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I just acquired a MTH 20-2242, the UP inspection car, very clean.  Before I ran it I opened it up and saw it had a normal 9V battery.  I switched it out for a new green MTH one.  I left the engine on a powered track for 12 hours, but when i check the battery status through the remote it states low.  Sounds do play for 6+ seconds when you cut the power.  They did not know how long the battery was in there.  If the engine was run with the normal battery, could it have done any damage to any of the internals.  Everything else seems fine.  Sometimes when i hit info on the remote, I get different results than the prior time I hit info, even though it was not fun.  I can return it for a full refund, if I need to.  

thanks

tony

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Tony,

Sounds do play for 6+ seconds when you cut the power

That indicates that the battery is good and charged.

If the engine was run with the normal battery, could it have done any damage to any of the internals.

Possibly.

Sometimes when i hit info on the remote, I get different results than the prior time I hit info

You should. The chronometer and mileage should change with operation.

even though it was not fun.

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Barry Broskowitz posted:

Tony,

Sounds do play for 6+ seconds when you cut the power

That indicates that the battery is good and charged.

If the engine was run with the normal battery, could it have done any damage to any of the internals.

Possibly.

Sometimes when i hit info on the remote, I get different results than the prior time I hit info

You should. The chronometer and mileage should change with operation.

even though it was not fun.

???


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If I could type, it would be good.

Even though it was not fun, should have been Even though it was not run.

The code BATT came on DCS remote for Lionel Locomotive.  I checked the Duracell 9v and it was indeed low and needed to be changed.  I had an extra MTH rechargeable battery and charged it overnight.  Checked the voltage and was fully charged and installed it.

Everything on the engine worked fine.  Except, the code BATT didn't, go away.  I tried to reset the engine and that didn't work.  Took a battery out of the Remote and that didn't work.  Then I went to a MTH loco and the code BATT was still there.  Finally went to the DCS 3rd edition and could fine nothing to reset the Remote and remove the code BATT.

Does the Duracell alkaline battery need to be used as Lionel suggest.  I would think a rechargeable shouldn't make a difference as long as it holds a charge.

I would like any suggestion onto remove the BATT code from the screen on the remote.

@Missabe posted:

The code BATT came on DCS remote for Lionel Locomotive.  I checked the Duracell 9v and it was indeed low and needed to be changed.  I had an extra MTH rechargeable battery and charged it overnight.  Checked the voltage and was fully charged and installed it.

Everything on the engine worked fine.  Except, the code BATT didn't, go away.  I tried to reset the engine and that didn't work.  Took a battery out of the Remote and that didn't work.  Then I went to a MTH loco and the code BATT was still there.  Finally went to the DCS 3rd edition and could fine nothing to reset the Remote and remove the code BATT.

Does the Duracell alkaline battery need to be used as Lionel suggest.  I would think a rechargeable shouldn't make a difference as long as it holds a charge.

I would like any suggestion onto remove the BATT code from the screen on the remote.

#1 TMCC is a one way communications protocol (remote to base to engine). Even IF the 9V battery in a Lionel loco mattered (It does not for operational purposes), let alone was measured for charge (the Lionel circuit does not "measure" the battery), the very protocol never allows that to get back to any remote- not Lionel and sure as heck not an MTH remote.

#2 The battery indication on the remote is your batteries in the remote are low.

#3 Yes, battery type DOES MATTER. Regular batteries are 1.5V nominal full capacity. Rechargeable batteries are only 1.2V each. So when fully charged or full regular batteries are installed 4X1.5V= 6V, however, 4X1.2V batteries is only 4.8V a full 1.2V difference. So this is why when using rechargeable batteries, they may indicate discharged battery warning status early compared to the same result using 1.5V Alkaline batteries.

#4 The DCS remote also has a backlight function and this draws current and when ON can shorten battery life as well as further causing early display of the battery low warning indicator.

Last edited by Vernon Barry

Again, bottom line 2 entirely different discussions.

The topic was looking at DCS status and specifically the function to read the current battery status in a PS2 locomotive that may have had a charging circuit problem.

This is an entirely different conversation- than the "idiot light" (I'm not calling you an idiot, I'm saying the "type" of typical dash warning indicator) Battery indicator warning on a DCS remote to warn you your batteries for the remote are reading low.

Last edited by Vernon Barry
@Missabe posted:
I would like any suggestion onto remove the BATT code from the screen on the remote.

Change the batteries in the DCS remote.

@Missabe posted:
Does the Duracell alkaline battery need to be used as Lionel suggest.  I would think a rechargeable shouldn't make a difference as long as it holds a charge.

Lionel Railsounds has no charging capability, so a rechargeable battery is somewhat pointless. Consider something like my YLB - RailSounds Battery Replacement for your Lionel locomotives to replace the battery. Never needs to be changed or charged.

Vernon,  thanks for the education on the remote.  I do keep a binder of DCS & Legacy system attached to my layout.  I guess when I saw the code BATT I assumed it was the engine.  The battery was installed years ago and after testing the battery it was low.  Why I didn't get the connection of the remotes codes is beyond me.  I use-to periodically check the remotes batteries.  Evidently forgot that practice.  The remote batteries, 1 dead & 3 on the verge.

The easiest fix, thank again,

Gerry W Jones

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