Atlas Catalog

I just looked at Atlas' All Scales Catalog hoping to see Atlas' new choices for the 4750 new choices but found nothing. i'm not familiar with O Scale Updates so maybe I'm off base here,but should I assume there will be no more 4750 updates for a few years?

Al Hummel

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Atlas ran that car last year and will probably announce another run within the next 12 months delivery appears to be slowing down as the last few months new announcements have been limited also the latest A-Z shipping schedule appears to have at least 17 models for 4Q 2017, now we all know thats not happening, I suspect we will only see one more container report that holds the possibility of a late Dec early Jan delivery. JMO

Atlas is no longer producing semi-annual catalogs.  They are being replaced by monthly offerings from which you must order.  Cuts down on long-term expectations and product delays (maybe), but also gives you the chance to e-mail them with requests.  Who knows, maybe they will act on one of your requests?

Chuck

hibar posted:

... also the latest A-Z shipping schedule appears to have at least 17 models for 4Q 2017, now we all know thats not happening, I suspect we will only see one more container report that holds the possibility of a late Dec early Jan delivery.   ...

Agreed.  I've been watching their shipping as well, since the last of my Atlas-O orders (i.e., a bunch of those CSX: How Tomorrow Moves Maxi-IV containers) slipped from a 3Q2017 date to a 4Q2017, which now seems unlikely as well UNLESS those 53' containers make an early October 2017 shipment out of China.

Atlas-O overseas factory shipments recently occurred in late May, early August, and early September... and then Atlas-O in turn shipped the corresponding product out to their dealers in roughly 7-8 weeks.  So for any additional product expected to see the light of day into consumers hands this year yet, it would seem the best chance would be an overseas factory shipment in early- to mid-October.  After that, I think the window will be closing for Atlas-O products arriving in consumers' hands by year-end 2017. 

David 

 

Rocky Mountaineer posted:
hibar posted:

... also the latest A-Z shipping schedule appears to have at least 17 models for 4Q 2017, now we all know thats not happening, I suspect we will only see one more container report that holds the possibility of a late Dec early Jan delivery.   ...

Agreed.  I've been watching their shipping as well, since the last of my Atlas-O orders (i.e., a bunch of those CSX: How Tomorrow Moves Maxi-IV containers) slipped from a 3Q2017 date to a 4Q2017, which now seems unlikely as well UNLESS those 53' containers make an early October 2017 shipment out of China.

Atlas-O overseas factory shipments recently occurred in late May, early August, and early September... and then Atlas-O in turn shipped the corresponding product out to their dealers in roughly 7-8 weeks.  So for any additional product expected to see the light of day into consumers hands this year yet, it would seem the best chance would be an overseas factory shipment in early- to mid-October.  After that, I think the window will be closing for Atlas-O products arriving in consumers' hands by year-end 2017. 

David 

 

Atlas 10/6 container shipping, balance of Bulkhead flats, wartime gondolas , wagon top box cars, 40' steel rebuilt box cars = late Nov shipping from Atlas on these cars.

hibar posted:

...  Atlas 10/6 container shipping, balance of Bulkhead flats, wartime gondolas , wagon top box cars, 40' steel rebuilt box cars = late Nov shipping from Atlas on these cars.

Is this what you're referring to (from the Atlas RR website)?

http://www.atlasrr.com/containershipping.htm

If so, I'm a bit confused... since it refers to an ETA of 10/6/17.  So it's possible this is perhaps the container that shipped on Sept 11th (according to the Atlas-O website).  Or if that's not the case, it could be more of the same items that shipped in Sept are also shipping in October.    In any event, the Atlas-O website hasn't been updated to reflect a container shipment from China in October yet.

Ugghhhh.... I guess at the end of the day, we'll see this stuff whenever it gets here. 

Typically on the A-Z report the container ship date posted takes 6-8 weeks to hit the Atlas shipping to dealers/customers date column, a number of times there is a later posted container ship date on the atlasrr.com/containershipping.htm possibly indicating balance of original shipment. One of the reasons why some customers receive dealer pick up  notices much later than others.  At some point down the road we will get containers and Berwick boxcars as for the GE 8-40CWs after 7 years who really knows, Rob Pisani stated at the spring York meet that they would be the next engine in production but hes gone now so all bets are off. JMO

The new announcements are for the ACF 70-ton 2-bay covered hoppers and the 20' Containers in new paint schemes.

That seems like a big cut back.

The workers in China must be working on the long delayed Diesel Locomotives, so there are not many new freight cars right now. 

Andrew 

hibar posted:
 

Atlas 10/6 container shipping, balance of Bulkhead flats, wartime gondolas , wagon top box cars, 40' steel rebuilt box cars = late Nov shipping from Atlas on these cars.

Good to hear about these. I own virtually no Atlas products but as a B&O fan I was in for these wagon tops.

TCA, LCCA

hibar posted:

Any of you guys going to York later this month will have the opportunity to talk to the current Atlas reps at the MFGs  forum or at their booth about the shipping schedule.

Whether you can get any authoritative answer is anyone's guess.  In all likelihood, the answers will go something like this:  "If all goes as planned, we expect <fill in the blank> to arrive <around mm/yyyy."  Some may volunteer extra information like, "We just received production prototypes last week, but we didn't have time to bring them out to York."  

I don't envy these folks, because so much is now out of their control.  All they can do is try to put the best possible spin on a tough situation.  You almost gotta feel a bit sorry for them, 'cause they're gonna get hit with that question at least several dozen times over the course of 3 days.    So I've actually stopped asking.  Because at the end of the day, the stuff is gonna arrive when it gets here.  But it's understandably human nature to feel frustrated when dates continue to slip.

David

When you are a MFGs rep at these shows that comes with the territory, it appears based on recent monthly announcements that Atlas is limiting future production either to catch up with present backlog or O gauge is  going to be a limited run line for them. JMO

hibar posted:

When you are a MFGs rep at these shows that comes with the territory, it appears based on recent monthly announcements that Atlas is limiting future production either to catch up with present backlog or O gauge is  going to be a limited run line for them. JMO

I think it's the former rather than the latter. If you notice on their shipping schedule all overdue motive power is listed towards the top, including such Trainman locomotives like the Dash 8-40CW's and RSD-7/15's. I believe Atlas realizes that backlogged engines take a greater precedence over rolling stock. Aside from the F7's in January Atlas has not delivered any locomotives this year.

Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.

Way back when Atlas had about a 4year time when basically nothing was available in any scale,they were supposed to pull everything in China and move it-what happened to that dream?

I surely give Lionel credit for keeping the Lionscale project in North Carolina. I think they could easily take over the Atlas O Scale line and I think O Scale would see BIG improvements in availablity,but that's just my opnion for what little that's worth.

I think I bought the last CSX 4750s from any hobby shop. I researched this & can't find any,so come on Atlas,get to moving. I know O Scale is extremely small compared to HO,but waiting years on a project is ridiculous. Availability is 9/10s of the battle,if new modelers find this out,how many can be counted on to move into O Scale? Sorry,but had I have known all I now know,I'd have stayed in HO. This scale seems to be rooted in the Steam,Early Diesel era,or so it would seem. Start talking about modern things like shelf couplers,and the conversation starts to get sort of ugly.

I was told by someone at Atlas years back that they were "committed" to O Scale. Well,if that's so,they better get out of China too many projects are lagging WAY TOO FAR BEHIND.

Lionel & MTH could split up Atlas and I think the modelers would be happy & so would Atlas. Again,all this is just my opinion.

As Always,

Al Hummel

DAVID 1,

I agree with you but 98% of everything I have is Atlas. My diesels,&hi-cube boxcars,are MTH. I have some used Weaver cars,about a dozen in all. 

Modeling from the '80s to present day,is a challenge for me. Couplers from Atlas are junk. No shelf couplers on modern stock is like having Link&Pin couplers on '50s era rolling stock. Lack of realism will hold serious modelers from going O Scale too. I'm close enough to 60 to call it & don't have ages to wait on things I want that may never happen. I'm willing to be patient if I have reason to believe things will come along in a REASONABLE TIME FRAME,not 20 years from now. I love the size of O Scale,but when that becomes all I have going for me on the plus side of the "checks and balances" column,it's time to sit down & do a serious evaluation of where things stand and where they're going.

Come on Atlas Rep's,talk to your "bread and butter" customers!!

Again,just my 2 cents worth.

As Always,

Al Hummel 

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