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I bought this beautiful Legacy ES44AC (Lionel number 2233492) Canadian Veterans Edition a week ago. it has less than 15 minutes of runtime on it and when I started it up today, I noticed I could not get it to decouple from the car behind it. Hmmm…

so after shutting it down and removing it from the track then turning it over, I see that a wire has broken going to the electro coupler for some bizarre reason. (See pics).

It worked fine every other time I used it but now it has separated overnight (?) for no obvious reason.
My local hobby shop is a Lionel repair station, but I am hesitant to take it in because I wonder if I can fix it myself.

i’m sure it would be fixed under warranty but it is a pain to pack it back up, make the half hour drive there, leave it etc. then go back to get it. What would you do?

my concern doing it myself is I don’t have enough hands to hold the wires together, hold the solder, and hold the soldering iron. Do you have any recommendations?

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No diagram for recent release, but this is an older one and the coupler would seem to be plugged into the truck via the white molex connector. I dont know at what point they started doing it this way. I honestly dont like it. I guess it makes service easier, but the wires are too long and they snag and stuff like this happens. Its worth twisting the truck off to look, as it takes less than 10 seconds. Turn the truck 90 degrees and it will unlock and come off.  Just keep track of the little spider that connects the motor and worm gear together.  The coupler itself just unscrews with the visible screw underneath it. If its not plugged to the truck, then you'll probably need to pull the shell to find the other end of the wires and you might as well then send it in for warranty repair.

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@Raven87 posted:

Thanks guys. The front coupler works fine - does that mean the board is ok?

No, the two coupler outputs are separate.  I'm not saying the board is bad, I'm just saying it's a real possibility with a floating coupler wire.  Truthfully, if it were mine, I'd fix the wire, but I do that for a living.  If you're at all unsure, sending it back is the best way to address the problem.

Raven, I believe you can fix this easy.  In your photos the red arrow points to the insulated wire that comes from a 2 pin molex under the shell that is not accessible with the rear truck removed.  

Up and to the right (1:00 position) is the wire lead from the electro coupler.  Straight up from your arrow is the coupler screw (Phillips washer head). Simply remove the screw to give yourself some room to move the coupler and provide slack.   Now solder up those two wires.

Before beginning measure resistance from black lead to ground/chassis.  If 0 ohms then you won’t need to insulate your solder joint.  

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I received my new 2021 UP Veranda and out of the box the coupler wire was broken and hanging down. I sent it back to Lionel. Got it back and a week later the wire was broken again and sparking on track when I noticed it. I think the coupler wire on my engine was short and would get pulled when turning or picking engine up to put on track. I soldered it myself. Nothing got shorted out.

New update – the repaired locomotive was supposedly shipped and I was to receive it on December 14. But - As of today, December 22, it has not come in and the UPS tracking shows that it was Concorde, went to Eastern Pennsylvania for some reason, and then the last communication was that it was being returned to the shipper. No explanation given.
This was on December 19.

I just talked with Lionel customer service moments ago and explained that I wanted my locomotive and that they should get it to me as soon as possible or replace it asap.
Bottom line it has not been returned, yet.

Wow. 🤷‍♂️

@Raven87 posted:

New update – the repaired locomotive was supposedly shipped and I was to receive it on December 14. But - As of today, December 22, it has not come in and the UPS tracking shows that it was Concorde, went to Eastern Pennsylvania for some reason, and then the last communication was that it was being returned to the shipper. No explanation given.
This was on December 19.

I just talked with Lionel customer service moments ago and explained that I wanted my locomotive and that they should get it to me as soon as possible or replace it asap.
Bottom line it has not been returned, yet.

Wow. 🤷‍♂️

Hi Steve, it is the busiest time of year for shipping, and there are always weather related delays as well, so hang tight and it will show up. I always worry about porch thefts....

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