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George S posted:

Bought this to restore. After inspection, it looks like it is going to be a bigger job than anticipated. I thought it was just removing the wood glued to the roof an repainting it.

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Now I see that the frame was hand painted and some paint got on the litho.

George

You can do it George!

I’m more hopeful today. I got the paint off the litho. I used Goof Off. Not for the faint of heart as it is an aggressive solvent. Mineral Spirits was taking too much rubbing and the friction was damaging the litho. 

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The trucks were sloppily painted black from the outside. They were originally tan.

The ladders must have been painted black too. They were originally brass. The brass is gone now except for a few spots.

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There is even paint on the journals!

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George

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Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

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navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

These are beautiful! I love the black top. It really sets off the orange and red, unlike the gray.

Enjoy! 

George

Picked these guys up betweenthursday and Sunday:

1st up- Ives: Ives Railway Lines #52 Parlor Car. Didn’t realize how small this was compared to my Ives 551 Chair Car, 63 gravel cars, or Bing 523 NYC  Coach And Bing 529 PRR obs. Still, I like the car:

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next up, Märklin 17280 postal/baggage car(lighted- which makes me feel it was modified in addition to the paint being semi-immaculate):

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Fiinally, a surprise pick-up at a LHS that rarely  sells Tinplate or anything German. Was happy to come across it. Here we have a Bub 413e cloackwork and 62541 hopper:88C04340-B9A4-49D6-8EC4-45201AB36B09467E5153-5618-4CAE-B6C4-379744357DAE

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The size of the Loco and Hopper are closer to OO than S or O. That said, they fit on some Sakai 2 rail track as well on O- gauge track. Any info on the last 2 would be appreciated. I know Karl Bub has an I’ll-fated venture into S Gauge but these don’t seem to be of that sort.

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A new American Flyer O gauge accessory, and a question about brushes on Flyer O gauge. This colorful yellow lithographed girder bridge has the rather whimsical inscription "Sold & Known Everywhere-East-West-North-South and Foreign". Also newly arrived, a Flyer 423 steamer is seen above. 

A question about Flyer brushes- when I got this locomotive it didn't run. Applying a little pressure on one of the brushes got things to start turning, so I took off the wires and removed the tiny little outer cap (that rests in the end of the spring) and then the spring inside each brush tube. I then turned the engine on its side and gave it a few taps expecting some carbon brushes (or remains thereof) to fall out. Nothing came out. I tried a little lifting from the commutator side using a flat rule, but nothing comes out. So I re-tensioned the one spring that was obviously weak, put it back together and it started running fine. Since it started running I didn't want to explore further and take off the brush plate. Question- what's in those brush tubes? A conventional carbon brush? a brass one?

Thanks!

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navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

Bob, that’s a lot of cars. What are you going to pull them with?

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Yorba Linda, CA

Left Coast, Home of the lunatics

Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

Bob, that’s a lot of cars. What are you going to pull them with?

Steve

Steve,

I had Jim match the paint colors to those used on my tri-color Milwaukee Road "Super" 381.  With it's two motors and weight, it should pull several of the cars if not all of them.  If not, and I still need more power, I will couple to the consist my other two-motor Milwaukee Road "Super" 381 in the UP livery.  If that is still not enough power, I will add my tri-color, two-motor Milwaukee Road  381 up front.  If that won't pull the entire 10-car consist, I  might even add my all-black Milwaukee Road Brute to the train.  If that isn't enough power, I am open to suggestions!

Bob Nelson

navy.seal posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

Bob, that’s a lot of cars. What are you going to pull them with?

Steve

Steve,

I had Jim match the paint colors to those used on my tri-color Milwaukee Road "Super" 381.  With it's two motors and weight, it should pull several of the cars if not all of them.  If not, and I still need more power, I will couple to the consist my other two-motor Milwaukee Road "Super" 381 in the UP livery.  If that is still not enough power, I will add my tri-color, two-motor Milwaukee Road  381 up front.  If that won't pull the entire 10-car consist, I  might even add my all-black Milwaukee Road Brute to the train.  If that isn't enough power, I am open to suggestions!

Bob Nelson

Bob, if that is not enough power, you accidentally welded the wheels of the passenger cars to the track.  Watch out for a coupler breaking and those beast engines speeding around the track! 

George

SAVED FROM THE JUNK BOX.  I bought a junk box a few month ago and it contained a 92 floodlight but it was missing the lights and the paint was starting to flake. I tried selling it for parts but no one was interested so... I bought a couple of Marx floodlights and adapted them to the 92 to give me a 4 light tower, and of course I had to repaint it. It came out pretty good for a junk item.DSCN6202DSCN6203

Above is how it looked when I started.

Now it looks better.

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navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

One of the Olympian Hiawatha cars in the 10-car consist that Jim has built for me is a crew dormitory car.  This has gotten me thinking about what life must have been like for the crews assigned to the Olympian Hiawatha and other transcontinental trains.  Did they make back to back to back runs on the train or did they have time off between trains?  It must have been a hard life. 

Does anyone know the title of a good book which discusses the life of crew members working aboard a transcontinental train?

Bob Nelson

This finally arrived today from Ireland. For awhile, I thought customs in NYC was going to keep it.  It’s a large Marklin pedestrian bridge. 

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It needs a little cleaning and there are some places where there are little glue circles from figures being positioned. 

George

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George S posted:

This finally arrived today from Ireland. For awhile, I thought customs in NYC was going to keep it.  ...

I'm not familiar with the customs process.  I've bought a handful of things from Europe/GB/Ireland without incident, but don't know if it's just been dumb luck.

What happened, how did you resolve it, and any tips for avoiding it in the future?

Thanks.

George S posted:

This finally arrived today from Ireland. For awhile, I thought customs in NYC was going to keep it.  It’s a large Marklin pedestrian bridge. 

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It needs a little cleaning and there are some places where there are little glue circles from figures being positioned. 

George

I’ve bought a few things from that guy, he seems to have a lot of interesting items.

Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

Dennis Holler posted:
George S posted:

This finally arrived today from Ireland. For awhile, I thought customs in NYC was going to keep it.  It’s a large Marklin pedestrian bridge. 

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It needs a little cleaning and there are some places where there are little glue circles from figures being positioned. 

George

I’ve bought a few things from that guy, he seems to have a lot of interesting items.

He was great to work with. Glad I inquired about shipping because it was quoting some ridiculous amount. 

George

Mallard4468 posted:
George S posted:

This finally arrived today from Ireland. For awhile, I thought customs in NYC was going to keep it.  ...

I'm not familiar with the customs process.  I've bought a handful of things from Europe/GB/Ireland without incident, but don't know if it's just been dumb luck.

What happened, how did you resolve it, and any tips for avoiding it in the future?

Thanks.

I haven't had many problems. I bought something at the same time from England and it came through Philly. It hardly even stopped at the port. This one hit the NYC ISC on April 24 and sat there until Monday this week. It said "processed through ISC NYC" and then nothing. I actually went on the US Postal Service website and filled out a lost / missing item report. I read someone else did that and it worked. It could be just coincidence, but it moved almost immediately to "Arrived at QUEENS NY DISTRIBUTION CENTER". I read online that sometimes customs has questions about an item and just sits on it. Providing the info in the missing item report to the USPS gets it going. No guarantees though.

George

George S posted:
I haven't had many problems. I bought something at the same time from England and it came through Philly. It hardly even stopped at the port. This one hit the NYC ISC on April 24 and sat there until Monday this week. It said "processed through ISC NYC" and then nothing. I actually went on the US Postal Service website and filled out a lost / missing item report. I read someone else did that and it worked. It could be just coincidence, but it moved almost immediately to "Arrived at QUEENS NY DISTRIBUTION CENTER". I read online that sometimes customs has questions about an item and just sits on it. Providing the info in the missing item report to the USPS gets it going. No guarantees though.

Thanks for the info.  Glad to hear it wasn't anything serious.

I stayed at a B&B in Wales and learned that the owner was a train nut (mint Triang from his youth).  He said that another guest from America once sent him a box of toy train stuff after his visit.  The sender labeled the box "train parts".  Customs thought they were parts for a real (not toy) train and charged a duty of over 100 GBP. 

Mallard4468 posted:
George S posted:
I haven't had many problems. I bought something at the same time from England and it came through Philly. It hardly even stopped at the port. This one hit the NYC ISC on April 24 and sat there until Monday this week. It said "processed through ISC NYC" and then nothing. I actually went on the US Postal Service website and filled out a lost / missing item report. I read someone else did that and it worked. It could be just coincidence, but it moved almost immediately to "Arrived at QUEENS NY DISTRIBUTION CENTER". I read online that sometimes customs has questions about an item and just sits on it. Providing the info in the missing item report to the USPS gets it going. No guarantees though.

Thanks for the info.  Glad to hear it wasn't anything serious.

I stayed at a B&B in Wales and learned that the owner was a train nut (mint Triang from his youth).  He said that another guest from America once sent him a box of toy train stuff after his visit.  The sender labeled the box "train parts".  Customs thought they were parts for a real (not toy) train and charged a duty of over 100 GBP. 

The UK government charges  " Value Added Tax" on all "luxury goods", so food and clothes, for instance don't attract VAT, but toy trains do.

Cheers, Mark

 

Japanese MO streamliner. This colorful new arrival is about 8.5" long overall. It's actually a wind-up floor toy but it seems to fit well with the tinplate theme. Can't find much information on this piece, it's definitely neat looking! In the rear corner is a maker's mark "MO" inside a diamond, along with "Made in Japan". The front has a reddish marble for a headlight. 

The MO is posed alongside my Wells "Golden Streak" and a few other miscellaneous smaller streamliners (there's also a Lionel scale Hudson in the background).

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navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

Here are some pictures of some of the other cars. Set ships today. Seem to have missed the RPO car, but similar in look to the dorm car.  Overload?

Jim

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Dennis Holler posted:

255E for $35.  Straight frame is worth the cost alone!

ebay UK 255E

Think I have enough parts to put this one back together..

Now that's a challenge = but doable and will be a very nice loco. I suspect the motor might even run after doused in a vat of oil.

Jim

Jim Waterman



 

navy.seal posted:
navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

One of the Olympian Hiawatha cars in the 10-car consist that Jim has built for me is a crew dormitory car.  This has gotten me thinking about what life must have been like for the crews assigned to the Olympian Hiawatha and other transcontinental trains.  Did they make back to back to back runs on the train or did they have time off between trains?  It must have been a hard life. 

Does anyone know the title of a good book which discusses the life of crew members working aboard a transcontinental train?

Bob Nelson

Bob - did you check the MILW group on groups.io? Still a bunch of former MILW employees and lots of stories out there. I'm sure that info could be had with a well placed question.

Jim

Jim Waterman



 

Jim Waterman posted:
Dennis Holler posted:

255E for $35.  Straight frame is worth the cost alone!

ebay UK 255E

Think I have enough parts to put this one back together..

Now that's a challenge = but doable and will be a very nice loco. I suspect the motor might even run after doused in a vat of oil.

Jim

It's definitely not the worst I ever found!!

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You may remember this old 260E I bought years ago, paid $50 for it along with an AF STD piper tender.  Someday..... lol

Maybe I should just ratrod the 255E lol

Dennis Holler If its old and broke, I like it

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navy.seal posted:
navy.seal posted:

Jim Waterman just told me that he has finished the 10-car Standard Gauge Olympian Hiawatha set I ordered from him.  Each car in the consist is unique and is based on the original Milwaukee Road drawings.   The paint scheme Jim applied is the simplified 1948 tri-color (orange, maroon, black) livery with the colors of the paint matched to the colors used on the MTH/Lionel tri-color Milwaukee Road Super 381 Bipolar engine, which will be the primary locomotive I plan to use to pull the set.  Attached below is a photo of the set's Standard Gauge Skytop Sleeper observation car.

Waterman cars

I will post more photos of the other cars as soon as I have them.

Bob Nelson

One of the Olympian Hiawatha cars in the 10-car consist that Jim has built for me is a crew dormitory car.  This has gotten me thinking about what life must have been like for the crews assigned to the Olympian Hiawatha and other transcontinental trains.  Did they make back to back to back runs on the train or did they have time off between trains?  It must have been a hard life. 

Does anyone know the title of a good book which discusses the life of crew members working aboard a transcontinental train?

Bob Nelson

Bob - did you check the MILW group on groups.io? Still a bunch of former MILW employees and lots of stories out there. I'm sure that info could be had with a well placed question.

Jim

Jim,

groups.io?  I am not familiar with that site.

Bob

 

started tinkering with the Marx 898 shell that was in the box of goodies Greg sent me. I had gotten a  Saki motor in another deal, and it fits like a glove. Even had a Wedge tender sitting on a storage track. Does anyone know if there is a source for Sakai motor parts? One of the brushes is missing...they are rectangular shaped, and one of the brush springs is MIA as well. I filed a regular brush down enough to fit the brush holder, and the motor runs pretty good.898, came with a SR or DR motor 1946-52PTDC0001M

Dave

 

 

 

Saving Tinplate One Piece at a Time

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George S posted:
John H. Shetler posted:
George S posted:

Bought this to restore. After inspection, it looks like it is going to be a bigger job than anticipated. I thought it was just removing the wood glued to the roof an repainting it.

6E72E45E-5463-4857-BB92-38A6C73E6260

Now I see that the frame was hand painted and some paint got on the litho.

George

You can do it George!

I’m more hopeful today. I got the paint off the litho. I used Goof Off. Not for the faint of heart as it is an aggressive solvent. Mineral Spirits was taking too much rubbing and the friction was damaging the litho. 

4015E31A-32D3-47AF-8308-40397C548B30

The trucks were sloppily painted black from the outside. They were originally tan.

The ladders must have been painted black too. They were originally brass. The brass is gone now except for a few spots.

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There is even paint on the journals!

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George

Ahhh, that’s better!

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I had to remove paint from all four sides of each journal too.

George

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Steamer posted:

yeah but imagine the fun some kid had slopping all that paint on there. At least he didn't blow them up like Little Gomez would have.

I hope he had fun, but he clearly lost interest... Glad he didn't use an M80 or Kerosene like we did on Matchbox cars!

George

Repaired this broken lionel dealer display semaphore that had broken at the point that rested in the fulcrum, basically in two pieces. Carefully delaminates the fiber board and preserved the printed parts and glued in a core of 1/4” plywood to replace frayed fiberboard I removed. Now making stand for it6B95341D-C81A-4A72-93DD-10F24AE09981

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BEBC4BE5-12E3-4EAA-BD66-86D1F0A9874925603925-5FDC-4951-B088-78C16A09A792711A88B2-B67F-4B63-B6EE-E7FD037C407F9C2D9C4E-4C8A-4621-B7A6-F58793E4EEA0FCC9B87E-CA9B-4245-94D7-CDE71FEDE869That is very cool Daniel, i’ve always likes the ETS trains, much like an o gauge Marklin Maxi. Here are my two newest Bing cars, the little pullman is very nice and clean. I’m bidding on a lot that has an AF 1117 caboose roof and cupola, I would use the cupola and make a new roof for this Bing caboose.

 

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Dennis Holler posted:

BEBC4BE5-12E3-4EAA-BD66-86D1F0A9874925603925-5FDC-4951-B088-78C16A09A792711A88B2-B67F-4B63-B6EE-E7FD037C407F9C2D9C4E-4C8A-4621-B7A6-F58793E4EEA0FCC9B87E-CA9B-4245-94D7-CDE71FEDE869That is very cool Daniel, i’ve always likes the ETS trains, much like an o gauge Marklin Maxi. Here are my two newest Bing cars, the little pullman is very nice and clean. I’m bidding on a lot that has an AF 1117 caboose roof and cupola, I would use the cupola and make a new roof for this Bing caboose.

 

@Dennis Holler very nice Bing pick ups! The little Pullman certainly is very nice and clean. Really like the Pennsy 8 wheel caboose. Haven't picked up any Bing cars with 8 wheel trucks yet, but on my to do list. Again- awesome finds!

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