any New Haven fans ....

My father took the NYNH&H from New Rochelle to Grand Central every weekday from 1930 to 1944. They would turn the seat around and play bridge every day.

Danr posted:

Paul, thanks for the picture of the car interior.  Nice work on your layout.  I have that same Lifesaver sign.  I drove past the Lifesaver building a number of times.

I found some pictures of it when it was the Lifesaver building and at least at some point it had the "giant" tubes of lifesavers on the lawn in front of the building and wrapping around it. That's why I decided to put my sign on the ground in some bushes. I don't recall if the tubes on the ground level were illuminated or not but I decided to put the sign at ground level.

eddie g posted:

My father took the NYNH&H from New Rochelle to Grand Central every weekday from 1930 to 1944. They would turn the seat around and play bridge every day.

My father took New Haven/Metro North to GCT every day from Stamford Station (and sometimes the Springdale Spur) from the early 70's through the late 80's. His company moved out of NYC and on to Long Island in the late 80's which meant he had to drive it instead. 

Here is a picture of an Osgood-Bradley car with the interior painted green.  It looked darker on the bench but looks lighter under the LED's in the car.  Does this look like the color they were or should it be darker?

I think the color was much darker. Like a forest green or something. Again, just my memory which could be inaccurate. They also could have started that color and then after 50 years of smoke and whatever wore them down to a much darker green.

Danr posted:

Here is a picture of an Osgood-Bradley car with the interior painted green.  It looked darker on the bench but looks lighter under the LED's in the car.  Does this look like the color they were or should it be darker?

Danr posted:

Here is a picture of an Osgood-Bradley car with the interior painted green.  It looked darker on the bench but looks lighter under the LED's in the car.  Does this look like the color they were or should it be darker?

Dan,

Volume 32 Issue 3 of "Shoreliner," the magazine of the New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association (nhrhta.org), has an article about the Osgood Bradley lightweight passenger cars. As built during the 1930s, the article states that "the seats were upholstered in a dark blue, checkered pattern, mohair plush." Color and black/white photographs in the article also show a dark color. During the 1950s, there was a car refurbishment program about which the article says "the coach seats .... are re-dyed a deep blue." A black/white photograph confirms the dark color. Having said that, the Weaver Models O scale New Haven Railroad American Flyer cars (with Hunter Green exteriors) have light grey interiors.

MELGAR

Deep blue    Fortunately, these things are held together with about 20 screws and the entire interior comes out for painting.  I have two of these cars,  The second one is apart but I haven't done anything yet.  Not sure that I have a deep blue in stock.  I'll post a picture after the next try.

Thanks

Danr posted:

Deep blue    Fortunately, these things are held together with about 20 screws and the entire interior comes out for painting.  I have two of these cars,  The second one is apart but I haven't done anything yet.  Not sure that I have a deep blue in stock.  I'll post a picture after the next try.

If you go to the website of the historical association (nhrhta.org) and click on "back in stock," you can scroll through a list of "Shoreliners" that are still available for purchase, including the one with the relevant article. I think it would be useful for you.

MELGAR

Danr posted:

Deep blue    Fortunately, these things are held together with about 20 screws and the entire interior comes out for painting.  I have two of these cars,  The second one is apart but I haven't done anything yet.  Not sure that I have a deep blue in stock.  I'll post a picture after the next try.

Thanks

Sorry if I led you astray. At least you're going from light green to dark blue which is probably easier than the other way around!

No, still a Milwaukee Road fan. Don

This picture, taken in 2016, shows the bridge on which the tracks of the New Haven (Metro-North) Railroad cross above US Route 1 in Port Chester, New York. The Life Savers building is visible at rear.

MELGAR

I lived in Port Chester in the late 90's a few blocks from there. Seemed like pretty often a truck would get stuck under that bridge.

My K-Line Jet converted to two-rail:

Unlike the prototype, this one has all axles powered:

I also have three K-Line 21" NH passenger cars that have been two-railed.

Some of my favorite New Haven locomotives. I commend MTH for having made such outstanding models.

EP3 353

EP5 371

EP5 371 and NYC S2 3207 (The NYC S2 was made by Lionel.)

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Some of my favorite New Haven locomotives. I commend MTH for having made such outstanding models.

EP3 353

MELGAR

Beautiful engines, MELGAR. Now for one of my classic dumb questions... do you know what the purpose of the “sun porch” on the front of the engine is???

Thanks.

Apples55 posted:

MELGAR posted:

Some of my favorite New Haven locomotives. I commend MTH for having made such outstanding models.

EP3 353

MELGAR

Beautiful engines, MELGAR. Now for one of my classic dumb questions... do you know what the purpose of the “sun porch” on the front of the engine is???

This answer is somewhat conjectural on my part...

The locomotive length was determined by the need for six axles to mount the motors and produce the tractive force, plus the front and rear two-axle trucks to assist in steering and tracking. The box cab was shorter because a shorter length was sufficient to enclose the necessary machinery, transformers and cabs. The porches were structural members mounted to the front and rear trucks and carried tracking forces into the locomotive frame (and possibly into the six-axle trucks) while also supporting some of the engine weight.

MELGAR

MELGAR, that boxcab is beautiful. 

Added a new NH sign from Miller Engineering to the layout. Still need to bury a ton of wires but I love this sign. I don't think it's on the current site but I got it from a dealer. 

Brian,

Thanks for posting. I'm out of New Haven images right now. Will have to buy some new New Haven models.

MELGAR

I love the colors of the New haven, I have a few NH cars and engines. 

The photo your seeing below  in the link,  was that a NH line into the city of New York?

The sunset is beautiful, that is proof there is a God, He even made NYC look good. 

I tried to copy and paste it  but nothing let me use the photo,  So here is a link.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/658631/

"Brand new fan, as soon as my custom painted Box Cab comes in.  Thanks to Peter Carbrey, OGR Forum Member.

My first New Haven engine.

Chris Sheldon"

Chris, I was wondering whether this boxcab is a "fantasy" piece or whether it is based on a prototype?  Either way, it is a beauty!

Is this a K-Line-by-Lionel-era boxcab repainted?  Is Peter Carbrey is your designer, or custom painter, or both?  I may want to order one, myself!  Nice job!

David

It was loosely based on CNJ #1000, a GE - Ingersol Rand - Alco diesel electric switcher built in 1925.

Running F3 today

Custom New Haven Station made exclusively for one of TW TrainWorx Traintastic Layout Customers!

Happy Tracks!
TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC USA
(214) 634-2965
www.blog.traindame.com 

Traindame posted:

Custom New Haven Station made exclusively for one of TW TrainWorx Traintastic Layout Customers!

Happy Tracks!
TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC USA
(214) 634-2965
www.blog.traindame.com 

Beautiful piece of work, Dorcie. Love how compact yet detailed it is.

Traindame posted:

If TW TrainWorx offers the New Haven control tower model as a kit, I am an immediate buyer of two...

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Traindame posted:

If TW TrainWorx offers the New Haven control tower model as a kit, I am an immediate buyer of two...

MELGAR

Stay tuned

Apples55 posted:

Traindame posted:

Custom New Haven Station made exclusively for one of TW TrainWorx Traintastic Layout Customers!

Happy Tracks!
TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC USA
(214) 634-2965
www.blog.traindame.com 

Beautiful piece of work, Dorcie. Love how compact yet detailed it is.

Thank you Paul!

Brian,

Thanks for posting on “Any New Haven Fans.”

New Haven #649 is an EMD SW1200 and New Haven #531 is an ALCO RS3. Both models by Atlas O.

MELGAR

          very nice MELGAR,    great looking engines !

check these out.....

                                      NICE !!!   that is really cool

I look foward to every new post to this thread. Especially Melgar's informative narrative and historical perspective. But there was another portion of the NH that hasn't been explored. That being the Cedar hill to Maybrook segment with its heavy steam roster and long freight drags through Connecticut over the Poughkeepsie bridge spanning the Hudson River to the interchange yard at Maybrook. And to continue my constant plea, please we need an RK Imperial I-5!The interest in this thread is proof enough that it would sell out.

Tom McGriel posted:

I look forward to every new post to this thread. Especially Melgar's informative narrative and historical perspective. But there was another portion of the NH that hasn't been explored. That being the Cedar hill to Maybrook segment with its heavy steam roster and long freight drags through Connecticut over the Poughkeepsie bridge spanning the Hudson River to the interchange yard at Maybrook. And to continue my constant plea, please we need an RK Imperial I-5!The interest in this thread is proof enough that it would sell out.

Thanks Tom. I appreciate your comment. But it's usually up to Brian to revive the thread after it's been quiet for a few days. Then I reply! As for the Maybrook Line, since it was freight only, I guess it is considered to have been much less glamorous than New Haven's main line with its famous passenger trains, electric and steam locomotives, and catenary between New Haven and New York City. They did run some impressive engines on the Maybrook Line including Santa Fe types (2-10-2) and later ALCO FAs. It seems to me that there is little modeling of the Maybrook Line among New Haven fans. A model of the Poughkeepsie bridge would be spectacular but no one has accepted that challenge as far as I know. And, although I have a Weaver I-5 Hudson, I would certainly be a buyer of an MTH Premier, Sunset/3rd Rail or Lionel model.

MELGAR

I know you're right Melgar, but a glimpse at the impressive motive power there would fill out the full story of the NYNH&H at its height. Some of those brute steamers were awe inspiring.

Someone on another board pointed me to this - https://collections.ctdigitala...ject/20002:860065486 which is an image of a right of way map of Stamford yard in 1915. Shows a turntable there. Who knew?? There are a bunch of other maps of many areas in Connecticut for those that are interested.

Traindame posted:

Custom New Haven Station made exclusively for one of TW TrainWorx Traintastic Layout Customers!

Happy Tracks!
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TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC USA
(214) 634-2965
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 Please offer the station as a kit, too!

Peter

Putnam Division posted:

Traindame posted:

Custom New Haven Station made exclusively for one of TW TrainWorx Traintastic Layout Customers!

Happy Tracks!
TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC USA
(214) 634-2965
www.blog.traindame.com 

 Please offer the station as a kit, too!

Peter

Absolutely beautiful station - it really wouldn't be that hard to duplicate especially if most of the windows were commercially available. Otherwise not too hard just time consuming to make all those windows from scratch. What's especially nice about this building is that it could fit on most model railroads.

Seventy-five NE-6 steel cabooses were delivered to the New Haven Railroad between November 1947 and August 1948. The pictured New Haven NE-6 caboose model was made by Atlas O in several runs between 2003 and 2015. The New Haven never had any extended vision cabooses which therefore are referred to by New Haven enthusiasts as “Non Haven.”

MELGAR

Apples55 posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

Brian;

That is an interesting vehicle. Do you have any idea what exactly it is???

Mack Rail Bus

Jim

Thanks Brian & Jim. When I saw the first pic, it reminded me of some of the trolley buses that ran in Brooklyn back in the day, but there was no pantograph or pole. Thanks for the pics and history.

Hello Hew Haven fans.  I’ve lived in CT all my life and in my youth not too far from the NH main line.  Spent a lot of time sitting in a trackside honey suckle tree watching trains go bye.

In any case, I received my Atlas O NH Bradley Pullman’s the other day.  Do any other manufactures make matching cars like baggage, RPO, dining or observation?

shorling posted:

Hello Hew Haven fans.  I’ve lived in CT all my life and in my youth not too far from the NH main line.  Spent a lot of time sitting in a trackside honey suckle tree watching trains go bye.

In any case, I received my Atlas O NH Bradley Pullman’s the other day.  Do any other manufactures make matching cars like baggage, RPO, dining or observation?

golden gate has matching baggage and postal cars on preorder.

mikeg

shorling posted:

Hello Hew Haven fans.  I’ve lived in CT all my life and in my youth not too far from the NH main line.  Spent a lot of time sitting in a trackside honey suckle tree watching trains go bye.

In any case, I received my Atlas O NH Bradley Pullman’s the other day.  Do any other manufactures make matching cars like baggage, RPO, dining or observation?

According to the New Haven Railroad’s historical society, except for grill cars, there were no matching dining cars, RPOs, or observations for the original Osgood-Bradley lightweights. (The post-World War II corrugated-side lightweights are another story).  That didn’t stop AC Gilbert from “imagineering” some for their S gauge line.

A NH Steamer outside Providence, RI, date and further details unknown.  

[Sorry; image removed to avoid potential copyright issues.  Contact me offline if you'd like a private copy.]

My favorite part is the inadvertent shadow of the photographer at the bottom center.  He looks like a silhouette of David Byrne wearing "The Big Suit" in the movie "Stop Making Sense".

Steven J. Serenska

I can’t help but wonder what sort of camera the photographer was using to take the photo. I’m guessing that it was a large-format Speed Graphlex, a camera that allowed for big negatives but was nowhere so quick for reloading for the next photo as smaller format Rolleiflexes or 35 mm cameras.

I recently photographed New Haven 40-foot steel boxcar 33401 at the Old Colony & Fall River Railroad Museum in Fall River, Massachusetts. The 33401 is one of 500 boxcars (numbered from 33000 to 33499) built for the New Haven Railroad in late 1945 by Pullman-Standard. The closest thing I have as a model is boxcar 33406 made by MTH around 2015. This model was offered as part of a six-car set, so the set may also have included 33401. The model is lettered with a build-date (for the full-size car) of November 1945.

MELGAR

Any New Haven fans have the model memories catenary? I'd love to use it but it's pretty expensive. http://www.modelmemories.com/oprods.htm 

Recent Sunset/3rd Rail model of New Haven Alco PA1 0771 in Hunter Green.

MELGAR

Thanks Brian. The interior is well done, too.

MELGAR

          that is cool !!

Gotta share my new RS-3! It's a Railking model released last year, I think. Sounds as good as it looks. This is my favorite scheme, and not one that's modeled as often as those with the orange hoods. Also less common on the prototype, it seems? I'm guessing Melgar could tell us more...

Just got a copy of "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David Sweetland and Stephen Horsley. Apparently this box car #45097 was a State of Maine car that had been repainted in 1968. Do you think if I scratch the model I'll find State of Maine underneath?

New Haven boxcars.

MELGAR

          very NICE Paul !!!

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 

New Haven RDC 21 is a Sunset/3rd Rail model. New Haven 6843 is an Atlas O Trainman model of a 60-foot car. The second car in Brian's post is an Osgood-Bradley lightweight (American Flyer) car.

MELGAR

Apples55 posted:

This pic popped up on my Facebook feed today... while it primarily concerns the observation car (which apparently serves as a bar in Ohio), it was part of a train including some of the Osgood-Bradley Pullmans. The post had the following info...

Here's New Haven Observation Car "Watch Hill", (stainless steel and red) doing time as a parlor car for Penn Central RR at Mamaroneck, New York. Ca. 1972. Photo by George Hamlin. This car (NH 425) reportedly still exists, somewhere near Cleveland, Ohio. This is now Metro-North's New Haven Line.

The boat-tailed observation car on my layout is the Bunker Hill, an older MTH Premier model which is nice but not very accurate. The New Haven's "Hill-series" cars included the Bunker Hill and the Watch Hill. These stainless steel cars were built for the New Haven by Pullman-Standard in 1949 and ran between New York and Boston on The Merchants Limited.

MELGAR

I've seen a few pictures where they had installed the diaphragms on the end of the boat tailed cars which really ruined the look. Glad they aren't on the model that I have even if the prototypes had them.

Here's the diaphragm attached to the rear.

Decided to drag out my S HiRail New Haven's for a fresh photo:

Rusty

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 went into service in 1941. During WW2 these engines pulled passenger trains during the day and freight trains at night. Model made by MTH with PS-2 probably 15 years ago.

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 went into service in 1941. During WW2 these engines pulled passenger trains during the day and freight trains at night. Model made by MTH with PS-2 probably 15 years ago.

MELGAR

And I have had the good fortune of seeing Melgar's magnificent New Haven model trains in person.

Arnold

MELGAR posted:

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 went into service in 1941. During WW2 these engines pulled passenger trains during the day and freight trains at night. Model made by MTH with PS-2 probably 15 years ago.

MELGAR

I was first attracted to the New Haven by the colorful McGinnis paint scheme, but this green and yellow is fast growing on me. Also like that ALCO.

Apples55 posted:

MELGAR posted:

New Haven ALCO DL-109 #0719 went into service in 1941. During WW2 these engines pulled passenger trains during the day and freight trains at night. Model made by MTH with PS-2 probably 15 years ago.

MELGAR

I was first attracted to the New Haven by the colorful McGinnis paint scheme, but this green and yellow is fast growing on me. Also like that ALCO.

I'm just the opposite--this is the scheme that got me hooked, and now I'm slowly reaching an accommodation with the McGinnis scheme...

Jeff C

briansilvermustang posted:

 

The first ALCO PA-1s on the New Haven were designated DER-3a (diesel-electric road) and went into service in 1948. The initial livery was orange and green with narrow silver stripes. It was quickly replaced by a return to the traditional green and gold scheme and then the McGinnis scheme in 1955. These engines had 2,000 horsepower.

briansilvermustang posted:

 

The New Haven never had this paint scheme on an F-3 diesel, nor did it ever have any F-3 diesels. The paint scheme and "New Haven" model were a concoction by (I believe) Lionel. The only F-series diesels the New Haven ever had were the dual-mode FL-9s which could run as a diesel-electric or as a straight electric from the 600-volt DC third-rail power between Woodlawn, NY (New York Central milepost 12) and Grand Central Terminal. They had a two-axle lead truck and a three-axle trailing truck (see below). Sunset/3rd Rail produced this model a few years ago.

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

The New Haven never had this paint scheme on an F-3 diesel, nor did it ever have any F-3 diesels. The paint scheme and "New Haven" model were a concoction by (I believe) Lionel. 

MELGAR

Does anyone have a 1983 Williams F7 AA New Haven.  If so would you post a picture.  Thanks

McGuiness gets my vote. It's my #1 favorite livery.

Arnold D. Cribari posted:

McGuiness gets my vote. It's my #1 favorite livery.

I agree!

Never liked the McGinnis paint scheme - preferred the yellow on green and the "Brooks Brother's" silver stripes.

Check it out... Traingineers are starting to model the tallest landmark in New Haven: Soldiers and Sailors monument!

Can you make out the teeny tiny stars?

Happy Tracks!

TrainDame aka Dorcie Farkash
TW TrainWorx
Dallas, TX | Concord, NC | USA
(214) 634-2965
www.blog.traindame.com

The new Atlas O Osgood Bradley coaches needed a little interior renovation. I went for a blue interior and rearranged some seating, in addition to a adding few figures. These cars aren't too difficult to remove the shells from if you don't mind taking about 20 screws out, and popping out the vestibules. There is a plug between the shell and the body/interior so its very easy to separate the two components to add passengers. I know there are a lot of things that aren't prototypical in the pictures below, but its all in the fun of the hobby! 

Finally got home and had a chance to try out my new Atlas O Osgood Bradley coaches. They look pretty smart behind a 3rd Rail New Haven PA. Now I just need for MELGAR to chime in with a historically appropriate name for my consist!!!

I do have two questions... first, does anyone know if it is possible to tone down the intensity of the 3rd Rail headlight (I am using TMCC/Legacy)??? Second, one of the coaches out of the box causes a short. I have been dealing with some family health care issues for the last few months, so I haven’t been as attentive to forum topics as I should be, but I vaguely remember someone else having a similar issue - if anyone has any suggestions on correcting this problem, they would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

biscuitag97 posted:

The new Atlas O Osgood Bradley coaches needed a little interior renovation. I went for a blue interior and rearranged some seating, in addition to a adding few figures. These cars aren't too difficult to remove the shells from if you don't mind taking about 20 screws out, and popping out the vestibules. There is a plug between the shell and the body/interior so its very easy to separate the two components to add passengers. I know there are a lot of things that aren't prototypical in the pictures below, but its all in the fun of the hobby! 

biscuitag97,

Nice job on the New Haven Osgood-Bradley coaches. I have a set of the original ones which were made by Weaver. But - please - no more New Haven passenger cars behind New York Central locomotives... I doubt that it ever happened...

Apples55 posted:

Finally got home and had a chance to try out my new Atlas O Osgood Bradley coaches. They look pretty smart behind a 3rd Rail New Haven PA. Now I just need for MELGAR to chime in with a historically appropriate name for my consist!!!

Apples55,

I hope the healthcare issues are resolved. How about the Merchants Limited - or maybe The Knickerbocker - or maybe The Owl... Nice layout, too!

MELGAR

I run my "down-sized" Osgood Bradley coaches on the "Merchants Ltd" behind a R-K Alco PA.

MELGAR posted;

Apples55,

I hope the healthcare issues are resolved. How about the Merchants Limited - or maybe The Knickerbocker - or maybe The Owl... Nice layout, too!

MELGAR

Thanks MELGAR... the health issues were my having a knee replacement in early May and my brother having one in late August - everything is coming along fine.

Looks like I’ll go with the Merchants Limited... from what I could find online, the Merchants was an all parlor car train which sort of matches the Bradley cars I have (couldn’t find anything on the Knickerbocker and the Owl appears to have been an overnight with sleepers). But in doing a little research on the trains you mentioned, I found one other called the Hell Gate Express which went over the said bridge. As I have a modern era Lionel version which I want to find a place for on the layout, the name interests me - do you know anything about that train???

Thanks.

Paul,

When I get home on Monday, I will post a list of the New Haven named trains for you.

MELGAR

MELGAR -- Did the NH ever run any of their O-B Grill cars on the "Merchant's Ltd.? I don't believe either Weaver nor Atlas have done one, but i did from a photo.

https://www.google.com/search?...mgrc=qjrZuNM25ERF8M:

https://www.google.com/search?...mgrc=YufWbl52LUjGtM:

MELGAR posted:

Paul,

When I get home on Monday, I will post a list of the New Haven named trains for you.

MELGAR

Thank you Sir!!!

Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.

The Five Hour Express (1894 with Parlor Cars, Buffet Smoking Car, New York/Boston)

Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.

Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42^nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander

Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited

Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)

The following trains ran along the 62-mile route from New Haven to Hartford and Springfield Massachusetts:

Bankers - Nathan Hale - Connecticut Yankee - Montrealer - Washingtonian

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.

The Five Hour Express (1894 with Parlor Cars, Buffet Smoking Car, New York/Boston)

Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.

Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42^nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander

Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited

Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)

The following trains ran along the 62-mile route from New Haven to Hartford and Springfield Massachusetts:

Bankers - Nathan Hale - Connecticut Yankee - Montrealer - Washingtonian

MELGAR

MELGAR:

I have been looking forward to this list.  Is it intended to be comprehensive?

If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.

Thanks for your list, regardless.  I haven't been on here in a while but these are all great posts.

Steven J. Serenska

*Short-lived lightweight train

** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.

 P.S. The forum software keeps altering my link.  if this make sense to you, please change the "[" in the URL to be "(" and the link will work.  For some reason Hoopla is not saving it as I'm entering it "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Williams_(train)"

MELGAR posted:

Note: This is a list of New Haven Railroad named passenger trains. It mostly gives only the train names and not the types of cars in the consists or other details. That information is too lengthy to be presented here. If you’re interested in further information on a particular train, it can be found in the book “New Haven Passenger Trains,” by Peter E. Lynch.

Most of the following trains ran between New York and Boston on the Shore Line. The most important had parlor cars, dining or grill cars, and coaches. Some trains also ran to Philadelphia and Washington, DC in conjunction with the PRR and also had PRR cars in the consist.

Day Express - Knickerbocker - Bay State - Afternoon Express - Shore Line Express - Merchants’ Limited - Yankee Clipper - Gilt Edge - Sundown - Pershing Square - Mayflower - Murray Hill - Bostonian - 42^nd Street - Puritan - New Yorker - Commander

Colonial - Federal - Senator - Patriot - Air Line Limited - Advance Merchants’ Limited

Owl - Narragansett - Night Express (all coaches) - Night Hawk (sleepers)

MELGAR

Thanks so much MELGAR. Just ordered the book. Definitely going to go with a NYC - Boston train... got to find a spot for my small Grand Central and Hellgate Bridge.

Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound - a couple more additions to the New Haven picture gallery

Bing

Ives

New Marx - Prototype

Fandor

Serenska posted:

MELGAR:

I have been looking forward to this list.  Is it intended to be comprehensive?

If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.

** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.

Steve,

My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine  but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.

MELGAR

MELGAR posted:

Serenska posted:

MELGAR:

I have been looking forward to this list.  Is it intended to be comprehensive?

If yes, I'm wondering where the "Roger Williams*" and the "Narragansett Special**" might be.

** The "Narragansett Special ran from GCT to Narragansett Park to bring riders/bettors to see a horse race of the same name.

Steve,

My list was not intended to be absolutely comprehensive but I inadvertently omitted the 1950s era lightweight trains Roger Williams, Dan'l Webster and John Quincy Adams. Lynch mentions some other named trains which ran to Maine, including the Portland Night Express and the State of Maine  but makes no mention of the Narragansett Special that I can find. I hesitate to guarantee that there weren't others I have not included.

MELGAR

MELGAR:

Thanks for clarifying.

I only know about the Narragansett Special because 1-2 years ago, someone on eBay offered a marketing placard from 1938 for the train.  It was a great art deco piece and would have looked fantastic framed in the train room.  Unfortunately, the seller's buy-it-now asking price was a bit too high for me.  Someone else did purchase it, however.

I wish I had copied the photos of it.  The ad copy on the poster was just fantastic.  It extolled the air conditioning in the coaches and the presence of a bar car on the train in both directions.  There were words to the effect that patronizing the bar car would pump up a bettor's enthusiasm on the ride up and console him for his losses on the way home.

I still kick myself for being such a cheap-o and not buying it.

Steven J. Serenska

A little more research reveals that the train was called the "'Gansett Special" ... which I sort of remembered from the placard I didn't purchase, but I wasn't 100% sure.  Here is more info from the  New Haven Railroad Historical and Technical Association website:

• http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0299.htm, especially:
  
  
• The Narragansett park trains were covered in Volume 22, Issue 2 1991 of "The Shoreliner" (the NHRHTA magazine)
  
  
• Apparently, there was also an unrelated overnight train named "The Narragansett": http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0203.htm

SJS

MODELSTRAINSPARTS,

Not sure of the answer to your question but nice work on the Osgood Bradley grill car model.

MELGAR

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The FL-9s had been parked in the Metro-North (formerly New Haven Railroad) Lamberton Street Yard in New Haven. I occasionally walked along Cedar street and could see the FL-9s at the far side of the yard. I think there may be one or two still there. Hope they're being preserved.

MELGAR

briansilvermustang posted:

 

July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.

I'm waiting for MTH to offer its GE 44 Tonner in the earlier orange hood/black (?) cab New Haven paint scheme - so I can spend some more money....

MELGAR

briansilvermustang posted:

July 30, 2019 MELGAR removed photo.

The three models are New Haven Railroad C-Liner #793 by MTH, ALCO PA #0771 by Sunset/3^rd Rail, and ALCO DL-109 #0719 by MTH. To me, it was an impressive railroad.

MELGAR

          nice engines and photo Melgar !!

Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

Apples55 posted:

Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.

phoch00 posted:

Apples55 posted:

Picked this up from Amazon... thanks MELGAR!!! Have just had time for a cursory glance, but looks fascinating.

On the positive side, I now know for sure that there was a NH train called the Hell Gate Express (love that name) - on the down side, not too much info on details, but might be from the days before the Osgood Bradley cars. More research is definitely in order...

Another real good book is "NH Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment" by David R. Sweetland and Stephan Horsley. I think you can get it on Amazon too. Also look up "The New Haven Railroad's Electrified Zone" by Robert A. Liljestrand with Richard Abramson for more.

Thanks Paul... I’ll have to check those out.

Some pics from my visit to the Danbury Railway Museum yesterday...

Wouldn’t want to be the carpenter who had to build all of these!!!

Here is a link to a topic with other pics from my visit:

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...18#81537088126574618

Found these on Amazon... luckily, it’s supposed to be very rainy tomorrow, so I have plenty of reading material for after I vote...