shenandoah so it was really only 2 on the Capitol)  were interior sleeping cars. As I recall The Chessie's domes were observations. You are correct in assuming the C&O's dome cars were not all necessarily part of The Chessie. They came to the B&O in 1951 as I recall.

The C&O had only three mid train dome cars and three dome-observations and all of these were Budd cars bought for The Chessie. When The Chessie  was cancelled the dome-observations went to the Pere Marquette District where they served until 1949 when they were sold to the Rio Grande. The mid train domes were originally configured for  day cabins as The Chessie was supposed to be an all daylight train. At least one of these was reconfigured for overnight accommodations and placed in regular C&O overnight passenger trains for one summer and then withdrawn (The main draw for a dome car on the C&O was the scenery through the New River Gorge and other parts of WVa. However, the trains traversed these areas at night). Apparently they were stored until all were sold to the B&O in 12/1950. Any other dome cars on the B&O did not come from the C&O as the C&O never ordered any others.

The twin unit kitchen/diner, the 10-6 sleepers, and the flat end observation on The Capitol were all ex-C&O Pullman Standard cars. Which begs the question as long as these cars were all ex-C&O, producing a C&O passenger train would be possible with the addition of a C&O P-S coach model.

Ken

For prrhorseshoecurve...  I'm sure others have far more than I do, but this is enough for me. I like to run my trains...

6 cars KLine Spirit of St Louis (Sq end Obs, three gold stripes)

8 cars KLine Fleet of Modernism, curved Obs.

3 cars painted for other roads (Zephyr, Seaboard, Golden State)

2 baggage

1 Sq End Obs, Mountain View

2 cars, tandem diner, 4600 / 4601

3 cars P70 unconverted

1 Obs, unconverted, Federal Hall

1 car, sleeper Royal Oak

2 cars, P70 converted (wide windows)

1 car, diner

1 car, lounge sleeper, Harbor Cove

4 cars, short Congressional set

2 cars, short, MTH diner and sleeper (shadow figures)

37 cars in total. My main Lines are 150 feet long, but I rarely exceed 6 or 8 car trains. FWIW, I've ordered 1 PRR sleeper from the current GGD run just to check out the current technology

Jan

@PGentieu posted:

The P70FBr was the ultimate P70 not only in terms of being the last major upgrade but it turned the the P70 into a very comfortable (quiet and air-conditioned), smooth-rolling ride.  I hope it would be possible to offer both roof styles to maximize the appeal.  I believe the PRSL P70FBr's only came with the clerestory style roof.

All P70fbR coaches originally had the clerestory roofs.  When these roofs started to deteriorate, some were repaired, not by replacing them, but covering them with a sheetmetal arch that became known as the "balloon roof".  Note the PRSL never had these roofs.

P70fbR coaches started showing up in 1948 with ones being rebuilt as late as 1952.  I don't think the smooth-riding came along until they were upgraded to the 2D-P5 trucks in 1954.

The balloon roofs did not appear until 1960, so if you model the 50s or earlier they are not for you.

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