Hi:

I asked this on the GGD thread, but this clearly is a better venue...

I just received my GGD NH green heavyweights, they have gold lettering. Previous GGD heavyweights had white lettering.

What years did NH use gold lettering, what years white?

Cheers!

Jan

Putnam Division posted:

I cannot remember if I posted this before......this was given to me many years ago by another Forum member when he down-sized......

3E181EA2-8BF8-4DFE-B70F-C9E407AF0AF7Peter

Peter (or others):

What does the "R.R.S." stand for in the upper right corner?  That's a new one on me.

Also, I think it's been longer than 5 days so you should probably return that to the NH.  

Steven J. Serenska

Took a quick check in my postal history sources but nothing yet. Of course if was a common RR abreviation in use it wouldn't be.

A quick check of my LIRR postal history turned up this. These seemed to be commonly used for requesting payment for shipments. As you can see it wasn't filled in on this cover but perhaps an enployee "borrowed" one for his personal use.

RRS

The placement on your cover looks like applying the stamp would have covered it up, a further mystery.

RR postal history can be fascinating. Pieces of history that you know actually were on that train.

If you start to get serious check out the Mobile Post Office Society, covers the history of mail carried on RR, trolley, buses and boats. Some very complete and detailed publications about the postmarks.

Attachments

Photos (1)

Paul

The line over the Hell Gate bridge interchanging with the LIRR was handled by the New Haven. Sometimes they went all the way to the float bridges in Bay Ridge. The LIRR that was usually third rail but they had some switchers that used the overhead to handle the work also. I believe they were BB-3, small paired box cab bodies (you'd like them).

Scotie posted:

Paul

The line over the Hell Gate bridge interchanging with the LIRR was handled by the New Haven. Sometimes they went all the way to the float bridges in Bay Ridge. The LIRR that was usually third rail but they had some switchers that used the overhead to handle the work also. I believe they were BB-3, small paired box cab bodies (you'd like them).

Thanks for the history, Scotie.

And yes... would like the BB3’s...

6BFF7CC0-6C31-4616-96DA-5276E5F2467E

Paul

Techno-Peasant of the First Order

Provisionary Member - Brotherhood of the Crappy Basement Layout

 TCA 15-70689

LCCA RM-39621

LOTS RM-9326

Attachments

Photos (1)
Apples55 posted:

I’m beginning to think the New Haven had the most interesting collection of paint schemes... this Facebook shot has two good ones... the caption reads:

New Haven (NH) Alco FA's under the wires, location unknown, circa June 1959”.

EE32A1E7-D09C-433A-A720-96D27EA0DB3A

Location is New Haven. The top of the station, built in 1920, can be seen just above the Alco FA.

MELGAR

 

Apples55 posted:

I’m beginning to think the New Haven had the most interesting collection of paint schemes... this Facebook shot has two good ones... the caption reads:

New Haven (NH) Alco FA's under the wires, location unknown, circa June 1959”.

EE32A1E7-D09C-433A-A720-96D27EA0DB3A

It would appear the New Haven had a high employee turnover rate among  paint shop foremen!!

jackson, CEO, Not-So-Great Eastern RR, aka The Never Done Line

          Division of the Southern Adirondack Railway Cartel

 

 

MELGAR posted:

Brian,

That has to be your best post ever!

MELGAR

@briansilvermustang;

Have to agree with MELGAR - that is an encyclopedic collection... and although he may not have them in those exact paint schemes, I’ll bet MELGAR probably has an example of almost all those engines   

Paul

Techno-Peasant of the First Order

Provisionary Member - Brotherhood of the Crappy Basement Layout

 TCA 15-70689

LCCA RM-39621

LOTS RM-9326

Page 22 of this thread and it just gets better and better. Those of us who are captivated by the legend, lore and remarkable panoply of motive power of the NH owe a tremendous thanks to Briansilvermustang and Melgar for providing us with these images and context. I certainly hope they both turn their spotlight on the Maybrook Division and the heavy steam that dominated that route in its heyday. And oh yeah, MTH, please a PS3 I-5!

 

 

Paul, Thanks for the start. The Maybrook division ran from Cedar Hill yard across Connecticut, Duchess County and the Hudson River at Poughkeepsie to interchange freight traffic with the Delaware and Hudson amongst others. During its height it featured big 8 and 10 coupled brutes to move the tonnage in and out of lower New England.

Apples55 posted:

”Winsted, Conn. around 1910 with what looks like a 4-4-0, a baggage car, a combine, and a coach.

Winsted was the end of the line for the Naugatuck RR and the old Central New England crossed through town on its way from Hartford to Canaan and eventually Maybrook, NY”.

July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.

I believe this picture shows a train and station of the Naugatuck Railroad in Winsted.

At the time of this picture, the Central New England Railroad ran through northern Connecticut (Winsted), entered New York State at Millerton, crossed the Hudson River on the Poughkeepsie bridge (built in 1888) and then went through Maybrook, NY. It provided a connection from New England to the west. The Central New England was merged into the New Haven in 1927. The Maybrook Line to which Tom refers ran through southern Connecticut from Cedar Hill Yard (2 miles east of the station in New Haven) to Naugatuck (now Devon) Junction, through Danbury, to the Poughkeepsie Bridge and Maybrook. This was the modern New Haven's freight route into New York State which had heavy steam engines (2-10-2 Santa Fe types) and later multiple unit diesels.

MELGAR

Apples55 posted:
”Brand new NH 4-6-4 Class I-5 #1400, at Westerly, R.I. in March 1937 .... J. W. Swanberg Collection”.
July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo

Weaver also made a brass model of New Haven I-5 #1403.

MELGAR

MELGAR_NEW_HAVEN_LOCOMOTIVES_070B_I5_1403

Attachments

Photos (1)

Guys...I have had to close this thread because we have been contacted by a legal firm informing us that quite a few photographs in this thread (and some others on the forum) are copyrighted.  Contrary to a firm that contacted us by certified mail a few months ago, this firm is giving an opportunity to delete the photos that are violating copyright....they have even provided the evidence.  The firm that contacted us earlier, did not do that and demanded lots of money which caused OGR to have our legal department get involved.  So...this thread is locked and now it is going to be up to you to go to your posts in the next few days and delete photos that you have copied from online sources....you must assume that all of those are copyrighted even if they do not have the watermarks.  If you don't take the time to do this, OGR will have to delete the entire thread as we don't have the resources to devote hours and hours to editing and correcting this problem.  As a reminder, our TOS warns against using copyrighted photos...we do not condone it.  If you want to start a thread about the New Haven and use non-copyrighted photos of real trains, then do so in the real trains forum.  Model New Haven trains are appropriate in this forum....this is also part of our TOS....use the correct categories for your postings.  Sorry guys and gals but OGR can not protect you from copyright legal actions which at least one of our forum members (an ex-member now) is going through...and it is going to cost thousands...so be very careful....!!

Alan Arnold
CEO/Publisher
O Gauge Railroading magazine
adman@ogaugerr.com
800-980-OGRR (6477)

UPDATE:  Well, it seems that the forum software of which we have limited control, does not allow individuals to delete pictures or posts when it is closed.  If I leave it open, then there will be some folks that feel compelled to post their objections to all of this without regard to the real facts of the situation.  If we close the thread, then the entire topic will get deleted for the reasons stated above.  Since we have not been required at this point to delete the thread, I am going to take a chance and re-open it trusting that you all will continue to contribute but will go back in the next few days and make sure you have not posted copyrighted photos.  Lets see what happens....  Please be respectful....

Alan Arnold
CEO/Publisher
O Gauge Railroading magazine
adman@ogaugerr.com
800-980-OGRR (6477)

Hello Everyone:

I just went back and deleted any photos that I posted in this thread where I had a doubt of their origin.  In all cases where I did this, I added this notation:

[Sorry; image removed to avoid potential copyright issues.  Contact me offline if you'd like a private copy.]

As the note says, if any of you would like a private copy of the original image, please contact me offline. 

If the photos remain on  a post I made, it's because I own the original slide, print, or NH brochure/poster from which the image was taken/scanned.

Steven J. Serenska

 

         I too have been going back and deleting photos, a lot of nice ones I ran across online

looking for info on things...  how do you know what photos that you can use that you run

across that do not have a copyright on them...        like you said Steven,

"Sad that this sort of thing has to happen"      as I thought we were all just sharing photos

and information on a great hobby we all like here...  some of which many people would never

see if not shared here,  not like we are selling them to make a profit off of them...

                         well, back to deleting photos, wish I knew

          which ones were safe to leave on here...   have a great day everyone !!

 

 

 

Attachments

Photos (1)

Alan,  I made a living for thirty years standing behind a  camera and on a couple of occasions had to enforce my copyright.  If the prime functional of this forum is educational it seems most of these alleged infringements would fall under Fair Use. Not to mention that the copyright on most of these old photos has expired. On many the only copyright material is for instance "NHRHTA.ORG" where the copyright on the photo itself likely expired years ago. A quick trip to photoshop will remove that from the photo.          j

JohnActon posted:

Alan,  I made a living for thirty years standing behind a  camera and on a couple of occasions had to enforce my copyright.  If the prime functional of this forum is educational it seems most of these alleged infringements would fall under Fair Use. Not to mention that the copyright on most of these old photos has expired. On many the only copyright material is for instance "NHRHTA.ORG" where the copyright on the photo itself likely expired years ago. A quick trip to photoshop will remove that from the photo.          j

John....any site that has paid advertising on it is not considered an educational site...this is from copyright law.  PLEASE...instead of having a discussion on this here in this thread, just do some research.  If you don't believe me, then call up your local attorney and have him explain it to you....Thanks!

Alan Arnold
CEO/Publisher
O Gauge Railroading magazine
adman@ogaugerr.com
800-980-OGRR (6477)

Alan,

I do not copy or download any photographs from the internet. My posts on this thread included only photographs that I have taken with nothing copied from elsewhere on the internet. However, some of my replies had included photos that others had previously downloaded and posted onto this thread. I went through all my posts on this thread and deleted any photographs that I had copied as part of my replies. I left notations where the photographs had been removed.

MELGAR

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...26#94347277636357626

MELGAR posted:
I went through all my posts on this thread and deleted any photographs that I had copied as part of my replies. I left notations where the photographs had been removed.

Missed one.

MELGAR posted:

GRJ,

Not sure if you're serious or kidding. I see only a photo that I took at the link you gave.

MELGAR

Hey Melgar:

I think GRJ was simultaneously kidding and not kidding.  Kidding because he got to say "You missed one!" after all your hard work and not kidding because it does look like you missed one.  At this link:

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...26#94347277636357626

There's the awesome photo of the ”Brand new NH 4-6-4 Class I-5 #1400, at Westerly, R.I. in March 1937 .... J. W. Swanberg Collection”.

I was going to comment on this photo the other day; It's interesting that the photo of the model you posted shows the older NYNH&H logo on the tender whereas the image in the photo shows "NEW HAVEN" in block letters.  Such an attractive loco.

Steven J. Serenska

 UPDATE: It looks like you went back and removed the image while I was typing this reply...

"Any New Haven Fans" has been an interesting and educational thread that has been running for more than two years and 800 posts. As a New Haven fan, historian and model railroader, I would like to see it continue. As such, here is my next photograph, taken on my layout this evening.

MELGAR

MELGAR_2019_0730_101_NHRR_STEAM_DIESEL

 

 

Attachments

Photos (1)
MELGAR posted:

"Any New Haven Fans" has been an interesting and educational thread that has been running for more than two years and 800 posts. As a New Haven fan, historian and model railroader, I would like to see it continue. As such, here is my next photograph, taken on my layout this evening.

MELGAR

MELGAR_2019_0730_101_NHRR_STEAM_DIESEL

 

 

Now that photo is gorgeous, and would look great on the cover of OGR Magazine, IMO. Arnold

In my little world, I leave this troubled world behind.

New Haven Alco PA #0771 (model by Sunset/3rd Rail) - Osgood Bradley American Flyer passenger car #8204 (21-inch model by Weaver) - 60 foot passenger car #6843 (model by Atlas O) crossing 144-foot (36-inch) truss bridge built from kit - on my 12'-by-8' layout.

MELGAR

MELGAR_NHRR_PA1_0771_17

Attachments

Photos (1)

Add Reply

Post
OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
330-757-3020

www.ogaugerr.com
×
×
×
×
×