C&O streamlined hudson

Drop dead gorgeous!  Makes those ugly Daylight and N&W Northerns look absolutely silly.  The only locomotive better looking than this is that gorgeous Lehigh Valley thing they painted like a red butterfly.  No, wait:  the UP had some stunning streamlined steam!

OPin - er, humor, please.

Please post link to 'Scott'?  Who is thinking of making a scale version of this.   I have the semi-scale MTH Railking version and I'd like to get a scale version.   I asked Mike Wolf if he'd ever make a Premier version and he said no.   I know Lionel makes a model that is closer to scale (longer tender) but a full scale 3 rail DCS version would be my choice.   I've visited the Yellow Belly at the B&O museum in Baltimore and it is an icon of steam.

Not a C&O follower, so won't be ordering, but stunning locomotive and quite worthy of production by Sunset 3rd Rail. Amazingly, hidden somewhere inside that cowl is a rebuilt Pacific!!  With the recent popularity of streamlined steam locomotives, my bet is this will be a success for Scott !

You should know that the real locomotive is at the B&O Railroad Museum in Baltimore.

Joe

http://www.3rdrail.com/reservation.html

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm not a fan of this one..........

I submitted my reservation.  Hopefully it gets made.

Father of Minions!

Or...So that's where Oakley got the idea!

No thank you.

Hopefully this will open the possibility for some other streamlined steamers. I'd love to get a CB&Q Aeolus, one for which Scott already has the bones. 

Merlyn got my order yesterday.  Latter yellow for me . The Aeolus should definitely be next .  Thanks Scott!!!!

i wonder what typical run is on something like this.   25-50 -100?

It's somewhat tantalizing.  I've walked by the real one several times at the B&O RR museum and didn't give it much thought then, yet I think I may need a revisit.  How are the sound recordings for it, any real ones survive?

I'd be up for a C&O Unstreamlined L2a, but not the yellow bellie, as I remember the 1st and last time I layed eyes on it as a Kid of the early 50's, it was being washed and serviced behind the Old NYC/C&O Round House at Water Street yard in Downtown Louisville...Looked like another diesel to me, but I was just a Young Kid, and knew nothing...…! 

CB&Q S4 Aeolus!!!!!

CB&Q  Aeolus for shure!!!

3rd rail indicated min radius for 3 rail version is going to be 054 track and 072 switches. shame it rules out all who have 060 track/switches or smaller. otherwise I would buy in a heartbeat.

Baltimore Railroad museum.  Image from the museum's website. 

Did C&O add a 4-wheel trailing truck due to the increased weight of the streamlining?  Did the trailing truck have 2 different size wheels?  The wheel center spacing already looks close and the journal centers are not parallel or so it appears in some pictures I’ve seen.   Tia

Santiago- PSC did the Aeolus if you didn’t already know.  

Brandy- OMI did the L2a with poppet valves (Model has working shaft), probably one of the most challenging models to ship due to the fragile linkage.  

Lionel produced a semi-scale version of this locomotive many years ago.  How far out of scale is it?

Jan

Jan posted:

Lionel produced a semi-scale version of this locomotive many years ago.  How far out of scale is it?

Jan

If it were truly semi (meaning half) it would be half 1/48 or 1/96.

Semi-scale is just a con, no such thing. File it with cabeese.

Simon

hahaha yeah "semi-scale" is hilarious

tangoman posted:

3rd rail indicated min radius for 3 rail version is going to be 054 track and 072 switches. shame it rules out all who have 060 track/switches or smaller. otherwise I would buy in a heartbeat.

Why would that be?

PRR 5841 posted:

Did C&O add a 4-wheel trailing truck due to the increased weight of the streamlining?  Did the trailing truck have 2 different size wheels?  The wheel center spacing already looks close and the journal centers are not parallel or so it appears in some pictures I’ve seen.   Tia

The trailing truck did have two different sizes of wheels. According to a C&OHS publication the addition of a Franklin E-1 booster and the oversized streamlined cab added a lot of weight. The total weight on the rear truck was 97, 700 pounds, a 57% increase over the F19 Pacific it was built from.

Ken

Jan posted:

Lionel produced a semi-scale version of this locomotive many years ago.  How far out of scale is it?

Jan

Lionel used their used NYC Hudson frame and drivers for the basis of their L-1. The actual L-1 is longer overall than the NYC Hudson and the NYC engine had 79" drivers vs. the 74" drivers on the L-1. So the Lionel version is a bit off from what scale model of the L-1 would be. Why they called it semi scale is a mystery. Lionel has put out a lot of "scale" engines that weren't actual scale copies of the real engine.

Ken

kanawha posted:

Jan posted:

Lionel produced a semi-scale version of this locomotive many years ago.  How far out of scale is it?

Jan

Lionel used their used NYC Hudson frame and drivers for the basis of their L-1. The actual L-1 is longer overall than the NYC Hudson and the NYC engine had 79" drivers vs. the 74" drivers on the L-1. So the Lionel version is a bit off from what scale model of the L-1 would be. Why they called it semi scale is a mystery. Lionel has put out a lot of "scale" engines that weren't actual scale copies of the real engine.

Ken

Marketing, as in $$$$$$$. Somewhere a while back, the 3 rail crowd  (or at least some of them) got interested in "SCALE", as in 3 Rail Scale. Hard to sell something labeled "almost to scale" of "almost correct", so we got a new meaningless term.

To be fair, a large percentage of high end brass is not 100% accurate, off a bit here or there, but still a pretty nice rendition when compared to the toy side. I have heard some of the 2 rail gurus say the only totally accurate model, is the Car and Locomotive shop Southern Pacific 4-10-2 brought in by the late Henry Bultmann. I hope he is up there somewhere taking comfort in those accolades.

Simon