Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:More of a got off my *** kinda thing. Finally dug some used trim molding out of the rafters to get some trim on this small section of the layout. The rest of the trim has been on for a few years.
Steve
That's a really pretty engine there.
Steve "Papa" Eastman posted:I want a tinplate version of this.
Steve
hope that sweat box was refrigerated, I wouldn't buy any melted Fanny Farmer. 1934 Harley flathead VL, I believe.
Added more to my American Market Bing collection. A few More photos to come when I get home and more Bing in general to come this week!
1st up. #205 NEw York Central Lines, 8 wheel coach, wood side litho with orange letterings and orange window frames. Embossed “GBN(in diamond) Bavaria” on the bottom. Litho’d “Bing Miniature Railway System”(first car I have with that) on the top of each end
Another 205 New York Central Lines, 8 wheel coach, wood side litho with yellow lettering And window frames. Embossed “GBN(in diamond) Bavaria” on the bottom. Litho’d “Bing Miniature Railroad System” on the top of each end
The only thing new here is the 20th Century in the back. Otherwise this i’ve posted this 259 woodwide litho Observation before. 20th century came from another NYC 259 that I bought. I’ll show the next picture later. You’ll notice that the 20th century is off center b/c it only has 7 ‘grooves’. My Pennsylvania RR Lines Riveted Obs car and the aforementioned NYC Lines all have 8 ‘grooves(?)’ on which to put this sign. Will likely switch out the back of the observations so that the sign is centered
Bing 4 wheel New York Central Lines coach. Riveted litho body. Embossed bottom with “BW Germany”
George S posted:StevefromPA posted:George S posted:StevefromPA posted:Just picked this part of a Bing platform up on eBay after the seller accepted me offer.
After picking up a Wellls-Brimtoy raised station this past weekend, I really liked it but hate how it lacks a back. Besides buying another station to make it symmetrical, Which I didn’t want to do, I was stuck with placing it somewhere that the back wouldn’t be seen, which, with my current layout, meant having it face away from the track unless I’d make some major changes. With this piece, I don’t have to put it against a wall or worry as much about strategic placement because it adds a backside to the station. Once it arrives in the next 4 weeks( lol) I’ll be sure to post pictures.
I saw one like this that I was watching. I think it had railing on three sides. I am looking for one that has the two horizontal bars through the stanchions instead of the balusters. Yours will look good with your station though.
George
George, I got lazy and posted a picture from a website instead of the one that I got on ebay with a red underside and yellow rubber stamped "Made in Germany". Curious- particular reason that you're looking for one with 2 bars perpendicular to the stanchions? Trying to complete a set? I know this piece I bought was separated from the station platform with which it originally could be placed alongside or with a rail line or something else in between to add the number of lines the platform could service
I’ve seen this one listed, but it’s not in my budget and I already have the canopy.
I like the look of it and the railing is similar to the railing on the station I built for my layout.
George
Good stuff George! Admittedly,I’d prefer the canopy
. Thanks for showing this!
Got these in the mail yesterday. While there’s still plenty out there- I’m pretty much done buying Bing New York Central - unless its a loco .These guys look nice behind a 254E:
2395 Combine Car And 205 woodsode Coach. Combine car is probably my favorite overall. Woodside coach came with an Ives roof but I have a few of those 205s already
250 NYC OBservation Car, Lakewood Obervation Car, Winnebago Coach
some extras- the 205 on the left is nice(brightest 205 I have) but is really scuffed up. In the middle is an extra Lakewood Obs that came without wheels. In the back is a 4 wheel 259 Observation. On the right is a 205 with a terribly faded body that came with a frame with only one truck so I tried- and failed- to add a Marx truck to it.
got these guys today. Thats the nice side of the B&O. Was sold as not running- got it moving in about 10min after some lube, piling and cleaning. The UP challenger has the auto couplers with a slot in them to connect tabs, had been looking for one of those at the right price for awhile. 
Finally, Bing watchman’s shanty without the base. Still a nice looking piece. Both doors open and the handle locks both doors too.
first Bing piece I’ve bought with this logo that says “Bavaria” under the Be instead of Germany
Still Germany, Bravaria is Germany's largest state. It's between Czechoslovakia, Austria, Switzerland, and the the rest of Germany (the seacoast). It's at the Northeast side of, at the base of the Alps.
No pictures yet, but my TCA 2019 200 series hopper cars arrived yesterday. One is in Rio Grande Yellow and the other silver. I'll probably bring them to the 2019 convention in a few weeks for the Division trailer layout to run on the 5 rail loop.
Adriatic posted:Still Germany, Bravaria is Germany's largest state. It's between Czechoslovakia, Austria, Switzerland, and the the rest of Germany (the seacoast). It's at the Northeast side of, at the base of the Alps.
Butch i mighta hit my head but I haven’t forgotten geography or European history lol.
I, and others, have wondered why Bing went from BAVARIA or MADE IN BAVARIA to replacing Bavaria with Germany. As you said it’s Germany’s largest state. It’s held special status, whether as an electorate or something else, throughout the history of “Germany”(quotes because Germany has gone through quite a few iterations since the fall of Holy Roman Empire). Possibly because laws were not nearly as specific back then that by not naming the trademark by country they avoided the post-WWI protective tariffs?
Who knows- I just like it
As well as fooled a few customers with anti-German sentiment, which was high for some unkown reason 🤔.. 
Who knows, they may have even been thinking of trying to rename it all Bravaria, or Prussia, etc. I think one of my early 1900s encylopedias may refer to it as Bavaria too. (very interesting reading from an extremely dated encylcopedia. The state of mind, habits to beliefs, prejudices to politics of the day show themselves well dated, and often laughable contrasting against today)
Adriatic posted:I think one of my early 1900s encylopedias may refer to it as Bavaria too.
Bavaria was still a Kingdom in the early 1900s with King Otto I until 1913 and before that the famous King Ludwig II who had a luxurious train made for himself, this is my H0 model of one of the cars.
Regards
Fred
StevefromPa, Adriatic, and SNCF231E - just to add to the confusion below is a timeline progression of the trademark from some boxed sets of Bing.
Box lid from train cataloged in 1904 - Clockwork European outline engine
Box lid from train cataloged 1914 - American Market
Box lid from trains mid-1920's - train set is NYC for the American market. Cars have plated wheels and are illuminated
Box lid from trains cataloged late 1920's - Generic set - electric outline locomotive passenger train would fit in anywhere
found this American flyer tank car on ebay, I am partial to the color yellow
@Popi very cool AF tanker. Have acouple AF prewar- tanker is on my to get list! Also like that it’s Texaco as well!
An thanks for those pics @Robert S. Butler !! Gonna addthese to my Bing Logo Library lol. Actually just got my first piece with the logo from the last box you purchased. Part of a Passenger platform, Yellow stamped on the bottom.
This website is one of the websites I’ve been using for timeline purposes.
Any idea if the embossed logos on the bottom of cars and the earlier litho’d trademarks on the frame differ from the logos on the boxes they came in? I have quite a few American Market cars with embossed bottom logos that are all over the place(plain GBN like in your first pic, BW Germany like in your second pic. Then I have an English Market freight wagon and a German Market Baggage car with an litho’d logo on the top ends of the car that is similar to your last pic- although not sure if it says “Made in” in front of Germany.
My favorite litho’d logo is from a 14780 Baggage car(looks just like this https://www.historytoy.com/bub...ge-car-green-gauge-0 ) except there’s only a 14780 on one side, on the other side there’s a logo that has a KB over the BW. See pic below:
The KB over BW logo dates from the 1930's takeover of Bing by Karl Bub. I don't know how long that combined logo lasted. The actual year for the logo transition was 1933 - according to Claude Jeanmarie's book Bing Modellbahnen.
Robert S. Butler posted:StevefromPa, Adriatic, and SNCF231E - just to add to the confusion below is a timeline progression of the trademark from some boxed sets of Bing.
Box lid from train cataloged in 1904 - Clockwork European outline engine
Box lid from train cataloged 1914 - American Market
Box lid from trains mid-1920's - train set is NYC for the American market. Cars have plated wheels and are illuminated
Box lid from trains cataloged late 1920's - Generic set - electric outline locomotive passenger train would fit in anywhere
I believe the GBN logo means gebruder bing nuremberg, or Brothers Bing of Nuremberg. I would guess the reason why they used Bavaria in the 20's for the American market was because of the anti-German sentiment from WW1.
George
I have been desperately trying to give my wallet a bit of a rest lately ... the moths that live in there have been complaining raucously!
I was doing so well , until one of my weakness's appeared on the 'bay and forced my hand 
I really dont know why I have this weakness for Wittrock stuff, probably because it was only made for a few years and you dont see it very often. Being Danish in origin its not super well known outside of Denmark ...
Apologies for the photos as they are stolen off the listings ( haven't shipped to me yet)
So I got my third Clockwork Loco ...
And a nice little Postal Wagon
A cute little blue DSB Carriage..
DSB Freight...
And one especially for Fred @sncf231e
At first I wasnt too sure if the seller had got it right listing it as a Wittrock .. but using advanced Google-foo I did find it in a wittrock set picture (stolen from web)
All in all it was a good result .. only missed out on one wagon ( Fyffes "jamacan bananer")
I think there is only that one, the Carlsberg and a refrigerated van to complete my collection of Wittrock ?
Robert S. Butler posted:The KB over BW logo dates from the 1930's takeover of Bing by Karl Bub. I don't know how long that combined logo lasted. The actual year for the logo transition was 1933 - according to Claude Jeanmarie's book Bing Modellbahnen.
Yes, there was something major that happened in 1933 in that region, If not mistaken Bing (family) were of Jewish ancestory and the company was removed from his control at that time. I should caution my comments are based on memory of things read over time. That said If I remember correctly Bing then left and went to UK as he had ties with BS and other makers in the UK. Fred or another regional member can probably provide some more accurate detail. Also if you can find Bing and or KBN catalogs from the time there is overlap. A lot of the Bing cars and accesories ended up in KBN catalogs. I have some saved scans of I think a 1932 KBN cat so there may have been some overlap there. But I think Bing was gone from Germany in1933 or soon there after.
Edit, just looked the 1932 is still Bing, not KBN. it is the 1934 KBN scan that seems to show a lot of Bing stuff. Of course timeline wise this would support the 1933 change as discussed above.
Dennis,
If this helps, from the TCA:
Fortunes turned and by 1927 Bing was in serious financial trouble and the company's president, Stephan Bing, and his son, left the company. The US stock market crash of 1928 resulted in huge debts on the part of the John Bing division in New York being called in, for which the parent corporation had to take responsibility. This led to financial difficulties for Bing Werke, but given the political climate in Germany in 1932 (the Bing family was Jewish), no bank would loan Bing additional money. Bing Werke ceased to exist in August, 1932, and the assets were liquidated. Much of its tooling was acquired by rival toy companies. Falk and Krauss purchased the model steam related equipment, while Karl Bub of Bub Trains took the model train line, Fritz Hintermayr acquired the name and the gas boiler production, and Fleischmann bought up the model boat fabrication tooling and machinery. Bub continued building the Bing line of trains until the onset of WW2, and later folded completely in the 1960's. Bing went out of business for good in 1933 and the factory was abandoned.
Tom
Dennis, MNCW is has the full story. The book I cited earlier says the same thing.
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