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I'm really looking forward to getting one of these, though I'm waiting for the 2021 catalog just in case Lionel puts out some new road names. It's better sized as a switcher for those of us running semi-scale/traditional sized gear. In an era of skyrocketing MSRPs, this one alsio seems like a bargain.

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Does that include this one?
https://www.lionel.com/product...ionchief-set-2022090

If so, I received mine last week from Charles Ro and have been running it heavily for several days.  I don't buy much new stuff, so I don't know what's considered "normal problems" for a modern starter loco.  Just really fell in love with this little set when I saw it.

The chuffing effect makes mine run with stuttering, jerky movements at low speeds.  This has gotten a little better over a few days of running and following a light grease and oil.  I eventually had to stick a piece of a paper clip in the mechanism of the rear coupler to keep it from randomly opening, so for all intents, it's now a nonfunctional coupler.

Lifetime conventional runner, so I'd prefer a handle in my hand and not the whole remote thing, but it's an overall good product, aside from the aforementioned items.  Smokes great, all sounds are loud and vivid.

Hopefully it better than the first run. our club has one and I have had to remoter it twice as it has $1 motor mounted vertically , the bearings wear in the motor and then gears start to get chewed up and it fails. there is no easy way to get it apart for normal lubrication to keep it from happening.  everything else about the loco is very nicely built but the cheap choice of motor makes its lifetime very short. and also No parts available so next go around this loco is history.

@Rick Rubino posted:

Hopefully it better than the first run. our club has one and I have had to remoter it twice as it has $1 motor mounted vertically , the bearings wear in the motor and then gears start to get chewed up and it fails. there is no easy way to get it apart for normal lubrication to keep it from happening.  everything else about the loco is very nicely built but the cheap choice of motor makes its lifetime very short. and also No parts available so next go around this loco is history.

Well, considering this is LC Plus 2.0 and quite a bit of a redesign (per Lionel Dave's comments some months back), let's hope for better results.

@johnstrains posted:

That's also my preorder. Liked the look of it in the catalog.

My layout is a reflection of our family.  My parents were New Yorker's and although I've spent my entire life in CT the New York influence did rub off on me.  So, I also liked the look but it was the "Brooklyn" that attracted me.    Also, No. 15 lives on in another life as prototype size Thomas the Tank based in Strasburg. 

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