ATSF Window Shade color, looking for opinions.

Hi Charlie:

I am far from being an authority on this subject so I can only tell you what looks better to me. I like the buff look in the plain version. Just my opinion.

Charlie, you might try here.  From what I could see, they have modeled them just off white.

http://www.atsfrr.com/links/atsf/passenger.htm

90% of all Pullman heavies from this era and sub-leased to roads including the ATSF or road bought cars used a dark hunter green fabric on the track shades.

I used a wonderful colored paper from Archiver's stores.

Precision Scale Co. 10-1-2 "Lake Laura"

Precision Scale Co. Solarium Casino Lounge Pullman lease CB&Q "Burlington House"

In the Betterment Era the cars were two tone grayed in an effort to better match this new exterior finish and modernization of the cars interiors the shades were changed to shades of silver and grays.

Precision Scale Co. 6-3 Pullman Betterment Pool "Herald Square" assigned to ATSF, DRGW, and Union Pacific.

The ATSF two toned gray followed suite with Betterment standards.

Pecos River Brass 15' RPO/Baggage

I model the ATSF pretty heavily also.

The distinctive "Coach Green" of the ATSF also shared a communality with the Pullman in interior decoration and window shade colors. Most of the ATSF's unique "channeled"  heavyweights were built by PS.

A variation of the popular two tone gray used by the Union Pacific.

Precision Scale Co. Harriman Common Standard 72' Diner "Challenger"

As you can see I do obsess a little over things.

Brian, Marker and Erik, thanks for the input.

Brian, I'm starting to agree about the Buff color as well. At first I did not like it, but it’s starting to grow on me.

Marker, I have spent a lot of time on the ATSF site and that is where I found the window shade color as being "Buff". Lots of great information from their site. The other place I found a lot of great pictures is the Denver Public Library archives.

Erik, I have also read about the Pullman cars having the green shades, but was confused about the "Buff" reference from the ATSF painting and lettering guide. 

It makes total sense that white or ivory was not used so I will not be using that. But, I'd still like to explorer deeper the green and buff recommendations.

I have a bunch of books and web sites with Pullman information, however, all images are in BW and the only reference in printing (with regard to ATSF) is the buff color. Can you direct me to some additional reference material that might provide some information on the green used? 

Thanks again guys, I'll post more pictures as I move forward on this project.

Charlie

Charlie,

I think if you read a "Buff" a common color for the interiors of the cars one would surmise this would be correct. I found that this covers the interior colors, walls, etc. The Shades were colored facing out to create a continuity in the car body color but like anything there is a degree of exception to every rule.

I really like the Golden Gate Depot heavyweights..

Now if Scott would only do the following configurations:

6-6

8-5

10-1-2

Just a few on the list I would like to see done.

Erik, thanks:

I found that this covers the interior colors, walls, etc. The Shades were colored facing out to create a continuity in the car body color

Now that makes sense. I just assumed that the inside color was the same as the outside color. I need to remember that they did not have the light blocking technology that we have today.

I will look into the green color for the window shades.

Charlie