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I recently bought a Lionel 6-24595 Breakdown B unit based on info on a Lionel site product info page. It states that the unit has and I quote,  "Multi Whistle effect simulates blasts at different air pressures, creating a realistic varity of sounds with each press of the WHISTLE button." Now, reading the instruction manual it says nothing about how to access a Whistle/ Horn in this case. It does say in the Conventional operation section, "While the B-unit receives HORN commands to stop and start the breakdown sequence, because it is a B-unit, it does not produce the horn sound.  I am obviously missing something. Is there even a horn and bell in the Breakdown B-unit ?  If so, how do I activate them in the Command mode ?   j

Link to product info page.  

http://www.lionel.com/products...-unit-333-b-6-24595/

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I don't have this unit, but the horn/whistle conventional control can be used to rhythmically tap out "codes" that is interpreted by the units. In this case, your B unit seems to indicate that the horn/whistle control can be utilized to trigger air blast sounds. When used in conjunction with an A unit, it may ignore the selected rhythm and make no additional noise, but just hunkering down on the horn/whistle button will cause the A unit to emit a horn sound (and the B unit will make no additional noise).

Details on conventional and command information can be found within the owners manual:

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/72-4595-250.pdf

Mine doesn’t have horn sounds. I don’t know if Lionel ever reissued these in Legacy. I got mine some time ago when my LHS blew them out, so I’m guessing they must’ve not been popular. IMHO, like the hot box refers, the novelty factor of the program sequence gets old after awhile, but these are cool to have nonetheless. I frequently use mine in ABBA consists for engine sound reinforcement and rarely run the breakdown sequence.

Rich

JohnActon posted:

I recently bought a Lionel 6-24595 Breakdown B unit based on info on a Lionel site product info page. It states that the unit has and I quote,  "Multi Whistle effect simulates blasts at different air pressures, creating a realistic varity of sounds with each press of the WHISTLE button." Now, reading the instruction manual it says nothing about how to access a Whistle/ Horn in this case. It does say in the Conventional operation section, "While the B-unit receives HORN commands to stop and start the breakdown sequence, because it is a B-unit, it does not produce the horn sound.  I am obviously missing something. Is there even a horn and bell in the Breakdown B-unit ?  If so, how do I activate them in the Command mode ?   j

Link to product info page.  

http://www.lionel.com/products...-unit-333-b-6-24595/

Ran a friends SuperBass unit last night and the most annoying thing was Horn and Bell sounds from it!

Would have preferred just engine and other sounds from it.

Getting my 2nd hotbox, this one in REA green. To go behind,in front of ? milk car in an heavyweight consist. I remember from my 1st one yes,very cool and why no sequence control. Will be installing mini commander in this one! Thanks goes to grjohn for that one! To cjack, I'd like to be able to duplicate through the mini. Will probably use green led also but put it near a fixture as some imaginable indication. 

Was swapping sound boards out on the Breakdown B and found that only when the original RS5.5 board was in place would the couplers fire. The Breakdown B uses a RCV1 radio board instead of the R2LC.  It would seem that the coupler trip function was moved to the Railsound 5.5 board or to the motherboard as I see a pair of triacs on the MB.  I am assuming in order to keep coupler function I must keep the RS5.5 board. My question is can I swap the ROM and PIC from a RS4 with F3 sounds in place of the Breakdown chips. My guess is that it should work fine but I am certain several of you know this stuff far better than I do and I just hate to fry boards and chips. One more thought I have is that coupler function is controlled by the PIC in which case I have to choose between coupler function and the sounds I want.  j

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