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@Arne posted:

I've been planning a Bing layout for a long time. Only material from the last 5 years should be used for this, i.e. only from the area 1928-32.

This also includes all the plain buildings. A lot is already there, but some has been on the search list for a long time.

The rare company office has been on the list for a long time, but it's almost impossible to find.

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Now there was a ruin to be found on Ebay, just the bare building.

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So everything had to be rebuilt.

Pyramid shaped roof



Chimney pipe folded



Canopy made of self-made corrugated iron



For this purpose, press jaws were manufactured for a combination machine

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Base itself deep pressed

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A tool suitable for a workshop press was built for this purpose

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Supports for the canopy



Chimney head soldered in three parts



Tinplate work finished, only paint is missing.

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Arne

Wow - that's crazy cool. Never thought about using my 3 in one as a forming tool - are you using thin gauge tinplated steel for all these parts - what gauge? Really like your formed dome too, great work. Can you do some clerestory roofs for me??

Jim

About a month ago I made a post about the completion of a series of three New Marx C&NW cattle cars.  Recently I was able to complete another series of three cars (addendum: well not quite...see Arne's post below) - the Bing made-for-the-American-market single dome tank cars.

  To the best of my knowledge the Peerless Tank Line, was the only one ever featured in any of the American market Bing catalogs.

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  As noted in the catalog cut, the tank has a brass cap which unscrews so you can fill the car with liquid if you wish.  The other two cars are the United States Leather Company and the S.P.C.A.L. Oil car.  I've owned the Peerless and the Leather Co. cars for some time.  Several years ago I found the sad remains of an S.P.C.A.L. car and ever since I've been trying to find  a good example.  I was able to do this recently so now there are three.

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Here is how I Revived a 1930s Lionel 238 Streamlined Torpedo Locomotive shell and tinplate Tender.

A Lionel 238, Loewy’s 1936 designed, torpedo streamlined body and old style metal tinplate tender have been owned for several years, origin unknown.  It needed a motor and I found an old Marx four wheel one from a Marx 999 that seemed to work and fit.  The Marx motor did not have the mount and two front wheels like the 999 does.

I have looked into adding a pair of wheels on the front and on the rear to make a 2-4-2 but could not come up with "something" that would work but believe if I can find a mount and set of wheels from a 999 they would work.  They can be added later so for now I am going with a 0-4-0, which will run with no derailments of front or rear wheels.

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A metal mount was made for the rear and front of the motor into the engine and J B Welded them in.  Also made was a small metal tube to hold the head light, which is a 12v mini Christmas tree bulb, bulb holder, wire and socket.  A small hole was drilled into the top of the metal hole to let hot air out and added a small piece of red clear plastic to make a little red glow on the stack.  A locomotive coupler was installed.

The coal tender had a set of Lionel trucks, one with a Lionel coupler, were installed and a tender coupler was added to the front.

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Motor holder shown below

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Marx 999 motor and coal tender coupler shown below installed

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I painted the engine and tender with flat darkest gray spray primer and then covered all with clear glossy paint.  A small metal strip was labeled with L I O N E L letters and sprayed with clear.  This was installed were the original engine had a strip labeled Pennsylvania.  The engine and tender were decal-ed the as "Pennsylvania' and a side strip to show "Lionel" as the manufacturer not the fictitious Lionel Lines as Lionel was made.  The decals were sprayed with clear glossy paint to seal them on.


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I wanted to also pull Marx tinplate cars as they are lighter and more typical of 1930s trains.  The Torpedo tin coal tender got Lionel old style couplers so I made a tiny adapter from a paper clip shown below, to allow pulling Marx spade coupled cars.  It simply has a loop to be held by the pin of the coupler.

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This shows it hooked up to a Marx 027 tinplate boxcar.

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Below is my Marx cars tinplate train being pulled with the new to me Lionel 0-4-0 Torpedo stream lined steam locomotive.  This is an easy pull for the low powered Marx 999 style motor in the Torpedo.

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This was a fun project and is my first Torpedo Locomotive.  I now have a late 1930s streamlined torpedo loco and tinplate tender.

Charlie

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Won  a beater set of American Flyer streamlined Red passenger cars the other day.  They are a bit rough and you can see a couple of the decals have already flaked off.  That said I'm happy to have them and will see if they can be cleaned up at all without losing more paint lol.  I think I have a couple of six wheel trucks for the last car as well so that should be ok too.  I have a nicer set of Chrome cars and an equally rough Green set so these guys are a welcome addition to the fleet.

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Robert S. Butler :  What a fantastic diorama, congratulations on it being selected for TCA Quarterly.  I can recognize the AF pre-war 0 gauge box cars and the staging of the figure's and loads is really imaginative.  I can't hardly believe a MARX loco and train on the cover of TCA Quarterly...including some 6" cars (C&S refer and SF Mid-States oil) can be seen !!  I can't identify the loco in the center however, would you mind telling us in a future post?  The station is really amazing it is German I will bet although I do not know the brand.  

Super job, Congratulations again and Best Wishes

Don

Steve and Don - Thanks for the compliments. Don, the engine is a Flyer #3195 - the tender is an AF tender I borrowed from one of my clockwork sets - the reason being I wanted a tender that was something other than black.  The station is Bing ca 1912. The front two baggage cars are Flyer and the rearmost is the Hafner Adams baggage car. The guy scratching his head and worrying about the dumped baggage is a heavily modified Plasticville milkman which I reworked several years ago.

  The motivation for the setting was this Fred Harvey Postcard of the AT&SF station in El Paso from many years ago.

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  The hardest part of making the diorama was the baggage carts.  I figured I could find something simple on e-bay I could use - I figured wrong.  So, I purchased 4 Berkshire Valley baggage cart kits and built them assembly line fashion.

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They are very detailed and did take a lot of time but they were worth the effort and I have plans for them in other settings.

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@Fatman posted:

Outstanding work Mr Butler!

Agreed. 👍

This arrived yesterday:

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1979 first edition. Dunno if this is considered a "good" book, but it's got some great color photos...and their writing style is fun to read; informative, with a touch of humor. 🙂

Mark in Oregon

PS: in the acknowledgements, our own Carey Williams is singled out for his collection and knowledge...as an 18 year old!  😁

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Hello tinplaters,

I was pleasantly surprised by the mail yesterday when I received my new Ives 25 locomotive. Same version as the last 4 band 25 I had but much cleaner paint wise. Wouldn’t we all like to look this good at 113….The 11 tender also pictured came with the loco. Even though it’s not exactly the correct tender, it substitutes well. Good enough for me! Take a look:

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                                                 Trainfam

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Although I have posted pics in my "Home thread " the well camouflaged yet MEGA Tinplate Photos and Videos thread https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...te-photos-and-videos

I think it only fair it bleed onto this one too

My newly found Post War Walkers-Riemsdijk 0-6-0 Controlled Clockwork Locomotive .. this one was found here in Australia of all places and becomes the 3rd JVR Clockwork loco in my collection , the other two being much rarer 4-4-4 variants

Brief history of the man can be found here ... https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...7#148957538627772967

Oh and Tinplate guys .. Please think about bookmarking that thread .. the weekly updates topic posts  were such a huge part of many tinplaters days , and when the thread got "banished " to the bowels of the forum ( in the pictures section)  it was ( in my opinion anyway) a pretty harsh buzzkill to many of the once happy participants ... so now over time it has evolved into a MEGA THREAD of all things tinplate ( much as this thread is )

@Strummer: Great book, their forte seems to be a greater discussion of the various items that they choose to include than Greenberg's volumes do and I agree they have great pictures.  Now that you have Vol 3,  all you need is 1-6 for the set .

@TrainFam : Beautiful Ives 25 thanks for posting.  One question however, (I know little about early Ives) why does the name on the tender read L.V.E. ?  Is that some sort of abbreviation for Ives?

Fatman - I read about your Walker - Riemsdijk in your Tinplate post...the mechanism is amazing.  Fabulous find!

Best Wishes

Don

@Nation Wide Lines, @Don McErlean

Nation wide is correct, it does stand for Limited Vestibule Express. This 11 tender with LVE on it would make since for most Ives sets as a vast majority were passenger trains. The real number 25 tender also said LVE on the sides. This is interesting when you consider that Ives also included the 25 in their freight sets, which would not really be an LVE train because it’s more of a freight train then passenger.

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@Arne posted:

I've been planning a Bing layout for a long time. Only material from the last 5 years should be used for this, i.e. only from the area 1928-32.

This also includes all the plain buildings. A lot is already there, but some has been on the search list for a long time.

The rare company office has been on the list for a long time, but it's almost impossible to find.

bing10-6199-kat

Now there was a ruin to be found on Ebay, just the bare building.

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So everything had to be rebuilt.

Pyramid shaped roof

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Chimney pipe folded

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Canopy made of self-made corrugated iron

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For this purpose, press jaws were manufactured for a combination machine

wellblech01wellblech05

Base itself deep pressed

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A tool suitable for a workshop press was built for this purpose

tiefzieh03tiefzieh06

Supports for the canopy

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Chimney head soldered in three parts

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Tinplate work finished, only paint is missing.

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Arne

Very nice!! I too enjoy doing fabrications like this

PIcked up this Nonpareil floor train PRR boxcar. Not the nicest piece but the Bing logos(which I’ve learned are there b/c the model/tooling were acquired from Bing, from what I’ve read?

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I also have the nonpareil gondola, 99 Steamer and tender.

Photos below show the Bing markings-but differ

The famous “G.B.N” in the lower Left.Gebrüder Bing
For Gebrüder Bing of Nuremberg(Bing Brothers)

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Here’s the difference, the photo below says “C.B.N” in the lower left

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Factory error? Kinda find that hard to asay me is the case considering how often GBN was marked on an item via embossing, stamping, lithography, etc...

I Know that Karl Bub, due to anti-German sentiment abroad, Anglicized the company name to Carl Bub in the United Kingdom. Instead of “KBN”, there was a “CBN” on his trains.

any ideas? Is this how all of the Nonpariel. pRR boxcars look?

help appreciated

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@Pete in Kansas very nicely done! What brand paint did you use? Will you make any matching passenger cars or will you pull freight?            I used Rustoleum thinned with lacquer thinner and sprayed with an airbrush at 40PSI. The lettering is decals. I am making some small 300 series cars to go with it but haven't decided on the exact paint scheme yet. I already have a set in the traditional black and orange.  I want something a little more colorful but not mostly white like MTH a few years ago. If you look at some of my other posts you'll see that I have recently done some American Flyer Standard gauge passenger cars in various New Haven paint schemes. I like New haven and I like to paint so I've done quite a few cars and locomotives.

@StevefromPA posted:

I Know that Karl Bub, due to anti-German sentiment abroad, Anglicized the company name to Carl Bub in the United Kingdom. Instead of “KBN”, there was a “CBN” on his trains.





That is absolutely wrong, the anti-German mood only came after the First World War (1914-1918).

However, the locomotives with the CBN were built before 1910.

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In many old documents the name Karl Bub was written as Carl Bub.

In 1902 there was a writing reform in Germany, whereby the C was replaced by the K in many names and places. But that took several years. With Karl Bub, the name with a C can still be found until about 1910/11.

Here a example. A DRGM Deutsches Reichs Gebrauchsmuster, it´s like a patent. From 1905, Carl Bub with C.



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Translation.

252518 DRGM Carl Bub 08.05.1905 B. 27771 Switch points for toy railroad tracks, with hinged tongues each made of a piece of sheet metal, which forms the tongue and shifting arm

Belongs to Bub No 89.

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Arne

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I redid an auction buy Lionel #8,  It was a red repaint so I stripped it and did it better. I had done one of these years ago and sold it so it was time for a new one,

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I've been busy since this shot was taken, below is the first of the passenger cars to go with this #8.  It's a slightly different scheme than a real McGinnis scheme but it is much more colorful than black and orange. And I already have a set of black and orange NH cars so these have to be different.NH pass car for #8

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I've been busy since this shot was taken, below is the first of the passenger cars to go with this #8.  It's a slightly different scheme than a real McGinnis scheme but it is much more colorful than black and orange. And I already have a set of black and orange NH cars so these have to be different.NH pass car for #8

I also got a second #8 and cars in the same auction and it has become a New York Central #8.  In progress

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Finished

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Both together

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I also happened to be working on an American Flyer 4000 at the same time as the NYC #8,  What a difference in size for basically an 0-4-0 electric.   see below.

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My uncle gave me something really cool for the train layout this weekend.  So before I post the picture, I want to say to all, and especially the moderators, that I am not trying to make a political statement here. 

My uncle, through his daughter-in-law, happened to be featured in an ad campaign in Wisconsin.  The billboard shows a picture of my uncle, standing in front of his barn.  He received this model billboard, through his daughter-in-law, from the Adams billboard company, which was featuring the ad campaign on their billboards.

I think the model billboard is neat!  The detail of the walkway in front of the sign, the Adams name in the lower left of the walkway, its overall weight (it will not tip over easily), and the fact that the sign can easily be changed out. 

NWL

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