Jim Waterman posted:
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:

I have a project that’s been on hold for quite a while because I needed a bunch of 500 series trucks. Problem solved at today’s TTOS meet.

Steve

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Yikes - bunchatrucks. What are  you up to now, Steve?

Jim

Jim, I have 7 Osisik Shops repro Ives circus cars with no trucks. This is way more than I needed, but for $80.00 for the lot,  I couldn't pass them up.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Yorba Linda, CA

Left Coast, Home of the lunatics

I forgot to mention that I also own some unfinished Osisek (sp?) circus wagons, which I purchased some years ago from Osisek's son. 

Should I add wheels/axles and paint them, just add wheels and axles, or leave them as they are now, i.e., without axles, wheels, and paint?

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Bob Nelson

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I forgot to mention that I also own some unfinished Osisek (sp?) circus wagons, which I purchased some years ago from Osisek's son. 

Should I add wheels/axles and paint them, just add wheels and axles, or leave them as they are now, i.e., without axles, wheels, and paint?

Osisek Shops Unpainted Ticket Wagons 002

Bob Nelson

Bob

My 7 cars are all unpainted. I'll leave them that way. I don't have any wagons for them.

Steve

Steve "Papa" Eastman

Yorba Linda, CA

Left Coast, Home of the lunatics

Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.

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John Smatlak posted:

Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.

Mystery factory building 2Mystery factory building 3Mystery factory buildingIves Gauge One 3240 and 3239Ives Gauge One 3240

That is really cool!!

Joe Gozzo

John Smatlak posted:

Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.

Mystery factory building 2Mystery factory building 3

John,

This is really cool and fascinating. I tried researching it but didn't find much online. The transmission wheels look German and pre-war, maybe Bing or Plank. The litho is very bright and colorful with lots of artistic detail. Bing made some animated tin litho figures that were driven by a toy steam engine. Those look similar to the metal shop figures on the inside of your toy. The wood base has a rich stain color. That does not look like other Bing wooden bases I have seen. The litho art reminds me of Ives on the outside. My guess is that this is late German, per-war. It's probably not Bing, because they would have marked it. Hopefully, someone will chime in on its origin. It's quite a find though! I would build a windup or electric powered "steam" unit to power the transmission wheel. Maybe you could add one of the Bing animated workers to drive off of that?

George

Yes, it's very nicely done.

I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no markings on those metal wheels?

John, did you find it on eBay?

Tom 

MNCW posted:

Yes, it's very nicely done.

I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no marking on those metal wheels?

John, did you find it on eBay?

Tom 

I would suspect the base is original as the item would need weight if connected to motors to turn the wheels, otherwise it would tip over too easy.

I realize that this thread is about buying or making things that are tinplate related.  So this post is a bit of a stretch, but today my wife and I closed on a new home for the "Northwoods Flyer Collection" - which is mainly all tinplate. 20191031_131643

This is where the collection and layout will be housed.20191031_12423220191031_12420920191031_124113A new adventure begins....

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Greg

                                                             

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MNCW posted:

Yes, it's very nicely done.

I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no marking on those metal wheels?

John, did you find it on eBay?

Tom 

To Tom’s point, the litho design does not look like it was made with the intent of being mounted to the base. The design runs onto the folds. Is it possible that this is a very well done, homemade piece from a promotional tin? There is a small black mark on the inside where the transmission shaft goes through the side of the tin, almost as if to mark with a magic marker where to drill the hole. The transmission wheels appear to be repainted off the shaft or never used. I searched a bunch of toy databases, because I really like this, but I came up empty.

George

To George's point - the other things that argue for a kitbashed item are the unfinished look of some of the edges, the way the base litho is just an extension of what should be the litho of the sides of the building, and the lack of bearings for the shaft to prevent wear to the mounting holes on the side of the building.  Even so, it is a neat looking item.

Dear tinplate gurus,

I got three huge boxes of treasure this week.  Among the stuff is a 1664 steamer, two tenders, #1679 and #2679 Baby Ruth cars, and cabooses #2672 and #2657.  In the collection was a very old box shown below.   I can't find any information on a 6066 tender.  Is that the tender for the 1664?

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The 2657 caboose is amazing.  Must be low mileage.

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Odenville Bill posted:

Dear tinplate gurus,

I got three huge boxes of treasure this week.  Among the stuff is a 1664 steamer, two tenders, #1679 and #2679 Baby Ruth cars, and cabooses #2672 and #2657.  In the collection was a very old box shown below.   I can't find any information on a 6066 tender.  Is that the tender for the 1664?

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The 2657 caboose is amazing.  Must be low mileage.

20191108_175138

 

According to Tandem Associates, the 6066T was a smaller version of the 2426W and was primarily used on the Scout sets in the early 1950s. Locomotives listed for 1952 were 2026, 2034 and 2037; and for 1953 the 1130, 2026 and 2037.

http://www.tandem-associates.c...ltenders03.htm#PAGE3

 

So today at Allentown I entered a new level of collecting and purchased a Boucher. I've been looking for one for years. But today I found one that called me. It's restored but it's still a Boucher. I looked at the price tag, and got sticker shock. The price was good, but even a well priced Boucher isn't cheap. Then I was told the price was flexible. My wife walked over and I mentioned this is the train I've been talking about for a while. She asked if they come up for sale often and I said no and actually I haven't seen one in person in years. She said well it's here now and if we can afford it, you should buy it. That my friends makes me a very lucky man, amongst other things of course

 

My Boucher 2500. If your a METCA member you'll see a full write up in a future Waybill.

Thanks,

Sam

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So today at Allentown I entered a new level of collecting and purchased a Boucher. I've been looking for one for years. But today I found one that called me. It's restored but it's still a Boucher. I looked at the price tag, and got sticker shock. The price was good, but even a well priced Boucher isn't cheap. Then I was told the price was flexible. My wife walked over and I mentioned this is the train I've been talking about for a while. She asked if they come up for sale often and I said no and actually I haven't seen one in person in years. She said well it's here now and if we can afford it, you should buy it. That my friends makes me a very lucky man, amongst other things of course 
 
 
 
My Boucher 2500. If your a METCA member you'll see a full write up in a future Waybill.
 
Thanks,
 
Sam
 
 
Congrats, Sam -saw that one on Josh's table - nice loco and yes very rare. Enjoy!
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Jim Waterman



 

Jim Waterman posted:
samdjr74 posted:
So today at Allentown I entered a new level of collecting and purchased a Boucher. I've been looking for one for years. But today I found one that called me. It's restored but it's still a Boucher. I looked at the price tag, and got sticker shock. The price was good, but even a well priced Boucher isn't cheap. Then I was told the price was flexible. My wife walked over and I mentioned this is the train I've been talking about for a while. She asked if they come up for sale often and I said no and actually I haven't seen one in person in years. She said well it's here now and if we can afford it, you should buy it. That my friends makes me a very lucky man, amongst other things of course 
 
 
 
My Boucher 2500. If your a METCA member you'll see a full write up in a future Waybill.
 
Thanks,
 
Sam
 
 
Congrats, Sam -saw that one on Josh's table - nice loco and yes very rare. Enjoy!
 
Jim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Thanks Jim, Josh had a few nice engines on his table. He always does lol. Now I just need to find some cars, might have to stop by Ed and Doug P's and see what they have

 

 

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I picked up this tin American Flyer switch tower on Saturday at the Allentown First Frost meet, just because I thought it was cool.

Lighted with manual bell, stands 9" tall. No number on it. I assume that it is large (standard) gauge and pre-war. I can't find another on ebay to learn about it, or it's value (I paid a big $14. on it, a real bargain IMHO).

Can anybody here tell me something about it?

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Lionelski posted:

I picked up this tin American Flyer switch tower on Saturday at the Allentown First Frost meet, just because I thought it was cool.

Lighted with manual bell, stands 9" tall. No number on it. I assume that it is large (standard) gauge and pre-war. I can't find another on ebay to learn about it, or it's value (I paid a big $14. on it, a real bargain IMHO).

Can anybody here tell me something about it?

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That is pre-war.  Could be used for Standard or O gauges.  It is number 214 the New Watchman's Switchtower.  I believe Flyer referred to it as "New" due to it having an electric light and the previous version #92, was unlighted.  

NWL

Lionelski posted:

NWL,

I just looked up #92 and #214, totally different. These models have a round base and a hanging bell.

Mine is still a mystery, I still can't find one like it anywhere on line. 

https://auctions.morphyauction...ies__-lot136554.aspx

Here are some AF switch towers that went for auction. One looks just like yours, and another has a round base. I believe the one with the round base is a #239.

George

George S posted:
Lionelski posted:

NWL,

I just looked up #92 and #214, totally different. These models have a round base and a hanging bell.

Mine is still a mystery, I still can't find one like it anywhere on line. 

https://auctions.morphyauction...ies__-lot136554.aspx

Here are some AF switch towers that went for auction. One looks just like yours, and another has a round base. I believe the one with the round base is a #239.

George

Actually, the early 214 New Switchtowers had round bases and looked exactly like the 92 Switchtowers, but had lights in them and punched out windows.  Lionelski's switchtower is a late variation 214, which has the square base and different mast/pole.

Flyer did not list an accessory that was numbered 239

Early 214

Greenberg's lists the following for #214

Cataloged 1934-1938

The 1934 and 1935 catalog description was different than the 1936 and later.  While all used the earlier picture, the later house was like that shown in the 1936 catalog and as part of the 2004/4004 set.

Version A - 10" high, green round base with square tapering post that has small lithographed house on top.  Lighted house, ladder from base to house, bell off base of house that has arm with weight.  

Version B - 1936-1938, rectangular base with square post and later building with interior light.

 

 

Nation Wide Lines posted:
George S posted:
Lionelski posted:

NWL,

I just looked up #92 and #214, totally different. These models have a round base and a hanging bell.

Mine is still a mystery, I still can't find one like it anywhere on line. 

https://auctions.morphyauction...ies__-lot136554.aspx

Here are some AF switch towers that went for auction. One looks just like yours, and another has a round base. I believe the one with the round base is a #239.

George

Actually, the early 214 New Switchtowers had round bases and looked exactly like the 92 Switchtowers, but had lights in them and punched out windows.  Lionelski's switchtower is a late variation 214, which has the square base and different mast/pole.

Flyer did not list an accessory that was numbered 239

Early 214

Greenberg's lists the following for #214

Cataloged 1934-1938

The 1934 and 1935 catalog description was different than the 1936 and later.  While all used the earlier picture, the later house was like that shown in the 1936 catalog and as part of the 2004/4004 set.

Version A - 10" high, green round base with square tapering post that has small lithographed house on top.  Lighted house, ladder from base to house, bell off base of house that has arm with weight.  

Version B - 1936-1938, rectangular base with square post and later building with interior light.

 

 

Mine looks like Version B BUT it has a square red base, not a rectangular green base. Version C ???

Lionelski posted:

I picked up this tin American Flyer switch tower on Saturday at the Allentown First Frost meet, just because I thought it was cool.

Lighted with manual bell, stands 9" tall. No number on it. I assume that it is large (standard) gauge and pre-war. I can't find another on ebay to learn about it, or it's value (I paid a big $14. on it, a real bargain IMHO).

Can anybody here tell me something about it?

IMG_5749

I like it

I’ve been building a set of Dorfan O Gauge freight, but I didn’t have an engine to pull them . I bought this. The ad says it runs. It may be restored. It came with a bunch of cars that I had, but my Indian Refinery tank car was not as nice as this one. It was great l, but this is near perfect. I also didn’t have the green PA reefer. I still need a yellow NYC reefer.

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George

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that's quite the problem you have there George, stuck with all those extra Dorfan cars.....last one I picked up was the UP car. And the last NYC refer I remember seeing was scratched up pretty bad and the asking was too high for the condition. Been keeping an eye out for the tanker too. Dear Santa......

PTDC0005

Dave

 

 

 

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as soon as I typed that I kept wondering about that yellow NYC car. So downstairs I went...and sure enough....

Dorfan [2)

pretty nice shape but the roof has a decent amount of scratches, and it didn't have couplers, so I added a pair of Lionel Latch couplers. Just shows how little time I had down there this summer.

Dave

 

 

 

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Steamer posted:

as soon as I typed that I kept wondering about that yellow NYC car. So downstairs I went...and sure enough....

Dorfan [2)

pretty nice shape but the roof has a decent amount of scratches, and it didn't have couplers, so I added a pair of Lionel Latch couplers. Just shows how little time I had down there this summer.

Nice! It’s good to be busy Dave! Your green one looks great! Mine has a little litho flaking and some paint loss on the roof. There was a yellow one on eBay with automatic couplers? I didn’t even know those existed. One needed a spring. It was over $100, so I passed. I’m sure one will come along...

I have three tank cars. I think I’ll keep the extra cars which I normally don’t do. One of the tank cars is a little rough, but still nice. I could let that one go. It sat on my wife’s garage sale table, and no one noticed it.

George

ECC5ADAC-B326-4F73-895E-27B8C164B23AAfter a rather rapid transit across the ditch this little Overpainted M1 loco turned up today. It’s had some tinkering done to it in the past as it runs strong but  at half the pace of my other M1 locos. On inspection the governor weight looks to be bigger then on my other locos.

Aim to live a simple and quiet  life! 

 

Theres no gauge like O gauge! 

 

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