My passion/obsession since my first FM locos , the Atlas N scale C_Liner and MiniTrix switch engine , both in Milwaukee Rd ....
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AC&Y had a small fleet of FM H16-44 and H20-44 diesels. Lionel produced this model several years ago. One of my favorite locos.
Tom
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I worked at a power plant that had one of these engines as a back up generator. Unfortunately it was defunct before I got there and I never was able to see it run. I was told at the time those engines were still popular on older tugboats.
More bad photography... 6-18340/CCII ...pulls 20+ Die-cast rolling stock up grade. I have the MTH Caboose somewhere.
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Also used on submarines
https://ww2db.com/ship_spec.php?ship_id=864
The USS Ling was a museum in the 70s? 80s? I was surprised to see all the FM power in the engine room.
I've got two Williams Train Masters, one in Wabash Blue Bird paint, the other in Great Northern Orange, and a Lionel NYC H10-44.
@jhz563 posted:I worked at a power plant that had one of these engines as a back up generator. Unfortunately it was defunct before I got there and I never was able to see it run. I was told at the time those engines were still popular on older tugboats.
Older US submarines as well.
Steve
I have been enamored with the Train Master engine since Lionel cataloged the Virginian TM (albeit the incorrect color scheme) back in the 50's. So in the early 2000's I picked the K-Line version (seem to be the best representation of an O-gauge TM) of the Pennsy TM. The same time added the MTH conventional Pennsy H10-44 which I upgraded to DCS.
I believe it was 2010 that MTH announced retooling the Premier line Tran Master. So in 2011 brought the Pennsy version (seeking the K-Line one).
Then early in 2012 added the MTH Southern version.
Note that MTH correctly tooled the Southern version with the set down lower pilot deck!
Ron
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@Rusty Traque posted:
Fantastic !
Love the Wabash scheme on the TM .... gorgeous ...
neat book ! I don’t have that one ...
sweet !
@JET posted:All cast brass? Nice!
Brass or bronze. Unfortunately the wheels are not insulated so it is an outside third-rail locomotive for the time being.
Oh Goody! Another Fairbanks Morse thread. How did I miss this? First one is my sand-cast Erie-Built, which you have seen before. Next is my friend Maroon's "Fernando Valley" sand-cast F-M from days of yore. Finally, and I forget who did the body, is my H16-66, using CLW trucks. The body is sand cast in one piece; the trucks are lost-wax CLW.
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MTH did not sell the Train Master tooling or their H10-44 tooling ...
Hoping those will be part of the special order models, in the future
@bob2 posted:Oh Goody! Another Fairbanks Morse thread. How did I miss this? First one is my sand-cast Erie-Built, which you have seen before. Next is my friend Maroon's "Fernando Valley" sand-cast F-M from days of yore. Finally, and I forget who did the body, is my H16-66, using CLW trucks. The body is sand cast in one piece; the trucks are lost-wax CLW.
All 3 are beauties !
If you ever need a good home to store them , I know of a place in SC 😅
@WP posted:
Not being an SP guy i wondered about the giant auxiliary headlights. Enough searching found this, very interesting technology compared to the more well known mars light.
dPrasse, i am confused! I thought the NCTM show was cancelled in 2020 because of the Covid? Feel sure that Marcus sent me an email to that affect.
Ron
@PRRronbh posted:Now I realize where you were set up or should say where you were going to set up. The last time walked by your table there were only two half circles of track laying there.
Ron
Yup ...
Set up the tables on Friday ...
Came back first thing Saturday to set everything else up ... a Kia Soul only holds do much 🤣🤣
@bob2 posted:Oh Goody! Another Fairbanks Morse thread. How did I miss this? First one is my sand-cast Erie-Built, which you have seen before. Next is my friend Maroon's "Fernando Valley" sand-cast F-M from days of yore. Finally, and I forget who did the body, is my H16-66, using CLW trucks. The body is sand cast in one piece; the trucks are lost-wax CLW.
My favorite, the B-17 as built by FM!
I've got one FM diesel, in AT&SF of course.
Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:
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@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:
Very sharp !
i don’t have one of the MTH Premier TM engines .... yet ...
i saw the engineering prototype on the warehouse auction, but , got busy with family and missed the final bid 😢🤦♂️
The Lackawanna mixed their purchases, and were buyers of the Train Master. They were also used into the E-L era.
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@dPrasse posted:
Very nice, but I don't recall seeing any photos of Tuscan red 5 stripe PRR passenger units, only Brunswick green freight units,
so I'll pass.
Interesting thing, the PRR only had the four axle versions, so the PRR version is slightly inaccurate (I actually just looked it up to make sure). The FM C-Liners are very cool engines. I've mentioned before that I love unique and rare diesel locos. The FMs are some of my favorites.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:
As a point of continuing education...
- A "Trainmaster" is a mid-level company officer at a railroad.
- A "Train Master" is a Fairbanks Morse diesel.
And...for those of you who insist on shooting a HORIZONTAL SUBJECT (your locomotives) in VERTICAL VIDEO, please watch this:
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Here is a pic of my MTH Trainmaster that I picked up from my FIRST "Big E" experience:
Question, was your Train Master made from MTH's original tooling or their newest tooling?
I ask because this is mine from their latest tooling.
Ron
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@JET posted:Also used on submarines
https://ww2db.com/ship_spec.php?ship_id=864
The USS Ling was a museum in the 70s? 80s? I was surprised to see all the FM power in the engine room.
This popped up in my YouTube feed. The second link jumps right to the FM Opposed piston section
A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!
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!@WP posted:A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!
Sharp looking Locomotive .... I wish I could afford a model of every single scheme FM Locomotive model were made in ...
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The University that employed me use to have two large FM emergency generators on one of the campuses. It looked like they just took the trucks off the locomotives and set them on the floor! They needed a lot of TLC but did their job for decades...........but are gone now.
Jim K
@dPrasse posted:
Thank you. And yes, that’s an excellent book. My son got me a copy, and our edition has a picture of the real SP engine that our model represents.
@WP posted:A few years ago my son introduced me to the Southern Pacific FM H12-44 diesels. I fell in love with them and bought one, but the model was not exactly like the SP used them. We removed the overhanging roof of the rear of the cab and added the typical ash can lights that SP used at the time. This FM engine is one of my favorites!
@PRRronbh posted:
That beast looks beautiful...
Any idea what happened to the MTH Train Master tooling ?
Did mth keep it ?
Is the MTH tooling what Lionel used for their MTO engines ? I dont have one of the mth engines to compare to my MTO TM Demonstrators ...
I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.
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@dPrasse posted:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ilUCzz8nhsw
Great dPrasse! I love Niles Canyon. I enjoy seeing their H12-44 painted like the SP 1487. Thank you for sharing that video. Here’s a photo I took at Niles about 8 years ago.
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FM's first locomotive: Milwaukee Road H10-44 760:
Milwaukee Road H10-44 731 at the old Kansas City Railroad Museum in the River Quay district in 1977:
Alas, the 731 was without the prime mover. Whereabouts currently unknown.
Rusty
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@Number 90 posted:I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.
Thank you for sharing that , again ... id not seen that video , before ...
Fantastic scene and backdrop !
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@Rusty Traque posted:
I miss seeing 760 ... havent been to Union since we moved from Freeport to SC , 9yrs ago ....
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@Artie-DL&W posted:
FM made a real nice sales brochure covering the Lackawana deal...
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Photographed this gem at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA in 2019. A great little museum off the beaten path a bit.
For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's. Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs. I also have Train Masters though in O, HO, and N. My HO one is a Blue Box Athearn in PRR and was the first Athearn locomotive I ever received as a gift from my uncle when I was 9 or 10. The O locomotive is a Williams while the N is an Atlas. The Atlas has better detail.
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@Number 90 posted:I have posted this before, but it illustrates why Fairbanks-Morse locomotives always get my attention.
That is an excellent short video. I sure wouldn't mind seeing some more of that fantastic looking Layout'... That backdrop is a killing it'.. Very impressive'.. Thanks for re-posting'.. First time for me seeing this'....👀👍
@GG1 4877 posted:Photographed this gem at the Northwest Railway Museum in Snoqualmie, WA in 2019. A great little museum off the beaten path a bit.
For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's. Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs. I also have Train Masters though in O, HO, and N. My HO one is a Blue Box Athearn in PRR and was the first Athearn locomotive I ever received as a gift from my uncle when I was 9 or 10. The O locomotive is a Williams while the N is an Atlas. The Atlas has better detail.
No S scale Train Master ? 🤣
( i dont have one , either ..)
That CNJ TM is sharp...
I do have N scale FM power and a few pieces of HO ...
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@GG1 4877 posted:For FM models, I have a few AHM HO C Liners from the late 70's. Not particularly great models so I don't have photographs.
Well, here's the AHM C-Liners... Cutting off the front "platforms" improved the looks somewhat:
And the much better looking Life-Like Proto 2000's:
Rusty
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Here's a picture of my FM H12-44, all dirty and working hard spotting ore cars at the dock. I also have an undecorated Train Master of unknown origin. Possibly a Lionel Pennsy unit based on the holes drilled in its side for a train phone. Has TMCC and a smoke unit. Shell is cracked on the roof, will need repairs and then I'll paint it CNW colors .
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FM's are cool.
Oddly, I did not include them on my "Kansas City & Gulf" paper roster when I developed the roster back in the early-mid 1990s. This in spite of FM's of some sort being on 3 of my "Foundational Four" railroads I used to guide my decisions about my fictional KC&G. (i.e. "Foundational Four" = Frisco, Mop, Rock Island, KCS.)
FM's on my "Foundational Four" breaks down as follows:
* The Frisco had a small amount of FM switchers.
* The Rock Island had a few FM 4 axle road switchers.
* The KCS had two FM 4 axle road switchers.
I will say, though, the Frisco's were quite good looking in the black w/yellow strip schemes.
Frisco's "Full Stripe" scheme:
Or the Frisco's "Simplified" scheme:
However, the Orange and White scheme? Well, you be the judge:
Andre
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@third rail posted:Here's a picture of my FM H12-44, all dirty and working hard spotting ore cars at the dock. I also have an undecorated Train Master of unknown origin. Possibly a Lionel Pennsy unit based on the holes drilled in its side for a train phone. Has TMCC and a smoke unit. Shell is cracked on the roof, will need repairs and then I'll paint it CNW colors .
I borrowed and operated a friends Lionel H12-44 ... fun engine to operate , but , friend wasnt selling ... was just teasing me
@laming posted:FM's are cool.
Oddly, I did not include them on my "Kansas City & Gulf" paper roster when I developed the roster back in the early-mid 1990s. This in spite of FM's of some sort being on 3 of my "Foundational Four" railroads I used to guide my decisions about my fictional KC&G. (i.e. "Foundational Four" = Frisco, Mop, Rock Island, KCS.)
FM's on my "Foundational Four" breaks down as follows:
* The Frisco had a small amount of FM switchers.
* The Rock Island had a few FM 4 axle road switchers.
* The KCS had two FM 4 axle road switchers.
I will say, though, the Frisco's were quite good looking in the black w/yellow strip schemes.
Frisco's "Full Stripe" scheme:
Or the Frisco's "Simplified" scheme:
However, the Orange and White scheme? Well, you be the judge:
Andre
KCS had 6 Erie Builts , also ... an ABBA 8000hp set , initially ... then 2 more A units to build 2 ABA sets .... the 8000hp set had a problem of breaking couplers , mid train ... they needed better twist tues ti keep couplers closed , i guess 🤣
A few Frisco FM ads in my collection ...
my mth Frisco H10-44 ,
and a RI FM ad ....
The RI did test Train Master Demonstrators , fall of 53 ... an interesting what-if !
I do think the simplified Frisco is the sharpest of the 3 ...
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dPrasse:
Right you are!
I totally forgot about the KCS Erie-built road units.
Andre
dPrasse:
Yes, KCS had a great looking "original" schemes.
Never really cared for the all-red, but I do like the "Blonde" scheme.
In regards to the KCS FM Erie-Built's, LOVE the "Chop Top" versions!
Here's a pic shot by my late friend, of a Chop Top in a consist at a location that's just 14 miles from where I live:
So cool! IF someone made a good looking, good running, plastic model of a Chop Top (UP had them, too) in HO, I could almost guarantee there would be a leased Chop Top unit operating on my KC&G!
Andre
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Interesting to me to see that Fairbanks Morse is still in Beloit. I have to drive by next time i am there. https://www.fairbanksmorse.com/contact
Picked up a caboose for my "Museum RR " H10-44 FM engine ...