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"Agree with you.  A lot of junque, not a lot of good stuff."

The junk is the good stuff to me.  Nothing I like better than to find some decrepit car or loco (at a fair price) and bring it back to life to roll on again.  I know they are souless things, but think about how many miles and hands of kids that junk lived through, and you want to make it alive again.

I flew into York from Kansas City this morning (super early flight). I have been to  many Yorks in the past, on and off since 2000, making it typically once a year.  With COVID going on, I had not been since fall of 2019, but it seems like the show is much different now.  Almost no manufactures in attendance today (on Thursday) reminding me of the typical Saturday morning crowd.  Very little modern stuff compared to shows past.  Even older TMCC and PS2 stuff just not really there.   It is surprising that all the product made since roughly 2000 seems to be absent from the shows.

The allure for securing resources to commute and take time off work from the Midwest seems to fading.  I suspect this will be one of my last Yorks

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Almost no vendors, with attendance today (on Thursday) reminding me of the typical Saturday morning crowd.  Very little modern stuff compared to shows past.  Even older TMCC and PS2 stuff just not really there.   It is surprising that all the product made since roughly 2000 seems to be absent from the shows.

I definitely thing it was smaller than those I had been to pre-pandemic, but I totally disagree that there were "almost no vendors."

Mr. Muffins, Nassau Hobby, Just Trains, Gybrozky's, Trainworld, Neely's and many others were there.  Atlas O and Andy Edelman we're there, as well as Ross Custom Switches, JT MegaSteam, MicroMark, and Caroline from Glenn Snyder Display Systems.

The Blue, Silver and Red halls were pretty well stocked too. The purple hall ended up just being layouts this year.

I'd say it was 75% of pre-covid, and I I'm comparing to Fridays as that's usually the day I go.

P.S. there was a ton of post-2000 stuff there.  I picked up a Lionel T1 for a decent price and there were several booths in the Orange hall with lots and lots of modern MTH and Lionel era stuff. One guy had a wall of Atlas Steam Era rolling stock. Probably the most I've ever seen in one place.

The member halls definitely trended more towards pre and post war stuff. But I got a couple really nice outside braced composite PRR war bonds hoppers with diecast trucks for a song.

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Great day at York! Picked up Atlas O-72 curves and other track pieces. Saw more at good prices but passed until I get a track plan finalized. Also purchased 5 pieces of rolling stock at decent prices ($25-$50) including Atlas Rutland 55 ton coal hopper that I’ve been looking for going on 2 years. One vendor had MTH Premier offset hoppers in couple of road names for $30-35 that I might pick up tomorrow as most recent models new are $60 -70. Also picked up half-dozen Dremel heads for cutting, track cleaning et al and couple of other nice modeling tools. So much fun being able to access so many train hobby items in one place.

Capped off the day by going to the Red Lion layout open house. Fun layout with lots of animation and whimsical touches to compliment some fine modeling.Add to that really nice folks who work on and maintain the layout and thoroughly enjoyed our visit.

Returning tomorrow morning and then heading to Horseshoe Curve near Altoona. Saw Rockville RR Bridge on Wednesday. Love coming to York.

I had a blast for my first York ever! Talk about a bit overwhelming at first but I eased into it just fine. Gathered a bunch of buildings and multiple water towers plus so much more! Then I ran out of money so I’ll be back tomorrow to run out of money again!!! The train therapy though has me feeling so relaxed! I have come to peace with my purchase’s and all future purchase’s hahaha.

I tried hard to restrain myself this time.  A guy had a box of AEC glow in dark boxcars and the four colored fluid tank cars $20 each.  Got the 2388 KCS F AA units and a mint SP FM trainmaster for 350.  Bought a SF GP9 used no box for 75.  Found another one brand new in the orange hall for 45 so now I have two.  Got a bubbling colber water tower and lionel 4 bulb yard tower and 3 kline operating tracks for 20.  Got a NP GP9 remake with TMCC and RailSounds in the box for 75.00.  Passed on  the DRG F3 celebration engine cause they were in a freight set.

Got one pass set to pick up tomorrow then I'll head home

Having attended many York meets since 2006 (yes, not as far back as some), I would have to say that this had the lightest attendance in both sellers and buyers that I have seen.  There were no crowds, and I saw plenty of yawns from the sellers.  We drove almost seven hours total today and walked around the show for 3 hours.  I actually think that I might skip the Fall meet.

I find it interesting (concerning?) in regards to the larger dealers at the show, such as Mr Muffin, Trainz, Stockyard Express, Trainworld and Nassau Hobbies.  Considering that their inventory is available online, I see no reason to visit their booths.

Besides picking up pre-ordered shelving from Glen Synder, I only purchased 2 pieces of older rolling stock from Just Trains. 

I was tempted to buy some Super-O track, as there seemed to be a reasonable amount of it available, and I thought the interior detailing on the 64' Woodsided coaches from the vendor in the Orange hall, was fascinating.  Does anyone have the contact info for that vendor?  BY the time I had gotten there I was pretty much done.

I actually think that I might skip the Fall meet.

Having been to both Fall and Spring, I think I'd skip Spring.  I love my trains, and Fall just seems to be the time that love peaks.  Face it in the Spring people seem to be more focused on getting the lawnmower going, the yard cleaned up, and a few late night BBQ's

I find it interesting (concerning?) in regards to the larger dealers at the show, such as Mr Muffin, Trainz, Stockyard Express, Trainworld and Nassau Hobbies.  Considering that their inventory is available online, I see no reason to visit their booths.

You should.  They usually have deals going during the show.  I think I heard @KenJrTW say $15 off RailKing and $30 off Premier locomotives.  Or was it LionChief and Legacy... Don't quote me.

I thought the interior detailing on the 64' Woodsided coaches from the vendor in the Orange hall, was fascinating.  Does anyone have the contact info for that vendor?  BY the time I had gotten there I was pretty much done.

I'll have to check that out tomorrow.  Have a row number?

If you have never been to York,  I would definitely go.  Whether it's 1978 or 2022  the first time York experience is a huge overload.  THEN decide if you want to ever go back.

I've been several times and usually start planning my next trip during the 27 hour drive one way back home to South Texas.

It's an experience you can't order up on line, through Google, eBay, or siri.

Having attended many York meets since 2006 (yes, not as far back as some), I would have to say that this had the lightest attendance in both sellers and buyers that I have seen.  There were no crowds, and I saw plenty of yawns from the sellers.  We drove almost seven hours total today and walked around the show for 3 hours.  I actually think that I might skip the Fall meet.

I find it interesting (concerning?) in regards to the larger dealers at the show, such as Mr Muffin, Trainz, Stockyard Express, Trainworld and Nassau Hobbies.  Considering that their inventory is available online, I see no reason to visit their booths.

Besides picking up pre-ordered shelving from Glen Synder, I only purchased 2 pieces of older rolling stock from Just Trains.

I was tempted to buy some Super-O track, as there seemed to be a reasonable amount of it available, and I thought the interior detailing on the 64' Woodsided coaches from the vendor in the Orange hall, was fascinating.  Does anyone have the contact info for that vendor?  BY the time I had gotten there I was pretty much done.

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Iam having a great time the crowd on Thursday was lighter but for me it's the details that make the RR and I found them. It was great to have Jack Pierce back from Canada If you are starting out this is a great time to build a roster at reasonable prices.  Best deal I have seen to date a 4 pack of MTH railking Amtrak superliner cars for 175 in excellent shape and Mr Muffin had the new Mohawks for 1400. I luv York and my Railroad family. Folks the show is evolving just like everything else in life and for me reminding me of the 80s when I started coming and was the members meet to trade and sell and greet. The vendors and manufacturers came later and piggybacked on the members success not the other way around.  Now their economic model has changed with the internet etc. Long live York!

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Folks the show is evolving just like everything else in life and for me reminding me of the 80s when I started coming and was the members meet to trade and sell and greet. The vendors and manufacturers came later and piggybacked on the members success not the other way around.  Now their economic model has changed with the internet etc. Long live York!

Don....totally agree......I can’t say it any better!

Peter

Having attended many York meets since 2006 (yes, not as far back as some), I would have to say that this had the lightest attendance in both sellers and buyers that I have seen.  There were no crowds, and I saw plenty of yawns from the sellers.  We drove almost seven hours total today and walked around the show for 3 hours.  I actually think that I might skip the Fall meet.



I couldn't make it there this spring, but I recall the Spring of 2019 being lightly attended on Thursday as well, which surprised me, at the time.  The fall meets are typically better attended and I plan on going this fall.

NWL

@texgeekboy posted:

@Richizzle07;

Your post was the most interesting to me since you've never been there.  You had nothing to compare it to, it was all fresh.  So, as a first-timer, would you recommend it to others that haven't been there yet (like me)?

Absolutely I highly recommend it! Atleast try it once and you’ll be hooked (wow how that sounds bad haha now I understand the saying “train addiction”)  Do some research prior on the fairgrounds layout and all the information provided by the EDTCA. There’s also several different posts with different types of tips throughout the forum. Clem’s York Primer is extremely helpful! I didn’t even make it to all the halls yesterday so if possible, take advantage of the multiple days. But most of all, if you love trains, you’ll love every second of attending York!

Shortly, I’ll be off for round two of traincation! Knocked out a good portion of my list yesterday, way more then I was expecting to find.

@CBQ_Bill posted:

@rplst8

Is Steve from Ross Custom Switches in your picture ?  

Is he one of the guys sitting behind the table ?

If yes, which guy ?

Thanks in advance !!!

Of the 5 guys in the photo, the only one that...IMHO...could be Steve is the chap at the computer, farthest right.  Just looks like the back of his salt&pepper gray hair!

And, yes, he is indeed among the most congenial of the hobby's leaders.

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