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I have just attempted a scenery project that was an utter failure, IMO.

As I mentioned on another recent thread, I had new pipes installed in my basement that stick out like a sore, rather white, thumb above a corner of my layout. Here they are:

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One of our very creative Forum members suggested that I make clouds to hide or blend in with the white pipes.

This morning I got what I thought was a great idea to make the clouds: use crumpled up, white tissue paper and glue it to the pipes.

Are you ready for a laugh?

Take a look at this:

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That tissue paper is now in the garbage.

I share this for 2 reasons: 1) to show that scenery is a process and initial attempts, at least for me, often fail, and 2) to get some of your ideas on how to create better clouds.

I have no idea, at this point, whether I will be able to make clouds to hide the pipes such that they are acceptable to me, but I have initially failed before at scenery projects and ultimately been satisfied with them, which makes their success even sweeter.

What do you think? Any suggestions on how to make clouds that will cover up the pipes?

Arnold

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@Craftech posted:

Black ABS would have looked better.  You could paint the white ones black or buy black ones and replace those.  Just make sure no on flushes while you are doing it.

John

Unfortunately, ABS pipe does not meet code in NY.

Arnold- the clouds need to be applied to the pipe, not wrapped around them. Try polyester batting for pillows. It can be shaped as desired and applied in layers. You may want to add support between the two vertical lines to increase the "cloud cover" as well.

You could paint it black as John suggested. It would not stand out as much at least.

I will give you credit for sharing your adventures with us.

Bob

And try, try again.

I have just attempted a scenery project that was an utter failure, IMO.

As I mentioned on another recent thread, I had new pipes installed in my basement that stick out like a sore, rather white, thumb above a corner of my layout. Here they are:

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Arnold

Another idea..... Since Yankee stadium is nearby...How about adding a couple of building flats to hide the pipes with a tunnel below for the trains to go through. The Cross Bronx under the apartments comes to mind.

Arnold,

I could see a wall of building facades over the front of the pipes that you can remove a street in the foreground and then a park to mimic the feel of central park.  You do scenes with people so well, it would make that corner pretty interesting.

For me, I literally go back to the drawing board frequently.  My challenge is though until I get into my next home, it will stay just that.  On the drawing board.

Sometimes the drawing board is digital as in the case of this drawing for 3rd Rail FL9s from 2012

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Sometimes it is the doodle while doing something else.  In this case it was designing a modular layout while in child birth classes prior to my youngest being born.  She'll be 12 in a month.  You can see that I was paying attention with the notes in the upper right corner.

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Finally, at other times, it's more planned out like this 16'x8' layout I took some time planning when I was in the N scale world.  This one may still be on the table so to speak.

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What I have found overall is that it is the challenges, such as the pipes in your case, that provide us the opportunity to be at our most creative.  Who knows?  Those pipes could also be the beginnings of a steel mill or some industrial plant and be integral to the design of your layout.  Whatever you figure out, I know your creativity knows no bounds.

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@RSJB18 posted:

Unfortunately, ABS pipe does not meet code in NY.

Arnold- the clouds need to be applied to the pipe, not wrapped around them. Try polyester batting for pillows. It can be shaped as desired and applied in layers. You may want to add support between the two vertical lines to increase the "cloud cover" as well.

You could paint it black as John suggested. It would not stand out as much at least.

I will give you credit for sharing your adventures with us.

Bob

Bob,

Can you show me code regarding the ABS pipe?  This is what I turned up:

https://up.codes/viewer/new_yo...itary-drainage#702.1



In terms of the other suggestions, you don't want to draw attention TO it.  You want people to ignore it.  Thus the black color.

John

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@Craftech posted:

Bob,

Can you show me code regarding the ABS pipe?  This is what I turned up:

https://up.codes/viewer/new_yo...itary-drainage#702.1



In terms of the other suggestions, you don't want to draw attention TO it.  You want people to ignore it.  Thus the black color.

John

I stand corrected. I'm also shocked that it's allowed in the NYC code. The City was always more strict than national codes.

Arnold;

One more possibility. Since your scene appears to be in the Bronx (based on a nearby item whose name I will NOT say ), how about a Bronx staple - a section of elevated highway??? There are downward slopes near each end which could be covered by some concrete abutments, and the roadway could run across the horizontal pipe. It you construct it as a one piece flat that is somehow attached to the pipe, it would be fairly easy to remove if needed.

You need a curved backdrop in the corner - in front of the pipes.

1) Remove the backdrop from the wall and remove the buildings just behind the track.

2) Get large, tall piece(s) of white oaktag.

3) Bend the oaktag to the outside curve of the track ties.

4) Secure oaktag at the bottom and perhaps to the pipe, leaving clearance between the oaktag and the curved track. You may need some reinforcement behind the oaktag.

5) Mount the backdrop on the curved surface of the oaktag.

MELGAR

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@Apples55 posted:

Arnold;

One more possibility. Since your scene appears to be in the Bronx (based on a nearby item whose name I will NOT say ), how about a Bronx staple - a section of elevated highway??? There are downward slopes near each end which could be covered by some concrete abutments, and the roadway could run across the horizontal pipe. It you construct it as a one piece flat that is somehow attached to the pipe, it would be fairly easy to remove if needed.

Another great idea. Thanks Paul.

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