@jhz563 posted:@StevefromPA they actually had another Marx crane with those bars, but it was missing the hook and instead had the string tied around a barrel. For $15 ,either way I took the one with the hook.
might benefit from an Erector Set shed.
@Nation Wide Lines posted:Yes, the correct 420 for the double header has extra weights.
Thought this might be right up your alley NWL.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vinta...p2060353.m1438.l2649
Just got these Ives items in the mail today.
The orange 3255 and its cars each have a sticker like this:
Not all of them have ‘CXNN’ on the sticker. The 135 Parlor cars have ‘RSN’ and the 136 has ‘RSN’ and ‘3255 - 2 -135 1 -136 - Orange ANNX’.
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@Lionel2056 posted:Just got these Ives items in the mail today.
The orange 3255 and its cars each have a sticker like this:
Not all of them have ‘CXNN’ on the sticker. The 135 Parlor cars have ‘RSN’ and the 136 has ‘RSN’ and ‘3255 - 2 -135 1 -136 - Orange ANNX’.
The Kuehnle's sticker indicates that they came out of Bernie Kuehnle's collection, which was sold through Bertoia in 2003 or 2004. I know that Bernie marked all of his items with tags and the CXNN / RSN would have been some sort of cataloging method of Bernie. I bought a few items from his collection and all of them came with those tags and some markings on the tag. I would suspect if you were able to find the Bertoia Catalog for that auction, you could find those items.
NWL
The mailman delivered these today. I really wanted the 3046 log car, as it is an upgrade. The 3046 log cars with blue frames are harder to find.
The rest of the cars show a bit of dirt, but should clean nicely.
NWL
@terry hudon posted:what could be a better bday present ,,,,,,the mth black diamond cars,,,,olympian
diner and bacon !!
Mmmmm...... bacon.....
Just acquired the Marklin 2012B station from the 1930. Had a serious case of rust
on the platform but my Hornby hedges covered it up nicely. Here it is.
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Hope you guys noticed that the Lionel 238EW has six wheel drivers and looks like the original streamlined K4s. I didn't convert it, but found it in a Florida model RR shop a few years ago.
Lew
tcox009: What a great find, the 897 lithographed engine is a bit of a hard find and yours seems in wonderful condition. Thanks for posting. StevefromPA : In looking at your station, I was surprised by its similarity to one I have that has been previously identified as Hafner. The shape is nearly identical as far as I can tell and as you will see from the pictures the lithography, although different somewhat in color, has very similar treatment of the windows and stonework.
Finally just fooling around today, I tried to take some "off layout" pictures of some recent trains I acquired while on vacation. You may know my "Leonardtown and Savannah" is a late war years RR with one terminus at the wartime port of Savannah. Today, the mid day express is running cargo down to the port for a special assignment. They are loading an old wooden sailboat with some secret cargo. The ship, although slow, can hug the coast and once under sail makes almost no sound for submarines to pick up. Plus what Sub captain is going to wast a torpedo on an old hulk like this...She has pulled this masquerade off before with success.
Happy Tuesday
Don
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@handyandy posted:Mmmmm....... bacon.....
What a great find! That Olympian dining car is rare!
Bob Nelson
PS. I haven't seen production numbers on any of MTH's/Lionel's tinplate. Does anyone have them?
I’ve had my eye on a car like this for a long time. There have been plenty on eBay but this one was unique
8 wheel, Number 20508 Karl Bub/Bing Baggage car with dual “KB/BW” logo(right side under the window)! Very excited to have gotten this- I’ve seen the purely Bing version but never this one. It has more Bing like features than Bub. Also says “Made in Bavaria” on the top of each end. Trucks are just like the ones on my 8 wheel American Bing passenger cars.
For comparison- With a 4 wheeled Bing counterpart
For further comparrison- on the left is the 14780 Bub/Bing, again same dual logo this time on the left side. The car on the right is pure Bub with KBN on the top of one side
I just think it’s reeally neat how the cars show the history of the link between these two companies. So chalk up another green, German Baggage car to the collection!
@Don McErlean regarding your comments, I was gonna bring up something similar to you! Having remembered our previous conversation. Hafner’s #1200 series had the freight station(like the one you have), passenger station, and passenger platform- all had 10 inch long bases. I happened to recently acquire the passenger platform as well(had the passenger station for awhile):
Sure enough, the length of the base on this platform and my Hafner passenger station measured 10 inches and matched up perfectly. On the other hand, the station that I have had a longer base. Also, I think is a combination of items from different companies due to the missing Bing symbol on the back, color scheme, base, etc...
Stay tuned for a new Prewar Tinplate set! Bid on it at a local auction house back in March, auction was just held this Sunday due to covid. Should have it Friday!
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Steve,
the KB / BW double trademark is only printed on Bub models, never on a Bing model. Was used only 1933 - early months 1934, later it was forbidden by the copyright owner of the Bing trademark.
Here a few Bub cars with the double trademark
Bub had buyed some tools from Bing after 1932, but the Bing trademark was not used on them by Bub.
Here a example
Bub car 1607/0 was Bing 10/5117
Left Bub right Bing
Printing on frame is a bit different, Bing on top.
Arne
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@Arne was hoping you’d comment! Thank you, as always, for the helpful knowledge and the pictures! I really appreciate it. I know that a lot of the Prewar European, especially German, train manufacturers made trains for each other(Bing for Basset-Lowke)- prior to the beginning of the Nazi’s assuming power in Germany.
I used poor wording by calling the train “Karl Bub/Bing”. It implies that the two companies we’re partners which they were not. I thought I knew much more about the history of Bing, but your info prompted me to re-read the entry on the TCA western page of manufacturera and there’s been some additions. -I attributed Bub’s use of Bing tooling and the logo as some type of collaboration between Stephen Bing and KBN after the forced shutdown of the German Bing factory and Stephen Bing’s fleeing to The UK. Didn’t realize that different Bing tooling was divided among a number of companies. I had no idea that Stephen Bing allowed KBN the use of and then revoked the use of the Bing logo. thought I knew much more about the history of Bing, but your info prompted me to re-read the entry on the TCA western page of manufacturera and there’s been some additions. Thanks again for the info and sharing those pictures!
Here are the Prewar Lionels To which I alluded in my last post;
Olive green 252 with cast headlight and hand-lever reverse unit. 805 boxcar, late(?) 803 hopper and 807 Caboose
Scratch built “L Co.” industrialbuilding with larger tank with CIties Services logo
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Hi,
I bought this nice 1990s vintage MTH Tinplate Traditions Stephen Girard 4 car set last week online to go with my 392e. I originally bought the 392e to pull 200 series freight which it does well, and then I came to learn it was really made to pull the Girard cars. This loco will now be a dual purpose engine on my layout and the SGMA club layouts. I thought these cars would look good with the loco, and on my 0-54 curves. I happened to be alerted to a shop that was having a sale on tinplate and checked it out, and there it was this nice NOS set at a decent price.
When unboxing, the first thing I noticed there was these cars have never seen the track, second thing was there were no chairs in the car, just a bench along both sides, I have the blue comet cars, the state cars, so I am used to seeing the chairs. I thought it was a mistake, so I stopped unboxing, checked online and saw that was the way they were supposed to be.
Relief...back to unboxing and oiling the axles. Ran the train, and it was perfect and quite pretty.
Now, I am thinking about getting a baggage car and a No. 9. to match the cars as well. If anyone knows of either for sale please let me know. The hunt never ends.
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@Craignor congratulations on your recent purchase. These are some really sharp looking passenger cars and go nicely behind the 392E. You should get many years of enjoyment from them. Could you share the store that was having the sale either here or just drop me an email, which is in my profile.
Rich,
Thanks. Unfortunately, the sale is over, and they are completely sold out of tinplate.
It was called All About Toy Trains, the store website is:
I think this is pretty cool, I just finished redoing an old Flyer Wide gauge caboose today. This time I used a rattle can of Rustoleum Dark Hunter green which came out very nice I think.
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Looks good Pete!
Rob do you recognize this caboose? You should, its the one I got from you.
@Pete in Kansas posted:Rob do you recognize this caboose? You should, its the one I got from you.
Figured it was! Looks great in its new livery!
Looks great - giving me ideas! There are a lot of these around these days.
Jim
Someone wanted me to sell this for them but would be nice to know the manufacture.
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There’s a bunch I’ve got to catch up on here, but I’ll start out with two of my favorites:
my first Bassett-Lowke item!! bought at a “flash train meet” about two weeks ago.
NE Gondola. Has a marking that I believes indicates it was made in Northampton?
This one just in the mail this week- Bing American Marketd Penna. Coal & Coke Hopper. Sides say “The Bing Miniature Railway System” and bottom says “GBN Bavaria”. Further, the wheels and couplers on this seem to be authentic/legitimate.
obviously not geographically accurate, I use the milch-wagen as a transition between tab-slot and Bing type couplers.
NE RR w/ Southern Rail(Bing)
More to come!
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Arcade streamlined "Pullman Railplane" cast iron toy, marked for the Century of Progress Expo of 1934. These came in both short (5") and long (8" as seen here) versions in various colors. Pleased to find one with most of its paint and lettering remaining! Other streamliners seen in the photos are a silver Tootsietoy streamliner, and a Wells/Brimtoy "Golden Streak"
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I finally finished my AF Standard Gauge Hoods Milk Car.
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@John Smatlak very, very cool streamliners from multiple manufacturers! Each one cool in its own way. Agreed- the lettering on the Arcade piece is in great condition. Your pictures really demonstrate the diversity of Prewar manufacturing, thanks for sharing!
As I said before- more to come!
to go with my Bassett Lowke North Eastern Railway Gondola, a Bing North Eastern Railway freight car- albeit four wheels and much smaller. Just came in the mail today:
Won this at a local auction- missing handles and bulb covers but otherwise in good shape and working well- American Flyer 12b. Always looking for Postwar transformers like this, Lionel type V, Z or KW to power accessories.
From front to back:
The Gondola and Hopper I posted above. Flea market buy in a parts bin- Lionel Standard Gauge #77 crossing. Not sure what I’m going to turn it into yet. In the back: Prewar Lionel #815 Sunoco Tankerin decent shape and a somewhat beat up 901 Lake shore gondola 
I know I posted this above, but forgot to point out the semaphore in the background- I believe it’s a Prewar American Flyer? 
And then there’s this guy, which may be my most intriguing- I was going to post it in my “help with Bing cast iron shell” thread:
Simply marked Germany. Electric motor(obviously not working). The shells of the loco and tender as well as the remaining wheels on the loco are in nice shape. The thing is- it’s just a hair too small for o gauge and definitely doesn’t fit on s-gauge. I know Bub had a misguided S-gauge endeavor- but the wheelbase wouldn’t align with that. I also know that some German manufacturers in the Prewar days manufactured a smaller o gauge. @Arne and @FRENCHTRAINS - I was gonna post this to you guys anyway, ideas? I ran into a seller at a train meet recently who had a similar one and he gave me his contact info telling me to reach out.
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@jhz563 Beaut of a steamer! Looks superb- great get. Early today, as I was finagling a prewar box car with a loosely attached postwar knuckle-coupler to attach it to a MTH S-2 turbine, I thought how much I really wished that I would've bought a MTH Lionel Corp engine. It's not just the sounds and features but the look of the type of engine you posted that would make it fit so much better with prewar rolling stock.Again, great pick-up.
@StevefromPA What a glorious little cutie of a locomotive .... I cant add anything concrete to the argument unfortunately , except it looks "Bub"-ish to me as well , but wondering if maybe its a shell that has been remotored ( obviously in a very early period ?) but it looks to my eye that the drive gear is bigger than the wheels fitted ? This would be rather odd I would think ? so perhaps a period motor that has been modified to fit ?
@Fatman regarding the motor and it’s fit- I’m not sure. But I did have someone who’s been around in terms of repairs look at it and he’s seen these types of motors before.
I should’ve included more of my talk with the seller at the recent meet. He walked passed me and had a bright, lime green colored loco just like mine(of course no PRR) with the same window types. So I hailed him down. He’s also a seller who, while I don’t know him, we eventually recognized each other from other meets. Anyway, He said it won’t run on normal O gauge(1 1/4) because the track is too wide for it but that the wheels are too far apart for it to be S. Also simply said it was ” old” but was mass produced. Apparently, he was able to assemble the track on which it worked but it was a headache to do so. I’m gonna reach out to him and hopefully come back here with some answers.
my guesses: either 1 1/8 Märklin or Bub, Or an Early German non-standard-O 25,28,30mm track gauge. This I’ve gleaned from historytoy, charles cooper’s railway track museum, section 12.4 of this resource
https://s3.amazonaws.com/content.
Charles cooper’s railwaypages
and this site with dialogue between the owner and Mr. Cooper.
http://www.silogic.com/trains/...ee-Rail%20Track.html
I think you are definitely onto it ! ... And looking at the loco you have it does indeed share the same oversize gear to wheel fitment .. the pickup on yours looks to be fairly rudimentary tho and that might push it more into the Bub camp yet again ? with the cheaper tin motor sideplates it was surely built to a budget , yet it has really nice lithography and body stamping ... curiouser and curiouser !
@StevefromPA posted:And then there’s this guy, which may be my most intriguing- I was going to post it in my “help with Bing cast iron shell” thread:
Simply marked Germany. Electric motor(obviously not working). The shells of the loco and tender as well as the remaining wheels on the loco are in nice shape. The thing is- it’s just a hair too small for o gauge and definitely doesn’t fit on s-gauge. I know Bub had a misguided S-gauge endeavor- but the wheelbase wouldn’t align with that. I also know that some German manufacturers in the Prewar days manufactured a smaller o gauge. @Arne and @FRENCHTRAINS - I was gonna post this to you guys anyway, ideas? I ran into a seller at a train meet recently who had a similar one and he gave me his contact info telling me to reach out.
Steve,
unmarked but not unknown. Here a similar loco with train, marked with FANDOR.
Arne
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@Arne so it’s not the prewar Bing 28mm which I had hoped. @Fatman - you were right regarding the motor- my loco is clearly clockwork(has the little semi circle for the key to turn to mechanism). The wheels on the motor have 6 spokes but that’s moot as the motor doesn’t go with that loco. So looks like a Fandor loco shell, unknown electric motor, and the tender’s lithography matches up with Fandor posted by Arne- the wheels on mine are quite literally “groovy”- but wheels are wheels. Just a hodge podge of Prewar Something- mainly Fandor. thank you for clearing this matter up for me, both Arne and Fatman, greatly appreciate the assistance.
@StevefromPA posted:@jhz563 Beaut of a steamer! Looks superb- great get. Early today, as I was finagling a prewar box car with a loosely attached postwar knuckle-coupler to attach it to a MTH S-2 turbine, I thought how much I really wished that I would've bought a MTH Lionel Corp engine. It's not just the sounds and features but the look of the type of engine you posted that would make it fit so much better with prewar rolling stock.Again, great pick-up.
Hey Steve,
I made my transition car from a 2812 gondola by swapping out one of the trucks.
I had an idea for you - sent you an email.
Love that Fandor project you picked up, I have a Hornby about the same size.
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@StevefromPA posted:@Arne so it’s not the prewar Bing 28mm which I had hoped. @Fatman - you were right regarding the motor- my loco is clearly clockwork(has the little semi circle for the key to turn to mechanism). The wheels on the motor have 6 spokes but that’s moot as the motor doesn’t go with that loco. So looks like a Fandor loco shell, unknown electric motor, and the tender’s lithography matches up with Fandor posted by Arne- the wheels on mine are quite literally “groovy”- but wheels are wheels. Just a hodge podge of Prewar Something- mainly Fandor. thank you for clearing this matter up for me, both Arne and Fatman, greatly appreciate the assistance.
Steve,
this is 0 gauge, but very small and cheap.
the Bing 28 mm train was sold as 0 gauge too.
Here the Bing and the Fandor train as 0 gauge.
The Bing coaches was made in 2 sizes, but both was made as 0 gauge
Here a example for the different in 0 gauge, the smallest and the biggest 4-wheel Bing coach.
Arne
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@Pete in Kansas posted:I finally finished my AF Standard Gauge Hoods Milk Car.
really nice! How did you do the markings?
Jim
Highball Graphics decals.
This is Modern STD Gauge, but not tin. It’s a battery, remote control set. Still for less than $100.00 it should be fun.
Steve
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What I bought and what I got.
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Wow ! Very hard to press a "like" on that post @Steve "Papa" Eastman so I didnt !
Was the package it came in used as a substitute ball in a local football match? I mean you can see there is some zincpest in the first photo but its turned into Hiroshima in transit 
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
What I bought and what I got.
That stinks. Hope it wasn't from a fellow TCA member or someone on the forum.
Good luck on getting a resolution. Please post when it's resolved, and 'out' the culprit.
Looks like the wheels had a case of the Zinc Pest, did the steam chest also? If so, that would make it more likely to crater like that with a little bouncing. Not making excuses, just thinking out loud. The rest looks great, I assume you were planning on having to change the wheels already. Are there repro cylinders for that loco?
Wow-bummer Steve. Over the last 7 mos I have gotten 2 locos from e-bay with unexpected zinc pest but in both cases it was just one drive wheel. Loco looks good otherwise so may still be rescued if repairable. Still rotten seller trick though
Don
I knew it was missing the front truck and that the drivers were bad. I ordered new drivers as soon as I won the auction. The seller wrapped each piece ok, but the two pieces barely fit in the box he used so no cushioning from anything touching the box. He is reimbursing me the cost of the parts to fix it. Hard to find engine so I did not want to return it.
Steve
Sounds fair. Good to know seller made honest attempt to rectify situation.
OBTW. Can you reveal the source for the wheels. I need some
Don
@Don McErlean posted:Sounds fair. Good to know seller made honest attempt to rectify situation.
OBTW. Can you reveal the source for the wheels. I need some
Don
Henning’s makes the for the 6 wheel McCoy motor.
Steve
These are known to have zinc pest and it was visible on the wheels in the auction photo. Caveat emptor! I'm pretty sure it would have crumbled the first time you handled it, even if it had been properly cushioned for shipping. Good thing replacement parts are available!
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:Hard to find engine so I did not want to return it.
Steve
DING DING, that's he key! Found myself in that situation a few times as well and understand!
some of these situations you make the best of and roll through it and figure out how to fix it. I remember you having to make some parts for a few other McCoy locos as well.
Not sure why but I managed to pick up this early Marklin Gauge 1 airplane flat car of course without the airplane. lol. Will have to try my hand at making the plane. Maybe I'll make a WW I fighter instead.
I'm not sure of the time frame for this car and I think it's the only 1 gauge Marklin I have right now.... That may be a problem lol
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@jhz563 posted:
You better be ready with a Quadruple header to pull that coal drag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Dennis Holler posted:You better be ready with a Quadruple header to pull that coal drag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fortunately the loaded train is downhill and empties uphill!!
This is why I love having my tinplate dcs equipped. Distributed power prevents string-line incidents, even when the train is shiny!!
I think I got a about 12 cars behind my LCT 263E before I got nervous. I don’t want to start stripping gears. And they are prone if overloaded. George S just went through that on a std loco. Scared me a little! Lol
@Dennis Holler posted:I think I got a about 12 cars behind my LCT 263E before I got nervous. I don’t want to start stripping gears. And they are prone if overloaded. George S just went through that on a std loco. Scared me a little! Lol
That's about the max I would do. Fortunately I have an mth NYC Hudson with tinplate coupler to put on the lead. I have modified a black/brass 263e to have a front coupler for a lashup. If I need a pusher on the end I can use a transition car and put just about any other engine on the tail. Maybe next year I can make another front coupler model for another 260e or 263e.
@Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:
Ooh ow. Typical McCoy castings. I don't know why they thought they could do Zamak so thin. So many examples of their stuff blowing apart
I inherited two McCoy steam locos from my Grandfather’s collection, the Chief Cle Elum 4-6-0 and the Little Chief 0-4-0. I apologize, I have no intentions to market these parts, but to simply show the processes I’ve used to obtain some otherwise unobtainable parts. Five iterations of the steam chest and two iterations of the pony frame on the 3D printer to get the form and fit right. I found a very sympathetic machinist near where I work who made the parts from my final CAD files. Considered a large step forward in my eventual full restoration journey for these two badly damaged and repainted engines.
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@CJ Meyers posted:I inherited two McCoy steam locos from my Grandfather’s collection, the Chief Cle Elum 4-6-0 and the Little Chief 0-4-0. I apologize, I have no intentions to market these parts, but to simply show the processes I’ve used to obtain some otherwise unobtainable parts. Five iterations of the steam chest and two iterations of the pony frame on the 3D printer to get the form and fit right. I found a very sympathetic machinist near where I work who made the parts from my final CAD files. Considered a large step forward in my eventual full restoration journey for these two badly damaged and repainted engines.
I have a Cle Elum on my project list. Henning’s makes a repro saddle for the steam cylinders and the 6 driver wheel sets. Cylinders I already had, just need a front truck now, and the time to get it done.
Steve
Not today- but most recently: My first original American Flyer Wide Gauge electric engine and freight cars! Bought from Dave C. in Wisconsin.
NOW I am truly running with the BIG DOGS- AF Wide Gauge!
My hubby Tom and I, with our two doggies took a 6 day road trip to Wisconsin the beginning of this month (October 2020) to meet with and see NWL and Dave C. and their wonderful train collections and layouts. This set came home with me.
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Another recent purchase(s): both for my new Upstairs O Gauge Layout I am creating.
An early Hornby early No. 1 Signal Gantry
Marx Grand Central Station
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Carey...layout looks really good. I like the way you have integrated various manufacturers. the structures really look good and the "glass" train shed is really cool. I was interested in what I think is a background along the wall, those backgrounds do not look like flat printed sheets but some of the older Lionel / Flyer backgrounds that they used with some of their sets, is that correct?
Anyway, really looking good.
Don
@Carey TeaRose posted:Not today- but most recently: My first original American Flyer Wide Gauge electric engine and freight cars! Bought from Dave C. in Wisconsin.
NOW I am truly running with the BIG DOGS- AF Wide Gauge!
My hubby Tom and I, with our two doggies took a 6 day road trip to Wisconsin the beginning of this month (October 2020) to meet with and see NWL and Dave C. and their wonderful train collections and layouts. This set came home with me.
Looking great! You are one lucky couple to meet those two and see their collections. Of course, you are building quite a display and collection in your own right with all your layouts.
George
@Carey TeaRose posted:Another recent purchase(s): both for my new Upstairs O Gauge Layout I am creating.
An early Hornby early No. 1 Signal Gantry
Marx Grand Central Station
Carey,
Just to say, it's a No2 signal gantry, the No1 is a much simpler thing, which just plugs together.
Mark
@bigmark75f posted:Carey,
Just to say, it's a No2 signal gantry, the No1 is a much simpler thing, which just plugs together.
OKAY- Thanks! I remembered that incorrectly. Just checked it against my eBay Purchase history, its the no 2.
Mark
After about a 2 or 3 year search, I finally found one of my unicorns in a truly last chance manner. In the mth warehouse auction, I won the red 713 baggage car to complete my 710 series of cars from mth. It even came with the box, which as a factory sample is different from the rest of the boxes the other cars were packaged in. Here it is in all it's shiny glory.
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@jhz563 posted:After about a 2 or 3 year search, I finally found one of my unicorns in a truly last chance manner. In the mth warehouse auction, I won the red 713 baggage car to complete my 710 series of cars from mth. It even came with the box, which as a factory sample is different from the rest of the boxes the other cars were packaged in. Here it is in all it's shiny glory.
FABULOUS!!!
My Hornby Metropolitan set circa 1928. After rewiring it now lights and runs perfectly. Note that the cars have external on/off light switches as does the engine. I still need to replace the yellow window plastic that was severely deformed. The set was a welcome addition to my Hornby collection.
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Reefer Madness - Tinplate Style
Shortly after Christmas of last year I was looking over my run of Marx FGEX reefers and it occurred to me it would be fun to put together a picture of nothing but tinplate reefers. Since I wanted to have as many as possible and since I didn't have everything I wanted for a picture I contacted a couple of friends and got permission to borrow some of their rolling stock for a day. I ran around, gathered up the cars, set up the display, did the photography, and returned all of the cars on the same day. I figured I would do the final image processing sometime after the New Year and send everyone a shot...and then we all know what happened.
This weekend, one of the contributors called and wanted to know if I had ever sent that picture ...and I had to admit I had completely forgotten about it. Anyway - I took the time on Sunday to make things right and I thought everyone might like to see a different take on "Reefer Madness".
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@Robert S. Butler posted:Reefer Madness - Tinplate Style
Shortly after Christmas of last year I was looking over my run of Marx FGEX reefers and it occurred to me it would be fun to put together a picture of nothing but tinplate reefers. Since I wanted to have as many as possible and since I didn't have everything I wanted for a picture I contacted a couple of friends and got permission to borrow some of their rolling stock for a day. I ran around, gathered up the cars, set up the display, did the photography, and returned all of the cars on the same day. I figured I would do the final image processing sometime after the New Year and send everyone a shot...and then we all know what happened.
This weekend, one of the contributors called and wanted to know if I had ever sent that picture ...and I had to admit I had completely forgotten about it. Anyway - I took the time on Sunday to make things right and I thought everyone might like to see a different take on "Reefer Madness".
I would have forgot to return some of those cars in the second row.
George
A Lionel Classics 381e arrived yesterday in beautiful condition. Many thanks to Steve Eastman for helping me acquire a great engine!
Joe Gozzo
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Yesterday, I set up my iPad on my "petite" Halloween layout, to see about using it for a ala' 1933 "Park-In Theater"- showing old vintage Halloween movies via YouTube. Hubby Tom and I will come up creating and then building a deco style frame and base for it. Set on a block of wood in this pic for the mock-up. Pulled five of my 1/24 1930-1941 automobiles from the Upstairs Standard Gauge Layout to set up with it.
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Paper bungalow:
Lionel 184 in upper right for comparison. Worked out okay, except the porch/entryway is too small.
PD
PD the bungalow looks great, even with the undersized front porch. Can you share how you fabricated/printed the bungalow graphics? Overall very impressive.
Rich,
Paul Race and Howard Lamey put the graphics together. You can find them here:
https://bigindoortrains.com/pr..._house/tin_house.htm
Best,
PD
A recent Ives purchase
This is the#116 Station by Ives. It has very colorful lithography, which is one of the reasons I like the accessories made to go with pre war trains.
The same lithography is used for front and back.
Very nice Greg, a real beauty. Daniel
This is a beautiful station Greg. I love the leadlight windows, the ornate corbels and the people in the windows - especially the clerk sitting at the desk with the candlestick phone. For some time I've had a Hornby No. 2 Windsor station on my wish list. I think this Ives no. 116 has just replaced it! Guy
Two very interesting features of the lithography are the separate men's and ladies' waiting rooms - a common feature in 19th and early 20th century train stations and the train arrival boards with their "Up" and "Down" train designations which were terms for trains moving between larger and smaller towns/cities.
Finally got all of my trains out of storage where they lurked while I was out of the country. I’m taking inventory now to try to figure out what I have and what I forgot.
Among it all is my MTH Olympian Ives set I’m looking forward to running around the tree this year.
Lionel Toy Story Aquarium car from Mario's Trains.
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@Don McErlean posted:Carey...layout looks really good. I like the way you have integrated various manufacturers. the structures really look good and the "glass" train shed is really cool. I was interested in what I think is a background along the wall, those backgrounds do not look like flat printed sheets but some of the older Lionel / Flyer backgrounds that they used with some of their sets, is that correct?
Anyway, really looking good.
Don
The background pieces are most of the pieces in the American Flyer Diorama set from 1953. When I bought it many years ago, I never knew it was incomplete. The few missing pieces, hoping to have someone that has this complete to scan them in and make copies for me.
@Trainlover160 posted:A Lionel Classics 381e arrived yesterday in beautiful condition. Many thanks to Steve Eastman for helping me acquire a great engine!
Joe Gozzo
yay!
Today I am back at it on the work trade items for Don Kelly. My part is to design and fill three 512 Gondolas for his Christmas Train. The green gondola seen here is the one as yet unpainted one I had him send me for working with in real size.
#1 filled with vintage ornaments and greenery.
#2 a Santa, train, and xmas tree scene upon a bank of 'snow'
3# a Christmas Day performance of the Ice Capades, starring 'Sonya Henie', complete with Petty pin-up program artwork
#2 and #3 are mostly done, but still works in-progress.
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@Carey TeaRose posted:Today I am back at it on the work trade items for Don Kelly. My part is to design and fill three 512 Gondolas for his Christmas Train. The green gondola seen here is the one as yet unpainted one I had him send me for working with in real size.
#1 filled with vintage ornaments and greenery.
#2 a Santa, train, and xmas tree scene upon a bank of 'snow'
3# a Christmas Day performance of the Ice Capades, starring 'Sonya Henie', complete with Petty pin-up program artwork
#2 and #3 are mostly done, but still works in-progress.
Wow Carey!!! Great Job. LOVE THEM!
Joe Gozzo
Another paper building project, the yardmaster's office from the April, 1954, issue of Toy Trains magazine:
Still a few flaws on my part, but I'm learning as I go. Hal Carstens penned this for the magazine 66 years ago, and it's a nice little building. It could easily serve a number of uses, even as a small station. A lot of fun for a few pennies.
PD
Got a few tinplate pieces to add to my collection.
Ives 107-D semaphore signals (Note that the arms and bases are different colors)
A boxed Hafner train set, with track. Says it is a No. 802
A Lionel 118 tunnel
A Lionel 102 Bridge
And three Lionel freight cars
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I finally finished this project.
Here is the American Flyer 3008 boxcar that I started with
Lithograph peeling and poorly repainted.
It was converted into a Milk Car thanks to some paint and vinyl decals.
NWL
@Nation Wide Lines posted:I finally finished this project.
Here is the American Flyer 3008 boxcar that I started with
Lithograph peeling and poorly repainted.
It was converted into a Milk Car thanks to some paint and vinyl decals.
NWL
That’s nice! I really like it. It’s a shame that happened to a 3008. Painting it destroys any hope of recognizing the original litho. Your rendition is a good compromise.
I was able to save this one because it was only missing the door and brake wheel. the roof had latex house paint droplets on it that I was able to remove with gentle application of Goof Off. The door is a photo of the other side glued to a piece of tin.
George
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@Carey TeaRose @Nation Wide Lines @Lionel2056 @chug @jhz563 @Arne and to everyone on this page- this is one of the best pages of finds andbeautiful Displays of tin I’ve seen on this forum in recent memory! Absolutely fantastic!
i have my own items to contribute, but I’m focused on the one I just bought, unexpectedly. Lumber/stake car with Bing auto couplers and Bub looking “trucks”(can’t think of the word)- held together by 3 chains and with buffers. Modified car?
Will post rest of recent finds once I get home but this one is really bugging me! In the mean time- keep the good stuff coming!
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@StevefromPA posted:i have my own items to contribute, but I’m focused on the one I just bought, unexpectedly. Lumber/stake car with Bing auto couplers and Bub looking “trucks”(can’t think of the word)- held together by 3 chains and with buffers. Modified car?
Will post rest of recent finds once I get home but this one is really bugging me! In the mean time- keep the good stuff coming!
Steve sorry, wrong and wrong. The couplers are silver, Bing had similar but in black. Truck are different to Bub.
The car was made by the Manufacturer Doll in the late 30s, buffers and couplers are orginal, but was a passenger car, the chains and the wood are homemade.
Greetings
Arne
@Arne posted:Steve sorry, wrong and wrong. The couplers are silver, Bing had similar but in black. Truck are different to Bub.
The car was made by the Manufacturer Doll in the late 30s, buffers and couplers are orginal, but was a passenger car, the chains and the wood are homemade.
Greetings
Arne
Arne, i appreciate you once again shooting my improper conjectures out of the sky ha. But thank you for the accurate info- you are such a great source of knowledge. I figured it was likely modified based on the slots for tabs on the bottom. I thought the trucks were Bub because the rest just didn’t fit with my other two guesses(Fandor or Distler). I see what you mean regarding the couplers- they also ”hang” lower.I’m happy to know that the frame, couplers and buffers are original- this train is my first Doll et Cie ! I have some decent prewar Bodies that could use a decent frame and fit on this car so that’s probably what I’ll do. Thanks again!
Doll et Cie was eventually taken over by Fleischman but their Production was nowhere near the same quality.
@Nation Wide Lines posted:I finally finished this project.
Here is the American Flyer 3008 boxcar that I started with
Lithograph peeling and poorly repainted.
It was converted into a Milk Car thanks to some paint and vinyl decals.
NWL
NWL, I love this!!! My fave was Carnation Strawberry Ice Cream.
@Jim O'C posted:Doll et Cie was eventually taken over by Fleischman but their Production was nowhere near the same quality.
I was aware of that. Bing and Doll were both great companies that had Jewish owners and thus targets of the Nazi regime that ruined them in one way or another. Doll sold sold to Fleischman(also had Jewish owner)who took over in 1938–1939 and managed to produce some Doll cars prior to switching to war production, even using the Doll logo. The Doll logo use by Fleischmann is almost similar to some Bub cars having the a Bub and Bing logo, except Stefan Bing had this practice stopped per court order(thanks Arne!) in 1933(although some cars produced in 1933 by Bub with both logos were still sold in 1934). That said, Stefan Bing was in the UK at this time so presumably a court in the UK made that decision. Per TCA western, With Doll sale was made with good faith thay after the war Fleischmann would return the company to its rightful owner, which it apparently offered to do and that offer was declined. While I don’t have any Prewar Fleischmann o gauge, I do have 2 Postwar cars: Aral tank car and the “High side car” that has the Fleischmann name and “made in Us Zone” on it. The quality of those Postwar tin cars by Fleischmann is definitely not on par with anything Prewar German- it almost feels flimsy and has very “goofy” couplers.
Just catching up on this thread after a couple of months. Great stuff as usual!!
Robert, love the tinplate reefer madness!
Carey, the ipad drive-in is a great idea. Can't wait to see the art deco version. A video of the trains running past a movie playing at night? That would be cool! And the gondola panoramas. You are a real artist and are giving me ideas!!
PD, very nice bungalow and yardmaster's office!
And NWL, great reefer.
I agree with Steve- this is a particularly great page of projects and finds. Long live tinplate!!
