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I have a love-hate relationship with this accessory. It is a TMCC controlled accessory.  I've replaced the mother board and the sound board. I rewired it as Lionel described to allow the Cab to turn on and control  the smoke unit and the doors  and the motorized accessories.  Since I've owned it, the smoke unit produced a wafting smoke stream, very light, but constant.   A few weeks ago, I  goofed and dropped fluid into the air intake  hole, not the smoke hole. At the time, it didn't seem to  affect the unit.   However, Monday, it stopped producing smoke. I did the usual, a few drops of fluid...nothing.  I did check, the resistor and it was hot.  I opened it up, and noticed a few things. The batting was compacted and burnt as was the sleeve on the resistor.  Also, I saw a fan blade which surprised me as the smoke output was never as dense or voluminous as you would expect with a fan driven unit. I powered up the accessory to see if the blade turned and it did not.  One last data point. I followed Mike R.'s instructions in his TMCC smoke unit rebuild video and replaced the batting, and cut off the sleeve on the resistor. No smoke to speak  of. If I use a dropper to push air into the air intake hole, a bit of smoke will come out, but then nothing.

Question: Is this smoke unit fan driven?  I realize there is a fan,  but maybe it was just simpler for Lionel to put a unit in with a fan but no motor? 

thanks,

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I have not rewired my mother board yet as prescribed by Lionel but my fan motor on the smoke unit runs and has a strong output.  when I first got the accessory the fan motor was very noisy like a bad bearing noise.  I took the smoke unit apart and lubricated the fan and now runs strong AND quite.  the fan motor is a replaceable part so worst case scenario would be to install a new one.  I am guessing a little oil and it will be fine.  let me know what you find.

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Ed

I have not rewired my mother board yet as prescribed by Lionel but my fan motor on the smoke unit runs and has a strong output.  when I first got the accessory the fan motor was very noisy like a bad bearing noise.  I took the smoke unit apart and lubricated the fan and now runs strong AND quite.  the fan motor is a replaceable part so worst case scenario would be to install a new one.  I am guessing a little oil and it will be fine.  let me know what you find.

Bill, how did you remove the smoke unit? I've removed the PCB but not sure how to remove it completely from the base. 

I've decided to replace the PCB and the fan motor. I've replaced about everything else, so, what the heck!   I've noticed that now my new sound board and new motherboard are beginning to show the same symptoms as  the boards I recently replaced: sound is very loud initially, then gets quiet, and the volume control POT on the MB is really hinkey...it's not a smooth transition from loud to quiet.  Has  anyone else experienced these phenomena?  

There are some New in Box Backshops available.  I am considering purchasing one and the owner is willing to take it back if it is not working properly.  What was the issues with the early boards that prompted Lionel to issue replacements?  How would I tell if this unit is working properly or not?  Are there any distinguishing marks on boards that were updated versions either that were retrofitted or came with later units?

Youtube videos show the operation of the Backshop to be really interesting.  It would be a shame to get one and only be able to see it sit idle.

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