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Has anybody got one of these Williams diesels, in either UP or another road name?  It has dual motors and is O-27.
The reason I ask, is that the specs say it is only 9 inches long, coupler to coupler.

That is pretty darned short and I like short locos.    But, I wonder how far apart the rollers are underneath, and whether it would have a problem getting over back to back switches.

And, I wonder how it compares to the RMT S-4 Bang, also with dual motors, which is about the same length, but far cheaper.

Any info is appreciated.



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9 inches end to end is correct.

The pick up rollers are way at the end of the trucks and they are 6" apart.

I have not run mine, so I can't speak to it's performance. But it is much heavier and beefier than any RMT engine I have, but I only have the beefs and bangs. But if it's like my many other Williams engines, it's probably bullet proof.

I think I paid either $149 or $169 from one of our Forum Sponsors, so really no more expensive than an RMT engine.




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Last edited by mustang

Mannyrock - i don't know where you get $200 plus when Trainworld, an OGR Forum sponsor has them listed at $149.99.

If you check around most dealers are asking over $200 for it.  All of the Williams have gone up in price.   Even from the vendor I bought both of mine from several months ago.

Corporate owned media were just spewing about some sort of "toy shortage" before this Christmas today.  We'll see.


Last edited by Craftech

Craftech (John) - I don't give a darn about "most". I was merely offering a suggestion to Mannyrock. When i buy anything over a few dollars, i shop around. In the case of trains my go to places are Charlie Ro, Trainworld, and my local hobby shop (who often can match prices). When i posted $149.99 it was because i checked it about 5 minutes before posting. So, i'm not sure what your point is other than trying to prove me wrong while also taking an opportunity  to knock the media. Have a nice night.         

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