Can Someone Identify This please...

It's a Lionel 2-8-0 Long Island 38036.

Wow that was fast, thank you Chuck! 

Is there a website that might give more information, such as year built, etc.?

Mark in Oregon

I am glad you were able to find out what it is. Peculiar that a tender did not come with it. Is it a die cast engine??? I was looking at the photo and it looks like the cow catcher is bent away from the boiler............Paul

Paul

I dunno anything about this, other than I didn't have to pay much for it.  

I can only guess that it's die cast. Finding a (matching) tender may prove to be difficult...

If there's any interest, I will post some additional photos and observations when it arrives.

Mark in Oregon

Google Lionel 38036 and click on the Lionel link.....all the information you could want.

This is a TMCC Odyssey locomotive.  All of the electronics are in the tender.  I have never tried running mine without the tender.  Good luck.

"although non-Pennsy valve gear"

It is?

Danr posted:

This is a TMCC Odyssey locomotive.  All of the electronics are in the tender.  I have never tried running mine without the tender.  Good luck.

Unless the loco is too small, only the sound electronics are in the tender on modern Lionel steamers; the running electronics (TMCC/Odyssey) are in the locomotive and they can run without the tender. No sound, of course. If you have a wireless (IR) tether, only the sound is in the tender, as the wireless tether is a data link and transmits no electrical current for the motor, etc. If you have a "hard tether", it can be used for anything. (This is why the MTH "wireless" tether isn't, really.)

Chuck Sartor posted:

Google Lionel 38036 and click on the Lionel link.....all the information you could want.

I tried that, several times...with no luck.  

Mark in Oregon

D500 posted:

"although non-Pennsy valve gear"

It is?

I think so.

Doesn't the photo look more like a Baker type of gear????? 

In any case, I don't usually run 3 rail O; the only Lionel I still have is a handful of stuff from the late '40s; 1666, 2026, etc.

I just thought it might make a nice display piece...if I can get it to run, all the better. 

Mark in Oregon

The valve gear appears to be a crude rendition of a Walschaerts style gear, which would be correct for this locomotive.

Buzz

Strummer posted:

I won this on eBay just this morning; here is a photo I took off the listing:

As (I hope!) you can see by the photo, it has very nice details, including "open" spoke drivers and brake shoes, although non-Pennsy valve gear. It shows a Lionel-type drawbar, so I can only assume it was made before tenders with sound(?) The tender was not included in the sale...

I've checked other listings for 2-8-0s, and have found nothing that matches; the nearest I can find, detail-wise, are some "3rd Rail" models, which I know nothing about.

It's my hope that, upon arrival, there will be some sort of "builder's plate" on the bottom to identify the maker...in the meantime, any guesses?

Thanks!

Mark in Oregon

Looks exactly like a Pennsy Walschaerts valve gear to me!

For display, a tender ought to be easy.  Any of the Saginaw/CLW tenders would look ok, but I bet Lionel will sell you a shell for a reasonable $.

Big Jim posted:

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Looks exactly like a Pennsy Walschaerts valve gear to me!

Ok then. I guess I was basing my comment on the type seen on the K,L and other classes, which I think looks to be a different style(?)

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong (again).  😊

Still trying to find more info on the model itself...

Mark in Oregon 

There is a lot of information on Lionel's website. You said you were having problems finding it. If you do a google search for Lionel 38036 you should come up with the information page.

I think all PRR except the J used Walschaerts.  The radius rod/eccentric rod length ratio varies all over the map.  Of course they had Stevenson, and maybe a couple of poppet engines, but all the major locomotives, from A to T, used Walschaerts.

edit: Opinion.

Chuck Sartor posted:

There is a lot of information on Lionel's website. You said you were having problems finding it. If you do a google search for Lionel 38036 you should come up with the information page.

Tried again...and had success this time.

Thank you Chuck!

Wow; this appears to be a rather complicated model...

Mark in Oregon

Great buy for less than $50.  I was watching it as well, you saved me some money   I guess it is the sister to this one....  here's what your tender will look like when you find/buy one.

 Here is a link to the Lionel page

http://www.lionel.com/products...on-103-tmcc-6-38036/

If you have a TMCC base you can try and see if the locomotive will run with it... then you can find out if the locomotive is in fact a TMCC locomotive because most TMCC engines have all of the TMCC components in the engine, and just the sound unit in the tender.  It won’t hurt the locomotive either because all that’s happening is that there won’t be any sound coming from the tender.