Buy/Make Anything Cool Lately (Tinplate Version)

@jhz563 posted:

@StevefromPA they actually had another Marx crane with those bars, but it was missing the hook and instead had the string tied around a barrel.  For $15 ,either way I took the one with the hook.

might benefit from an Erector Set shed.

@Nation Wide Lines posted:

Yes, the correct 420 for the double header has extra weights.  

Thought this might be right up your alley NWL. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vinta...p2060353.m1438.l2649

Just got these Ives items in the mail today.

The orange 3255 and its cars each have a sticker like this:

Not all of them have ‘CXNN’ on the sticker. The 135 Parlor cars have ‘RSN’ and the 136 has ‘RSN’ and ‘3255 - 2 -135 1 -136 - Orange ANNX’.

@Lionel2056 posted:

Just got these Ives items in the mail today.

The orange 3255 and its cars each have a sticker like this:

Not all of them have ‘CXNN’ on the sticker. The 135 Parlor cars have ‘RSN’ and the 136 has ‘RSN’ and ‘3255 - 2 -135 1 -136 - Orange ANNX’.

The Kuehnle's sticker indicates that they came out of Bernie Kuehnle's collection, which was sold through Bertoia in 2003 or 2004.  I know that Bernie marked all of his items with tags and the CXNN / RSN would have been some sort of cataloging method of Bernie.  I bought a few items from his collection and all of them came with those tags and some markings on the tag.  I would suspect if you were able to find the Bertoia Catalog for that auction, you could find those items.

NWL

The mailman delivered these today.  I really wanted the 3046 log car, as it is an upgrade.  The 3046 log cars with blue frames are harder to find.

The rest of the cars show a bit of dirt, but should clean nicely.

NWL

@terry hudon posted:

what could be a better bday present ,,,,,,the mth black diamond cars,,,,olympian diner and bacon !!

Mmmmm...... bacon.....

Just acquired the Marklin 2012B station from the 1930.  Had a serious case of rust

on the platform but my Hornby hedges covered it up nicely.  Here it is.

Hope you guys noticed that the Lionel 238EW has six wheel drivers and looks like the original streamlined K4s. I didn't convert it, but found it in a Florida model RR shop a few years ago.

Lew

Marx pre-war 897 with wedge tender RI gondola and NYC caboose

tcox009:  What a great find, the 897 lithographed engine is a bit of a hard find and yours seems in wonderful condition.  Thanks for posting.  StevefromPA :  In looking at your station, I was surprised by its similarity to one I have that has been previously identified as Hafner.  The shape is nearly identical as far as I can tell and as you will see from the pictures the lithography, although different somewhat in color, has very similar treatment of the windows and stonework.

Finally just fooling around today, I tried to take some "off layout" pictures of some recent trains I acquired while on vacation.  You may know my "Leonardtown and Savannah" is a late war years RR with one terminus at the wartime port of Savannah.  Today, the mid day express is running cargo down to the port for a special assignment. They are loading an old wooden sailboat with some secret cargo.  The ship, although slow, can hug the coast and once under sail makes almost no sound for submarines to pick up.  Plus what Sub captain is going to wast a torpedo on an old hulk like this...She has pulled this masquerade off before with success. 

Happy Tuesday

Don

@handyandy posted:

Mmmmm....... bacon.....

What a great find!  That Olympian dining car is rare! 

Bob Nelson

PS.  I haven't seen production numbers on any of MTH's/Lionel's tinplate.  Does anyone have them?

 I’ve had my eye on a car like this for a long time. There have been plenty on eBay but this one was unique

8 wheel, Number 20508 Karl Bub/Bing Baggage car with dual “KB/BW” logo(right side under the window)! Very excited to have gotten this- I’ve seen the purely Bing version but never this one. It has more Bing like features than Bub. Also says “Made in Bavaria” on the top of each end. Trucks are just like the ones on my 8 wheel American Bing passenger cars.

For comparison- With a 4 wheeled Bing counterpart

For further comparrison- on the left is the 14780 Bub/Bing, again same dual logo this time on the left side. The car on the right is pure Bub with KBN on the top of one side

I just think it’s reeally neat how the cars show the history of the link between these two companies. So chalk up another green, German Baggage car to the collection!

@Don McErlean regarding your comments, I was gonna bring up something similar to you! Having remembered our previous conversation. Hafner’s #1200 series had the freight station(like the one you have), passenger station, and passenger platform- all had 10 inch long bases. I happened to recently acquire the passenger platform as well(had the passenger station for awhile):

Sure enough, the length of the base on this platform and my Hafner passenger station measured 10 inches and matched up perfectly. On the other hand, the station that I have had a longer base. Also, I think is a combination of items from different companies due to the missing Bing symbol on the back, color scheme, base, etc...

Stay tuned for a new Prewar Tinplate set! Bid on it at a local auction house back in March, auction was just held this Sunday due to covid. Should have it Friday!

Steve,

the KB / BW double trademark is only printed on Bub models, never on a Bing model. Was used only 1933 - early months 1934, later it was forbidden by the copyright owner of the Bing trademark.

Here a few Bub cars with the double trademark

Bub had buyed some tools from Bing after 1932, but the Bing trademark was not used on them by Bub.

Here a example

Bub car 1607/0 was Bing 10/5117

Left Bub right Bing

Printing on frame is a bit different, Bing on top.

Arne

@Arne was hoping you’d comment! Thank you, as always, for the helpful knowledge and the pictures! I really appreciate it. I know that a lot of the Prewar European, especially German, train manufacturers made trains for each other(Bing for Basset-Lowke)- prior to the beginning of the Nazi’s assuming power in Germany.

I used poor wording by calling the train “Karl Bub/Bing”. It implies that the two companies we’re partners which they were not. I thought I knew much more about the history of Bing, but your info prompted me to re-read the entry on the TCA western page of manufacturera and there’s been some additions. -I attributed Bub’s use of Bing tooling and the logo as some type of collaboration between Stephen Bing and KBN after the forced shutdown of the German Bing factory and Stephen Bing’s fleeing to The UK. Didn’t realize that different Bing tooling was divided among a number of companies. I had no idea that Stephen Bing allowed KBN the use of and then revoked the use of  the Bing logo. thought I knew much more about the history of Bing, but your info prompted me to re-read the entry on the TCA western page of manufacturera and there’s been some additions. Thanks again for the info and sharing those pictures!

Saw this boxcar and had to buy it...

Here are the Prewar  Lionels To which I alluded in my last post;

Olive green 252 with cast headlight and hand-lever reverse unit. 805 boxcar, late(?) 803 hopper and 807 Caboose 

Scratch built “L Co.” industrialbuilding with larger tank with CIties Services logo

Hi,

I bought this nice 1990s vintage MTH Tinplate Traditions Stephen Girard 4 car set last week online to go with my 392e. I originally bought the 392e to pull 200 series freight which it does well, and then I came to learn it was really made to pull the Girard cars. This loco will now be a dual purpose engine on my layout and the SGMA club layouts. I thought these cars would look good with the loco, and on my 0-54 curves. I happened to be alerted to a shop that was having a sale on tinplate and checked it out, and there it was this nice NOS set at a decent price.

When unboxing, the first thing I noticed there was these cars have never seen the track, second thing was there were no chairs in the car, just a bench along both sides, I have the blue comet cars, the state cars, so I am used to seeing the chairs. I thought it was a mistake, so I stopped unboxing, checked online and saw that was the way they were supposed to be.Relief...back to unboxing and oiling the axles. Ran the train, and it was perfect and quite pretty.

Now, I am thinking about getting a baggage car and a No. 9. to match the cars as well. If anyone knows of either for sale please let me know. The hunt never ends.

@Craignor congratulations on your recent purchase. These are some really sharp looking passenger cars and go nicely behind the 392E. You should get many years of enjoyment from them. Could you share the store that was having the sale either here or just drop me an email, which is in my profile. 

Rich,

Thanks. Unfortunately, the sale is over, and they are completely sold out of tinplate.

It was called All About Toy Trains, the store website is:

https://www.allabouttoytrains.com/

I bought a 9e on EBay to pull my Stephen Girard cars.