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I'm definitely in for the Base 3 to start.
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I'll have to look. Going to be a good long look all evening and hopefully Ryan and Dave will talk in length about the Class A with and without the cover over the steam turret(maybe someone can poke them into talking about that when they're live).
Pilot Class A, most of the ES44s, especially excited about the IC ES44, Polar Express VL passenger car, Aberdeen Carolina and Western locos and cars and the UP ROCKET SET!
Forgot to add the Amtrak Cabbage units.
NOOOOOO, Lionel you are killing me. B&A berkshire is back in the catalog. But no green version. Maybe I can get a dealer to do a special run. Stock cars three pack but 450.00 list!!!!
So is the Safety steam the "New Feature to be announced" on the N&W Class A? Also, why does the Min Curve say O54 on page 16, but O72 on the previous page? Typo?
More money kept in my pocket.
Pretty sure we are seeing some more on the MTH dies (0-6-0, SW1 in addition to other known items).
Vision Line ATSF & UP Stock Cars, BNSF Anniversay Diesel and Caboose, Amtrak F40 and maybe Cabbage cars, the Amfleet Cars and the 21" cars.
The UP Rocket Booster set looks pretty cool
By no means the most significant find in the catalog, but just had to mention the re-issue of the classic Lionel 175 Rocket Launcher as a NASA-themed accessory. It's been YEARS since that item was produced.
Yeah, going to be a bit before I figure all this stuff out. I browsed through, and not sure which VL Class A I will get, just know that it is not the shiny 1218 or any fantasy bits. Between the WWII & Post WWII. I'll figure that out later. Other than that, don't know.
So it appears that the information that traditional smaller, less expensive O gauge stuff would only be on-line was faulty? The 44 Tonners at $250 MSRP seem like good value. The ZW-L is now close to $1000 dollars MSRP. Thomas set which was 200 bucks is now 250 bucks. That's a big increase. Glad I already have a ZW-L 
. Like Marty, I'll be ordering the Cab 3 base.
I also notice the American Flyer catalog, while small compared with the 250 page O gauge behemoth, is 44 pages. Should please someone, I'd hope.
This catalog suggests that Lionel's financial health is, as stated, reasonably good to great. You don't plan for this huge product variety and amount of innovation if you are the equivalent of Lionel in 1968. This catalog speaks to optimism and ambition, not doom and gloom. Good news for the hobby considering the loss of K-Line, Weaver and the downsizing of MTH.
Liking the WW2 version of the Class A…assuming the smokebox isn’t that terrible gray they’ve been using lately. And they use articulated chuff (looking at you VL Challenger).
I'm in for the Lionel Base 3 , and the NYC 060
Alex
@Landsteiner posted:So it appears that the information that traditional smaller, less expensive O gauge stuff would only be on-line was faulty? The 44 Tonners at $250 MSRP seem like good value. The ZW-L is now close to $1000 dollars MSRP. Glad I already have one
I also notice the American Flyer catalog, while small compared with the 250 page O gauge behemoth, is 44 pages. Should please someone, I'd hope.
No, the information was correct. The hard copies of the catalog only contain the higher end scale stuff whereas the digital version contains both scale and traditional.
I am looking at the base 3 to start and then the Atlantic in Southern caught my eye.
The Good News: There's a traditionally sized PRR S2 Turbine.
The Bad News: They used the MTH tooling, which is even SMALLER than the Lionel!
Jon 
@pbuff posted:So is the Safety steam the "New Feature to be announced" on the N&W Class A? Also, why does the Min Curve say O54 on page 16, but O72 on the previous page? Typo?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the new BIG announcement was being able to address the engine with 4 digits as opposed to 2. Other engines have already had variations on where steam sprays out of the engine or tender.
Another notable feature is that I believe he said there was a speaker in the engine… I don’t think that’s been done before?
There are a couple of videos fromLionel on YouTube in regards to the new engine and the CAB3. They don’t go into too much depth but they do a high-level overview of the features.
So far, just the ATSF 2-10-4.
I’m a little disappointed by the VL Class A. What was the fourth “special feature”? The 4 digit addressing? All the other features, including the safety steam (VL Niagara) have already been on previous locos haven’t they?
Well, inflation happened! Container costs, and lots of newly printed $ is likely why the es44 jumped $100. At least I don’t need anything in the catalog upon initial inspection. The csx b&o corporate was really cool though
@Alec_6460 posted:So far, just the ATSF 2-10-4.
I’m a little disappointed by the VL Class A. What was the fourth “special feature”? The 4 digit addressing? All the other features, including the safety steam (VL Niagara) have already been on previous locos haven’t they?
Yep.
@MartyE posted:I'm definitely in for the Base 3 to start.
My question is, has Lionel discontinued the manufacturing of any handheld controllers? It’s great that the CAB3 is compatible with the CAB1 in the CAB2 handheld remotes, but if you don’t have your hands on either of those emotes already, are you forced to use the phone app?
I like that the CAB3 allow control of all these operating systems.
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@VJandP posted:My question is, has Lionel discontinued the manufacturing of any handheld controllers? It’s great that the CAB3 is compatible with the CAB1 in the CAB2 handheld remotes, but if you don’t have your hands on either of those emotes already, are you forced to use the phone app?
I like that the CAB3 allow control of all these operating systems.
The CAB1 L was in the catalog, but there is not a Cab 2 to be found in the new catalog.
Dang, I was hoping to the Cab3 app would be available to download soon. Dave just said later this year. Which sounds like months to me.
The Railway gun and Minuteman boxcar are definitely on my list. And I have no clue if I'll actually pull the trigger on it but those Legacy a5 0-4-0s are looking really nice. Considering how the Lionchief ones practically go for the same price second hand might as well go the extra mile I guess
So far it looks like the NYC 0-6-0 and B&O Bobber Caboose. I would also consider the PRR 0-6-0 if they make the tender MTH previously made for that version. The catalog art shows them all the same. WWII Class A would be nice but doubt I spring for one of those. I always liked the B&A Berkshire but probably not enough with the current tally I would have so far. I also like the Angela Trotta Thomas Hudson boxcar.
I'm sort of liking this. Would be my first LC+2.0
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I'm looking at the Aberdeen Carolina and Western F9 AB set, and debating the cars.
@MartyE posted:Yep.
Disappointing. That doesn’t move the needle for me at all. And I resent the tease of something so “exciting” they kept it a secret and then its something like that. I assumed it would be a new smoke or other operating feature. (No disrespect to anyone who thinks that’s an awesome innovation…I don’t have enough operating Lionel stuff for 2 digit addressing to be a problem for me)
It does look like they are not wanting to make the remotes and wanting to move to using your phone or tablet to control trains with, which for someone like me just getting setup in O scale will leave me without a remote. Phone control is ok but I would rather have a remote.
Been wanting one of the Genesis Lion Chief Plus 2.0 locos since they were initially cataloged last year. I knew from Ryan's comments that they would be offering more, especially the various Anniversary liveries.
I'm in on the Midnight Blue #100 version. Great looking loco.
But will need some suitable passenger car sets. Not sure those 2-packs on the following pages are what I want. Will be looking around for some other options, including other manufacturers.
EDIT: Offhand, the other item that caught my eye was one of the LC Plus 2.0 Hudsons. If I do get one of those, Lionel Lines is likely to be my choice
@Keith1366 posted:It does look like they are not wanting to make the remotes and wanting to move to using your phone or tablet to control trains with, which for someone like me just getting setup in O scale will leave me without a remote. Phone control is ok but I would rather have a remote.
As posted above the Cab1L is still being made. I'm not sure it's a matter of wanting to make a Cab3 Hardware remote but able. Just too much changing too quickly IMO.
I’m a sucker for scale PolEx stuff. I really like the thought of this car, but it appears to be a blend of both versions of the scale PolEx passenger cars. The lettering is above the stripe and windows which is consistent with the early release of the cars (black roof). But, it has a snow roof like the second release (which had the lettering below the stripe and windows). In other words, as illustrated, it’s not correct for either release.
I’m in if they make a proper black roof version to match the original release. 
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On my bucket list. • Also need to see the catalog as a hardcopy!
Gary 🚂
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The horse cars are interesting, but it would be nice to have an option without sound. At the MSRP I can find a brass one. I know they will be discounted somewhere, but I'd still want to rip the electronics out. I like the Amtrak Heritage set as well. Not much else in there does much for me, but then I am not Lionel's demographic.
@KOOLjock1 posted:The Good News: There's a traditionally sized PRR S2 Turbine.
The Bad News: They used the MTH tooling, which is even SMALLER than the Lionel!
Jon
The set is shown on two rail gauge track !
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@Rider Sandman posted:I’m a sucker for scale PolEx stuff. I really like the thought of this car, but it appears to be a blend of both versions of the scale PolEx passenger cars. The lettering is above the stripe and windows which is consistent with the early release of the cars (black roof). But, it has a snow roof like the second release (which had the lettering below the stripe and windows). In other words, as illustrated, it’s not correct for either release.
I’m in if they make a proper black roof version to match the original release.
I'm in for that as well.
Could someone define what a "force coupler" is? Is this where it continues to open when you dont want it to and you force it shut with a zip tie LOL...
Looks like 1218 will have a silver smoke box. I thought these had black smoke box's plus no cab2 remotes?
@MartyE posted:I'm in for that as well.
Do you have white roof or black roof cars? Does the “snow” on the white roof cars have a thickness/texture or is it smooth such that it could be painted black to match the early cars?
Would be great to know what they are actually intending to build. I can’t imagine they are planning to release it as drawn given it matches neither release of the exiting cars.
@Farmall-Joe posted:Could someone define what a "force coupler" is? Is this where it continues to open when you dont want it to and you force it shut with a zip tie LOL...
Force coupler was first introduced in the VL Niagara and basically replaces the manual operation of increasing/decreasing the chuff labor. The drawbar has a sensor that can tell when the locomotive is pulling a sizable load. Depending on the weight of the load determines how much labor the locomotive will produce.
@GG1 4877 posted:The horse cars are interesting, but it would be nice to have an option without sound. At the MSRP I can find a brass one. I know they will be discounted somewhere, but I'd still want to rip the electronics out.
Well if you do that, I'd buy the electronics off you. I like the horse car idea, and the fact it has sounds, but I think CNW only ran heavyweight ones. Keep it in mind!
The CNW Berkshire was a surprise, that's the biggest freight steamer they had, and hardly any other CNW heavy freight steamers have been made. I wondered if Lionel would make a pig version of their VL stock cars, and I'm looking forward to getting at least the sound car from it.
Time to start dipping into Legacy/TMCC, things aren't going to get cheaper. I pre-ordered a Base3 and a couple of Cab1L's. Plenty for my needs. At this point I like the idea of using the Cab3 app as a monitor more than a controller.
Is it just me or does it seem the online catalog itself is easier to navigate? Previously, I had issues with scrolling, zooming in on pictures, and the occasional crashing. Going through the new catalog, I haven’t had any issues.
Where are you guys doing all your preordering?
So far, I'm only considering the LV bobber. Eventually I'm sure I'll get the new control system, but since I don't have a layout (and just bought Legacy at the last York meet), I'll hold off. Does anyone know if it will control conventional engines on its own? Or will it still need the powermaster?
Lots of items in this catalog, but the only definite, (probably, maybe,) purchase is a LionChief 2.0 Lionel Lines Hudson.
Item # 2232040 <== Fixed the item number, accidentally deleted last digit.
As someone who lives about 40 minutes away from it, the Black River & Western SW1 set is VERY tempting.
I’ll say I’m pretty impressed seeing all the MTH tooling now with Lionel electronics, both in the less expensive and the LEGACY product lines.
@Jdjones24 posted:Where are you guys doing all your preordering?
Yeah, wondered the same. To each his own with their favorite dealers. But I will wait for Charles Ro who usually has pre-order sheets up in a few days. He'll get mine.
And there's no rush anyway. Pre-order deadline likely to be late FEB.
It is again time to show my ignorance ...
If I were to purchase the new command base, but still wanted to use a hand held remote, I would need to keep the old base for recharging the remote, yes? Also, would the two bases interfere with each other (besides competing for limited space on the control panel) in any way?
I don't have that big of a layout and I wonder if the juice of a new base is worth the squeeze.
Thanks,
Jim
@GregM posted:Lots of items in this catalog, but the only definite, (probably, maybe,) purchase is this LionChief 2.0 Lionel Lines Hudson.
Item # 223204
Is this the first time they have offered this one with the open spoke drivers? Looks nice - I would be tempted as well.
@superwarp1 posted:NOOOOOO, Lionel you are killing me. B&A berkshire is back in the catalog. But no green version. Maybe I can get a dealer to do a special run. Stock cars three pack but 450.00 list!!!!
Are these new Berks smaller than the Previous Legacy Berks?
@GregM posted:Lots of items in this catalog, but the only definite, (probably, maybe,) purchase is this LionChief 2.0 Lionel Lines Hudson.
Item # 223204
If it is comparable to the new Baby K4s, it'll be a winner!
Jon
@Alabama Joe posted:Are these new Berks smaller than the Previous Legacy Berks?
Yes, but are scale to the roads that are modeled. These berks have been offered before.
@KOOLjock1 posted:If it is comparable to the new Baby K4s, it'll be a winner!
Jon
Real coal load would be a home run. No Silver anywhere this time, Lionel!
The Santa Fe Berkshire is ugly and different from other ATSF steam in looks because I believe the SF Berks were purchased from another railroad (looks like the Boston and Maine) during the war and all SF did was paint “ATSF” on the side of the cab. They didn’t alter the paint scheme to be more “Santa Fe” until after the war. Since I model ATSF in WW2 I may have to add one of these oddities to my list.
@Randy_B posted:Is this the first time they have offered this one with the open spoke drivers? Looks nice - I would be tempted as well.
The open spoke drivers are truly a nice feature on this version of the engine. I can't say for certain if this is the first time for open spoke drivers, but I personally don't recall seeing them previously.
I fixed the item number (2232040) in my original post, accidentally deleted last digit when inserting the photo.
Just did a quick spin through. Overall it looks to be a wonderful catalog. The B&A Berk looks amazing! The PRR A5 also looks tempting. As a mostly semi-scale, hi-rail modeler, I am a little disappointed that there are no Lionmaster type steam offerings. Was really hoping Lionel would be quick to fill the MTH RK void. I’ve been hoping for a Lionmaster PRR T1 with LC 2.0. I’ll continue patiently waiting and hoping…
MA & PA Doodlebug but I'm about tapped out from the last catalog Strasburg
Very disappointed with the VL N&W A. Don't care for any of the combinations. Someone please give us the 1218 excursion in non-gloss finish, but with blackened rods and no whitewalls.
I liked the Bessemer and Lake Erie diesels with ore cars.
🤦♂️UP Ore Car Sets for sure. The CSX Fire Box Car is a must (my career). And I have to say the new Cab3 unit. Didn’t think I would like using my smart phone as the remote but I just watched a few videos Lionel posted on Youtube about and hour ago.
@Alec_6460 posted:The Santa Fe Berkshire is ugly and different from other ATSF steam in looks because I believe the SF Berks were purchased from another railroad (looks like the Boston and Maine) during the war and all SF did was paint “ATSF” on the side of the cab. They didn’t alter the paint scheme to be more “Santa Fe” until after the war. Since I model ATSF in WW2 I may have to add one of these oddities to my list.
ATSF had 15 Baldwin Berkshires which they built. #s 4101-4115
ATSF had 7 Lima-built T1A Berkshires they acquired from the Boston & Maine. #s 4193-4199 These were only kept from 1945-1949.
Lionel uses the old K-Line tooling for the Boston & Maine Berkshire. It's a gnarly looking locomotive.
@superwarp1 posted:NOOOOOO, Lionel you are killing me. B&A berkshire is back in the catalog. But no green version. Maybe I can get a dealer to do a special run. Stock cars three pack but 450.00 list!!!!
I’ve been working with Mr Muffin on a green version custom run! Can’t believe Lionel didn’t do one
Very interested in the Base3, but I'd like to know more about how in interacts with conventional engines.
@Cheap&NothingWasted posted:The CNW Berkshire was a surprise, that's the biggest freight steamer they had, and hardly any other CNW heavy freight steamers have been made.
I second that - now I'll have a choice in a few years between a used 3rd Rail CNW H1 or a used Lionel CNW 2-8-4 (when funds are available) to fill in the missing spot in my CNW roster
So somebody be sure to order a bunch to help populate the future second-hand market! Other than that, I found the horse cars and the ATSF Black Bonnet 2-10-4 attractive, and as always a bit of cleverness in the buildings/structures and O27 sections. Glad to see innovation in the new command base - I'm still all conventional so I'll likely adopt whatever is current in command control in a few years. With all those 2-10-4s I was hoping to see a CP Selkirk, but the tooling would be radically different, so its absence is understandable. The rocket booster train is impressive too. But nothing besides that CNW Berk would fill a hole in the roster, so I'll wait and see what comes next time!
Only item tempting me is the CNW Berk
@Jacobpaul81 posted:ATSF had 15 Baldwin Berkshires which they built. #s 4101-4115
ATSF had 7 Lima-built T1A Berkshires they acquired from the Boston & Maine. #s 4193-4199 These were only kept from 1945-1949.
Lionel uses the old K-Line tooling for the Boston & Maine Berkshire. It's a gnarly looking locomotive.
One of the ex-B&M Berkshires, the 4197 was Santa Fe-ized.
Rusty
If the tender lettering is corrected as in the picture below of member D500's earlier model (no spaces between the A & G and Y C then yes.
How do we get Lionel to correct this error. I don't have much confidence. Will have to see one first.
I’m in for a Veterans cabbage. I wish the SP SW1 was #1006 and not #1000, I’d probably order that too. I volunteer at the Southern California Railway Museum and see the real #1006 quite a bit.
The KCS 2-10-4 is incredibly tempting, but I just don’t have $1750 to spend on trains haha. I look forward to seeing them on people’s layouts when they come out.
@trainroomgary posted:On my bucket list. • Also need to see the catalog as a hardcopy!
Gary 🚂
I've been wanting to get an Amtrack train for a while now.
@superwarp1 posted:NOOOOOO, Lionel you are killing me. B&A berkshire is back in the catalog. But no green version. Maybe I can get a dealer to do a special run. Stock cars three pack but 450.00 list!!!!
I emailed mr muffin about doing the green version.
@EricTrainMan posted:I’ve been working with Mr Muffin on a green version custom run! Can’t believe Lionel didn’t do one
Awesome!!
To anyone getting the LC2.0 NY Central Hudson - if you have a Railking Hudson PS2 (3v only), or PS3, that you’d consider selling, please contact me. Thanks.
@EricTrainMan posted:I’ve been working with Mr Muffin on a green version custom run! Can’t believe Lionel didn’t do one
If he offers it, I will put my order in.
-Brian
Dang... Now THAT was a lot of Amtrak and CP diesels (7ish SD90MACs)! Honorable mention to the CN ES44AC.
As a steam and VIA Rail fan though, I am disappointed... and somewhat salty. Oodles of Atlas Premier previously announced in Amtrak engines and passenger cars in many variations, and now a staggering amount of Lionel Amtrak Legacy and Lionchief plus 2.0 in engines and cars.... Is there a massive sponsored campaign I don't know about going on????
(Would it have been such a pain for ANY company to do even just ONE engine and/or passenger car in the classy Blue and Yellow to offset the frankly ridiculous number of Amtrak offerings??? Who is in Lionel that seems every year to be a CP diesel fanboy???)
-edit- And those are my initial thoughts on the 2022 Lionel volume 1 big book
I really thought there’d be more N&W rolling stock to go with the A’s, but very enjoyable catalog! Too bad Lionel didn’t do any Canadian Pacific ES44AC’s, I would’ve preordered those as well if they had… Maybe MrMuffin’s could do a custom run of some? Haha 😄
@Jdjones24 posted:Where are you guys doing all your preordering?
I usually go through TrainWorld when it comes to preorders!
Alright, I gave it some thought and that little US Army A5 is just too tempting to pass up, I've gotten my hands on a bunch of US army rollingstock recently anyways so might as well get a locomotive to cart it around.
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I emailed mr muffin about doing the green version.
I did as well, thankyou.
@EricTrainMan posted:I’ve been working with Mr Muffin on a green version custom run! Can’t believe Lionel didn’t do one
I ask Steve as well. There could be two Berks in my future. Now what to do with my Kline Berks?????
"If I were to purchase the new command base, but still wanted to use a hand held remote, I would need to keep the old base for recharging the remote, yes?"
Remotes are set up for alkaline battery power, so do not require recharging unless you use rechargeable batteries. Cab2 command base would no longer be needed for anything is my reading.
"Also, would the two bases interfere with each other (besides competing for limited space on the control panel) in any way?"
No need for two bases and yes, we have always been told no more than one command base per layout. Cab 3 base should be all you would need it seems from the catalog description.
@Landsteiner posted:"If I were to purchase the new command base, but still wanted to use a hand held remote, I would need to keep the old base for recharging the remote, yes?"
YES, recharging can only be done with the Legacy #990 or #993 expansion pack. Better the use the 993. I would bet having the CAB3 and the 990 both powered at the same time would fight each other communicating to the remote.
@superwarp1 posted:I ask Steve as well. There could be two Berks in my future. Now what to do with my Kline Berks?????
You can sell me your Lionel Legacy Pere Marquette Berks!!!!!!
The Union Pacific Rocket Booster Train... 
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Considering the Base 3 but really want a cab-2 or better legacy style of controller still being offered.
There are a few items that interest me, I do have questions on one of the items:
Page 17 Vision Horse Cars - I can’t explain it but I find these cars very intriguing. The PRR car would look great on my passenger train. I don’t think these were used on freight trains as I would think you would want your horses getting to where ever they are going quickly.
Page 28 A5 0-4-0 Switcher - Are these made from the old K Line molds or did they buy MTH’s molds? The MTH A5s looked more scale than the K line A5s. Don’t get me wrong I owned 2 of the Kline A5s and never owned the MTH version. The MTH version was 15”, Kline’s were 17” my Legacy B6 is 17.5”. Makes me think these are from Kline molds so I probably will pass unless I hear that they bought MTH molds and the 17” length was a typo.
Page 105 Amtrak Passenger cars - What I find real interesting is that these are 18 1/2” in length. Is that not way too big for traditional size? If I owned a scale Amtrak engine these would be on my must buy list. I was assuming these are MTH tooling but I thought Atlas purchase those molds.
Page 204 - Transfer Station - this was always one of my favorite MTH operating accessories. Glad to see Lionel got the tooling. As I don’t have a home layout and my club has the MTH version probable slim chances of me purchasing but I do like it.
JohnB
@MartyE posted:I'm definitely in for the Base 3 to start.
Well, that can wait for me I would say being that I need a permanent layout to use it on. My Cab2 works just fine. I didn't see a price on that, but then again I'm looking on my phone and can't see a dang thing unless I zoom.
I note that cab3 base updates will be done via wi-fi/cab3 app so no issues with having to use a computer as has been necessary for some systems in the past. For example, as a long time Mac user who cannot be bothered to use Windows emulation software, this was one factor that turned me off DCS in the early years before smart devices and apps. Wi-fi and a smart device app makes eminently more sense in 2022. Of course, then we have the issue of Lionel trying to keep the app up to date for both iOS and Android, so not necessarily completely problem free perhaps.
@Mikado 4501 posted:As someone who lives about 40 minutes away from it, the Black River & Western SW1 set is VERY tempting.
I’ll say I’m pretty impressed seeing all the MTH tooling now with Lionel electronics, both in the less expensive and the LEGACY product lines.
About 5 minutes away from me. I wish they would have done the steam engine, but guessing it is way different from their toolings.
My Likes: Atlantic Southern Steam Locomotive and Southern Wood Coaches
Soo Line RS-27 and the Soo Line F7's. 
My Dislike: No more Cab-2 controllers. I'm glad I ordered an extra Cab-2 control system a couple of years ago. I thought this may happen. Only way to get my Cab-2 controller is from my cold dead hands! 
New Lionel Base 3 video ...
"I didn't see a price on that,"
MSRP for the cab3 base is about $500. Haven't seen any street prices except for Mr. Muffin, who has it at MSRP so perhaps a short discount item since he usually discounts a bit from MSRP?
No information about whether the cab3 app will continue as free as the current LionChief app is.
Just a thought, but if a custom run could be done of this, would anyone be interested??
An idea I had earlier could be a “what if” scheme of a Virginian Railway Class A. In real life, the Virginian tried several time to get the N&W to build them some locomotives, A’s and Y’s in particular! The N&W never agreed to an order for them and the VGN ended up going with C&O inspired steam power. When the Virginian had an opportunity to grab some former N&W power though, they jumped on it (they were able to acquire several Y3’s that had gone from the N&W to the Santa Fe during WW2)! The Virginian at one point even include a “Virginian Class A” in one of their company posters!
just an idea…
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@Landsteiner posted:"I didn't see a price on that,"
MSRP for the cab3 base is about $500. Haven't seen any street prices except for Mr. Muffin, who has it at MSRP so perhaps a short discount item since he usually discounts a bit from MSRP?
No information about whether the cab3 app will continue as free as the current LionChief app is.
I would suspect that since there is no remote with Base 3, that it would include at least 1 download free. At least that would be the way I would do it. Any additional downloads not on that account would be a charge. Again at least that's what I would do. I can't believe they would sell you a base and then have to buy the app on top of that to use it.
So if I had an iPad and an iPhone both on the same Apple ID the one download would apply to the account so both devices would be able to get it. If a friend came over without a remote and wanted to join in he would have to purchase the app.
I also noticed the LCS WiFi module is absent as well. Would have loved to see a NIC on the Base3. As long as the WiFi is more robust then I guess I can live without it.
@Trainmaster04 posted:Force coupler was first introduced in the VL Niagara and basically replaces the manual operation of increasing/decreasing the chuff labor. The drawbar has a sensor that can tell when the locomotive is pulling a sizable load. Depending on the weight of the load determines how much labor the locomotive will produce.
Ahh! Thanks for the explanation..
@Greg - Mi posted:My Likes: Atlantic Southern Steam Locomotive and Southern Wood Coaches
Soo Line RS-27 and the Soo Line F7's.
My Dislike: No more Cab-2 controllers. I'm glad I ordered an extra Cab-2 control system a couple of years ago. I thought this may happen. Only way to get my Cab-2 controller is from my cold dead hands!
lmk if something changes your mind
Class A Fantasy What If Scheme. Reading & Northern F9
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@superwarp1 posted:I ask Steve as well. There could be two Berks in my future. Now what to do with my Kline Berks?????
If Steve does work getting a green B&A Berk, I'll bite as well.
