Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version)

George S posted:

Nation Wide Lines posted:

Jim O'C posted:

George S posted:

This fascinates me a little.  Several years without a sale and a AF 3007 PA gondola sells to me. The next week another is listed on a Buy it Now sale for less. It seems I set the market. The one listed is not in as good of condition as mine, but the price is less than I paid. You will see this on both sides of the buying and selling market. There are some very fine pieces listed for sale at prices that are at the top of the market, but their condition bears the price. However, they go unsold. I'm still learning about collecting, and collecting is changing with online auctions. Yet, there is still a price you need to decide on every purchase depending on rarity and condition.

George 

they made a 3009 sand dump car but only in 4-wheel, so I think you now have all the bases covered. 

They made a 6.5 inch dump car as an 8 wheel car, it is numbered 3019.  

 

 

NWL

I think you guys are just trying to trick me with the odd American Flyer numbering schemes. 

Given the 3000 series I have collected are 9 1/2" lithographed cars, I don't think either of the dump cars could be considered part of the series. The log car is a little unusual in this set as it is the only one that is not litho, but it has the same trucks and size and is generally considered part of that series of cars. There is also a derrick car numbered in the 3000's, but it is considered part of the 3200 series cars. I still want to upgrade some of my cars, but I am pretty happy that I have one of each in pretty good condition.

George

George,

Actually, the log car has a lithographed letterboard on it, so it fits in with the other lithographed cars.  The only thing Flyer neglected to make in the 9 inch litho series is a 9-inch litho caboose.

Next up, you will have to start collecting some of the enameled 3200 series cars, such as the 3210 tank cars, which came in multiple colors.

NWL

Nation Wide Lines posted:

George S posted:

Nation Wide Lines posted:

Jim O'C posted:

George S posted:

This fascinates me a little.  Several years without a sale and a AF 3007 PA gondola sells to me. The next week another is listed on a Buy it Now sale for less. It seems I set the market. The one listed is not in as good of condition as mine, but the price is less than I paid. You will see this on both sides of the buying and selling market. There are some very fine pieces listed for sale at prices that are at the top of the market, but their condition bears the price. However, they go unsold. I'm still learning about collecting, and collecting is changing with online auctions. Yet, there is still a price you need to decide on every purchase depending on rarity and condition.

George 

they made a 3009 sand dump car but only in 4-wheel, so I think you now have all the bases covered. 

They made a 6.5 inch dump car as an 8 wheel car, it is numbered 3019.  

 

 

NWL

I think you guys are just trying to trick me with the odd American Flyer numbering schemes. 

Given the 3000 series I have collected are 9 1/2" lithographed cars, I don't think either of the dump cars could be considered part of the series. The log car is a little unusual in this set as it is the only one that is not litho, but it has the same trucks and size and is generally considered part of that series of cars. There is also a derrick car numbered in the 3000's, but it is considered part of the 3200 series cars. I still want to upgrade some of my cars, but I am pretty happy that I have one of each in pretty good condition.

George

George,

Actually, the log car has a lithographed letterboard on it, so it fits in with the other lithographed cars.  The only thing Flyer neglected to make in the 9 inch litho series is a 9-inch litho caboose.

Next up, you will have to start collecting some of the enameled 3200 series cars, such as the 3210 tank cars, which came in multiple colors.

 

NWL

Yep, I have a few of those including some custom ones. I like the dark blue. I don’t think that is original paint, correct?

George

jhz563-  What is it, and where did you get it?  Very cool!

Kirk Lindvig

Standard Gauge Module Association

www.SGMA.us

SGMA1 posted:

jhz563-  What is it, and where did you get it?  Very cool!

 

Kirk Lindvig

Standard Gauge Module Association

www.SGMA.us

It's a tin- like a cookie or candy tin, that's looks like Big Ben. It actually comes in 4 pieces and the clock works.  I saw this piece on some other folks layouts, like Papa Eastman, and have been on the lookout for one for about 6 months. it was made for Walker's Chocolate out of London.  I can post a few more pictures later tonight.

Thanks!

 

Yep, I have a few of those including some custom ones. I like the dark blue. I don’t think that is original paint, correct?

George

No, that is the original paint.  They painted them dark blue in 1928 only.  

NWL

SGMA1 posted:

Thanks!

Here’s some more photos of the Big Ben tin. 

The graphics/ lithography work for a item like this are exceptional in my opinion.  The fact that it has a working clock - I hope it works, haven’t installed a new battery yet - is just amazing. (One face has a clock and the other three faces are a matching graphic. The close up is one of the static faces.)

EDIT - the clock works with a fresh battery

Sidetrack has a greatly reduced price on the STD Gauge Bay Window caboose so I figured I should add one to my menagerie.

Steve

Been concentrating on the “make something” option lately.

More pictures later this coming weekend.

 I’m open to suggestions on the paint color.  If not gloss black, then red is my next thought.

Well I don’t know about cool but... I made a small Hornby MO type wagon as a test to see if I can make stuff before buying more tools. It’s still a bit rough as am still waiting for some files to arrive. Hopefully will look OK once finished and painted. 

Jamie Thompson posted:

Well I don’t know about cool but... I made a small Hornby MO type wagon as a test to see if I can make stuff before buying more tools. It’s still a bit rough as am still waiting for some files to arrive. Hopefully will look OK once finished and painted. 

 

Looks great, maybe do a how to on a new post. I m sure that a lot of folks would like to try and make one

Are the folded sides soldered together after he bend or are they just made tight.

Did you use a brake to do the bending or a vice?

Picked up a prewar O AF Hiawatha and rolling stock a bit rough but does run. Need to find a rear truck and have to decide if I want to repaint. Anyone know if they make repo decals for the Hiawatha?

RonH posted:

Jamie Thompson posted:

Well I don’t know about cool but... I made a small Hornby MO type wagon as a test to see if I can make stuff before buying more tools. It’s still a bit rough as am still waiting for some files to arrive. Hopefully will look OK once finished and painted. 

 

Looks great, maybe do a how to on a new post. I m sure that a lot of folks would like to try and make one

Are the folded sides soldered together after he bend or are they just made tight.

Did you use a brake to do the bending or a vice?

 

 

Thanks RonH. 

Great Suggestion I will start a new how to thread shortly.

At this stage I have only rudimentary tools so had to make do with bending them in a vice. The sides are all folded tight and no soldering. 

I will post the plans I made aswell. 

From the archives, a Flyer cabin car that was in decent shape excepting the roof, where 50% of the paint had flaked off...stripped the roof, repainted with some Krylon that approximated the faded paint:

End result:

I’m in the process of planning my track layout for a Lionel Standard and Prewar Tinplate O vintage table which will be 5x9. Below is what I have planned currently, 1 STD and 2 O loops. I do have STD and O switches, however that limited my “O” footprint. I thought about moving the O to a trestle loop or figure 8. I wasn’t planning on elaborate scenery, just structures, street lights, signal men and figures. Looking for any other suggestions or inspiration.

Thanks in advance.

Rich Wiemann posted:

I’m in the process of planning my track layout for a Lionel Standard and Prewar Tinplate O vintage table which will be 5x9. Below is what I have planned currently, 1 STD and 2 O loops. I do have STD and O switches, however that limited my “O” footprint. I thought about moving the O to a trestle loop or figure 8. I wasn’t planning on elaborate scenery, just structures, street lights, signal men and figures. Looking for any other suggestions or inspiration.

Thanks in advance.

 

I can’t see the other side of the Hellgate bridge, but you need to be careful with the approach or the engine swing and some cars will hit the side of the bridge especially with STD 42 curves. One full track section on each side might be enough, but one and a half is better. Crossovers are fun, but might not work with all tinplate engines. 

George

Thanks George for your feedback. Yes there is a full straight on the other side of the bridge. I will keep the crossover concern you brought up in mind, since I have not used one in O gauge before.

Jamie Thompson posted:

RonH posted:

Jamie Thompson posted:

Well I don’t know about cool but... I made a small Hornby MO type wagon as a test to see if I can make stuff before buying more tools. It’s still a bit rough as am still waiting for some files to arrive. Hopefully will look OK once finished and painted. 

 

Looks great, maybe do a how to on a new post. I m sure that a lot of folks would like to try and make one

Are the folded sides soldered together after he bend or are they just made tight.

Did you use a brake to do the bending or a vice?

 

 

Thanks RonH. 

Great Suggestion I will start a new how to thread shortly.

At this stage I have only rudimentary tools so had to make do with bending them in a vice. The sides are all folded tight and no soldering. 

I will post the plans I made aswell. 

 

If you're interested in making tin cars...you may find this link of interest...go here...

http://littleglitterhouses.com/MakingTinTrainCars

Howard Lamey

Rich Wiemann posted:

I’m in the process of planning my track layout for a Lionel Standard and Prewar Tinplate O vintage table which will be 5x9. Below is what I have planned currently, 1 STD and 2 O loops. I do have STD and O switches, however that limited my “O” footprint. I thought about moving the O to a trestle loop or figure 8. I wasn’t planning on elaborate scenery, just structures, street lights, signal men and figures. Looking for any other suggestions or inspiration.

Thanks in advance.

 

I suggest you create an elevated platform on which you run all your O gauge track.  This will ensure your O gauge trains are not hidden behind the your Standard Gauge trains and help you to create a "forced perspective" on your layout for added realism. 

I also suggest you add two switches to each side of the O gauge figure 8 and connect them with straight track.  This will allow you to reverse the direction of your O gauge trains on the figure 8 creating more variety (fun) in your operations.

Bob Nelson

Bob thanks for your insights. I will definitely plan on adding the switches to the figure eight. I had thought about making an elevated trestle line but not a full platform...interesting. That would allow for adding STD switches and a side line. Feedback on if the platform should be open for line of sight to the back side? I was thinking of placing a Lionel 101/102 bridge and ramp there opposite the Hells gate. Or cover the gap as a mountain side with portals for the standard to cross over?