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Hello BxCrSun fans...well here it is closing out another week.  Today, I decided to post at two ends of the "time line" spectrum.

First the Lionel 1719 Boxcar.  This car derived from the Lionel / Ives 9" lithographed boxcar of 1931-32 .  After being offered under the Ives name in 1931 and 32 the Ives name was retired by Lionel but the 9" lithographed freight cars were continued.  The car was renumbered from 1709 to 1719 in 1933 and re- issued as "Lionel" vice "Ives".  The word "Lionel" replaced "Ives" in the black oval on the right.  Note, this car was always a Lionel design and was produced in Irvington but it had been marketed in '31-'32 as Ives after Lionel took over the Ives assets upon their bankruptcy.  It is usually referred to as an "Ives transition car". This particular version with Nickel journals and ladder dates from 1935 -1936 and was available until 1940, although the truck mounting on the frame was altered in 1936 (this car has the earlier frame) .  The same car, but with brass journals and ladder was available from 1933-35.  Mr Cowen, never liked the lithograph process, felt it was lower quality than his normal enameled finishes...BUT this was the depth of the depression, Lionel Corp was in the red, and he needed low price products.  So although this car and its stable mates were never catalogued  it was offered in a few low price sets throughout the 1930's.

Lionel 1719 BoxcarLIonel 1719 Boxcar 2

Now shifting gears to a time period some 63 years later, we have this example of what has become known as "Modern Marx".  This company licensed the Marx name / tooling / and residual assets and began to make trains in the 1990's. They lasted from 1993-2004.   This particular car was available for sale in 1998. Note the Marx "scale" type trucks, and although the gauge of the trucks is "O" in fact the scale of these cars, like the other Marx scale cars is 3/16" to the foot or "S".  This car even has the Marx "pickle fork" couplers although in metal not plastic as were the Marx versions for most of the postwar period.  This car is 7 1/4 " long and has sliding "doors" although the door itself is just a flat square of sheet metal.

Modern Marx MKT Refr

Well that's it for me BxCrSun fans, hope all have a happy and healthy week

Don

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Well here it is another Sunday, sunny for a change here in Texas after a full week of rain.  So expecting to be tasked by the foreman for yard work, I thought I better get my post in ...

Here is the American Flyer 1115 (note further discussion) Automobile box car from 1921-1929.  However, this car has an unusual aspect to it.  IAW Greenberg's Guide to Prewar American Flyer (1997 Revised Edition, pg 164), some of these 8 wheel cars were assembled with bodies intended for the 4 wheel car (AF 1112) and were delivered with 8 wheel frames and a 4 wheel body.  That is the case here, this car should be labeled 1115 but in fact has a 4 wheel body (1112).  The lithography is identical except for the number. Hey these guys were making toys (and profit) not collectables.  This car, with its odd number, shows no signs of being disassembled after manufacture, so I am assuming its one of the oddities.

AF lll2-lll5 Automobile Boxcar-side viewAF 1112-1115 Auto Box -end view

Following the lithographed cars, came the enameled cars.  In both 4 and 8 wheel variants with, again, bodies that were identical.  This is the American Flyer #3012  4 wheel boxcar from 1930-35. This one has an inspectors stamp on the bottom of the frame, which dates it to the earlier part of that period.  It has Ni journals and brass trim (ladders and hand brake). The "AFL" stamped on either side of the door is the only other marking.

AF 3012 Box - side viewAF 3012 Box - end view

Well that is my input for BxCrSun this week.  I hope everyone has a happy and healthy week.

Best Wishes

Don

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Well here it is "Box Car Sunday" again...and I have just acquired another early American Flyer Box Car, although it is labeled, "automobile car".  Last week I posted the red liveried 1115 box car (although it is lithographed 1112) and this week I have the yellow lithographed 1115 (numbered correctly) car.  The orange rib roof dates it from 1927 the car also came with a green ribbed roof.   These cars didn't get "add on" ladders and brake wheels over the lithographed ones until 1929 so this one is from the period 1927-1928.

AF Automobile Car

Best wishes everyone and "Happy Mother's Day"

Don

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This is one rarely seen as a model. Rock Island celebrated its 100'th anniversary in 1952 and bought some new, welded steel body boxcars from ACF.   For  a while they carried this big anniversary logo. It was gradually removed as cars went though the shops for repairs and repaints.   As a boy, I saw one at the St. George Yard on Staten Island with a shine on its paint.  It took a while to make the model from a 1970's Atlas kit and following a prototype photo in the1953 edition of Car Builder's Cyclopedia as a "Covid Lockdown Project" last year.  Champion decals ran a set for this car many years ago.  They worked just fine!

                          186 S

S. Islander

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Well Happy BcCarSun folks, I have certainly enjoyed the pictures today...a drab and rainy day here in central Texas.  My post today is a real "find" for me as I hunt down the Marx "deluxe" plastic freight cars.  Marx made 3 lines of cars a) lightweight - 4 wheel cars with the axles just fastened to the body of the car car 2) medium cars- 8 wheel metal frames but the same body as the lightweight just fastened to the frame via a tab on one end and a screw on the other and finally 3) Deluxe cars- these had much the same body design as the other two but with added features and an increase in length from 7 3/4" to 8 1/2".  Most obviously, in the boxcar it came with sliding doors as opposed to cast in door detail.  The deluxe cars were sold in Marx's best sets destined for top outlets like Sears and Wards and were also available separately. They were made  from about 1955 until the mid 1960's although a few lasted until the early 1970's when Quaker Oats took over Marx.

Today I have the 1956 UP Deluxe boxcar.  In tuscan and white it sports metal frame, 8 wheel (type g) trucks, automatic couplers, and of course the deluxe sliding door.  This is a reasonably scarce car, made one year only, and it appeared in the 1955 Marx catalogue, so I have been chasing it for awhile.   So here is my latest find...

Here it is using my best lighting so you can see the detail of the printing on the car.  I really like the slogan..."Road of the Streamliners".

Marx UP Deluxe Boxcar

Here she is sitting on the outer main line of the L&S waiting to be switched into a train.

Marx UP Deluxe Boxcar 2

Well happy Boxcar Sunday everyone, hope you have a happy and healthy week

Don

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Well Happy BcCarSun folks, I have certainly enjoyed the pictures today...a drab and rainy day here in central Texas.  My post today is a real "find" for me as I hunt down the Marx "deluxe" plastic freight cars.  Marx made 3 lines of cars a) lightweight - 4 wheel cars with the axles just fastened to the body of the car car 2) medium cars- 8 wheel metal frames but the same body as the lightweight just fastened to the frame via a tab on one end and a screw on the other and finally 3) Deluxe cars- these had much the same body design as the other two but with added features and an increase in length from 7 3/4" to 8 1/2".  Most obviously, in the boxcar it came with sliding doors as opposed to cast in door detail.  The deluxe cars were sold in Marx's best sets destined for top outlets like Sears and Wards and were also available separately. They were made  from about 1955 until the mid 1960's although a few lasted until the early 1970's when Quaker Oats took over Marx.

Today I have the 1956 UP Deluxe boxcar.  In tuscan and white it sports metal frame, 8 wheel (type g) trucks, automatic couplers, and of course the deluxe sliding door.  This is a reasonably scarce car, made one year only, and it appeared in the 1955 Marx catalogue, so I have been chasing it for awhile.   So here is my latest find...

Here it is using my best lighting so you can see the detail of the printing on the car.  I really like the slogan..."Road of the Streamliners".

Marx UP Deluxe Boxcar

Here she is sitting on the outer main line of the L&S waiting to be switched into a train.

Marx UP Deluxe Boxcar 2

Well happy Boxcar Sunday everyone, hope you have a happy and healthy week

Don

Don. Thanks for sharing the pics and stories on theses cars.this is a beautiful car I always enjoy reading your post.

Well BxCarSun fans, we seem to be a little light today, last post is dated 5/17 so this one of mine is the first for this new week.  So here goes.  Last week I posted what Marx collectors tend to call a "deluxe" boxcar, which had additional features over just normal 8 wheel cars.  This week, I am posting two "medium" Marx boxcars, which are slightly shorter than the deluxe and do not have sliding doors.  A little like the Lionel plug door boxcar line.  These boxcars came in several liveries and were included as parts of many of the Marx lineup of sets.  They are colorful and interesting but less realistic than the deluxe line.  They did have a good amount of cast in detail and they look good on the rails.  The B&O livery shown was the most popular followed by a Santa Fe version that came in yellow. They were available from the middle 50's up until the last of the "Marx " trains in the early 70's although that was Quaker Oats producing Marx trains under license not the original Marx Company.

Marx B&O boxcars

Well Happy Sunday everyone...best wishes for a happy and healthy week

Don

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Bungling Brothers Circus has come to to the city of Christopolis. The circus' boxcars are at the Terrryville team track to unload.

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The next two photos are of the elephant transport car. Though, because of the lack of lighting in the car's interior, it is difficult to see one of the elephants by the opened door. The tusk is visible. The wooden floor of the box car is covered with straw. There is also a bale of hay on the floor for the elephant to eat.

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