Jim Waterman posted:
Jim, I have 7 Osisik Shops repro Ives circus cars with no trucks. This is way more than I needed, but for $80.00 for the lot, I couldn't pass them up.
Steve
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Jim Waterman posted:
Jim, I have 7 Osisik Shops repro Ives circus cars with no trucks. This is way more than I needed, but for $80.00 for the lot, I couldn't pass them up.
Steve
I forgot to mention that I also own some unfinished Osisek (sp?) circus wagons, which I purchased some years ago from Osisek's son.
Should I add wheels/axles and paint them, just add wheels and axles, or leave them as they are now, i.e., without axles, wheels, and paint?
Bob Nelson
navy.seal posted:
Bob
My 7 cars are all unpainted. I'll leave them that way. I don't have any wagons for them.
Steve
Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.
John Smatlak posted:Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.
That is really cool!!
Joe Gozzo
John Smatlak posted:Here's an interesting little mystery item. While technically not a toy train accessory, it certainly works well as one! It's a tinplate powerhouse facade with a lineshaft and pulleys for connecting up other accessories to your steam powered plant. Anyone have an idea who might have made it? There is no maker's mark on it. The litho for the factory interior scene on the back side is incredible! Also alongside in these photos are some Ives One Gauge- a 3239 and a 3240. This particular 3240 needs to find a new home by the way in case anyone out there is looking for one.
John,
This is really cool and fascinating. I tried researching it but didn't find much online. The transmission wheels look German and pre-war, maybe Bing or Plank. The litho is very bright and colorful with lots of artistic detail. Bing made some animated tin litho figures that were driven by a toy steam engine. Those look similar to the metal shop figures on the inside of your toy. The wood base has a rich stain color. That does not look like other Bing wooden bases I have seen. The litho art reminds me of Ives on the outside. My guess is that this is late German, per-war. It's probably not Bing, because they would have marked it. Hopefully, someone will chime in on its origin. It's quite a find though! I would build a windup or electric powered "steam" unit to power the transmission wheel. Maybe you could add one of the Bing animated workers to drive off of that?
George
Yes, it's very nicely done.
I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no markings on those metal wheels?
John, did you find it on eBay?
Tom
The litho also could be Mohr & Krause.
MNCW posted:Yes, it's very nicely done.
I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no marking on those metal wheels?
John, did you find it on eBay?
Tom
I would suspect the base is original as the item would need weight if connected to motors to turn the wheels, otherwise it would tip over too easy.
I realize that this thread is about buying or making things that are tinplate related. So this post is a bit of a stretch, but today my wife and I closed on a new home for the "Northwoods Flyer Collection" - which is mainly all tinplate.
This is where the collection and layout will be housed.A new adventure begins....
Northwoods Flyer
Greg
Wow. Greg... what a great environment for some train activity. Congratulations!!
Fendermain
Greg,
Very nice. What part of the country are you in, if I can ask?
Good luck on your layout. Hope you post pictures of your progress. I hope to retire in 3-5 years and move to Upstate NY.
Tom
Congrats Greg! It looks fantastic. Now the race is on to see which one of us gets trains running first. It looks like your room is further along than mine, but I’m sure you have plenty of other distractions moving in.
George
MNCW posted:Yes, it's very nicely done.
I wonder if the wood base was added at a later date. If it was mine I would not suggest doing this so John, just talking out loud...if the base was pried off, I wonder if there could be any markings between the base and the building and no marking on those metal wheels?
John, did you find it on eBay?
Tom
To Tom’s point, the litho design does not look like it was made with the intent of being mounted to the base. The design runs onto the folds. Is it possible that this is a very well done, homemade piece from a promotional tin? There is a small black mark on the inside where the transmission shaft goes through the side of the tin, almost as if to mark with a magic marker where to drill the hole. The transmission wheels appear to be repainted off the shaft or never used. I searched a bunch of toy databases, because I really like this, but I came up empty.
George
wow Greg...I don't see much reason to go upstairs with a space like that.
To George's point - the other things that argue for a kitbashed item are the unfinished look of some of the edges, the way the base litho is just an extension of what should be the litho of the sides of the building, and the lack of bearings for the shaft to prevent wear to the mounting holes on the side of the building. Even so, it is a neat looking item.
I'm with Steamer Greg - no point in going upstairs for quite awhile.
Dear tinplate gurus,
I got three huge boxes of treasure this week. Among the stuff is a 1664 steamer, two tenders, #1679 and #2679 Baby Ruth cars, and cabooses #2672 and #2657. In the collection was a very old box shown below. I can't find any information on a 6066 tender. Is that the tender for the 1664?
The 2657 caboose is amazing. Must be low mileage.
Odenville Bill posted:Dear tinplate gurus,
I got three huge boxes of treasure this week. Among the stuff is a 1664 steamer, two tenders, #1679 and #2679 Baby Ruth cars, and cabooses #2672 and #2657. In the collection was a very old box shown below. I can't find any information on a 6066 tender. Is that the tender for the 1664?
The 2657 caboose is amazing. Must be low mileage.
According to Tandem Associates, the 6066T was a smaller version of the 2426W and was primarily used on the Scout sets in the early 1950s. Locomotives listed for 1952 were 2026, 2034 and 2037; and for 1953 the 1130, 2026 and 2037.
http://www.tandem-associates.c...ltenders03.htm#PAGE3
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