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@Farmall-Joe posted:

Could someone define what a "force coupler" is?  Is this where it continues to open when you dont want it to and you force it shut with a zip tie LOL...

Force coupler was first introduced in the VL Niagara and basically replaces the manual operation of increasing/decreasing the chuff labor. The drawbar has a sensor that can tell when the locomotive is pulling a sizable load. Depending on the weight of the load determines how much labor the locomotive will produce.

@GG1 4877 posted:

The horse cars are interesting, but it would be nice to have an option without sound.  At the MSRP I can find a brass one.  I know they will be discounted somewhere, but I'd still want to rip the electronics out.

Well if you do that, I'd buy the electronics off you.  I like the horse car idea, and the fact it has sounds, but I think CNW only ran heavyweight ones. Keep it in mind!

The CNW Berkshire was a surprise, that's the biggest freight steamer they had, and hardly any other CNW heavy freight steamers have been made.  I wondered if Lionel would make a pig version of their VL stock cars, and I'm looking forward to getting at least the sound car from it. 

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It is again time to show my ignorance ...

If I were to purchase the new command base, but still wanted to use a hand held remote, I would need to keep the old base for recharging the remote, yes? Also, would the two bases interfere with each other (besides competing for limited space on the control panel) in any way?

I don't have that big of a layout and I wonder if  the juice of a new base is worth the squeeze.

Thanks,

Jim

The Santa Fe Berkshire is ugly and different from other ATSF steam in looks because I believe the SF Berks were purchased from another railroad (looks like the Boston and Maine) during the war and all SF did was paint “ATSF” on the side of the cab.   They didn’t alter the paint scheme to be more “Santa Fe” until after the war.   Since I model ATSF in WW2 I may have to add one of these oddities to my list.

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@Randy_B posted:

Is this the first time they have offered this one with the open spoke drivers? Looks nice - I would be tempted as well.

The open spoke drivers are truly a nice feature on this version of the engine.  I can't say for certain if this is the first time for open spoke drivers, but I personally don't recall seeing them previously.

I fixed the item number (2232040) in my original post, accidentally deleted last digit when inserting the photo.

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Just did a quick spin through.  Overall it looks to be a wonderful catalog.  The B&A Berk looks amazing!   The PRR A5 also looks tempting.  As a mostly semi-scale, hi-rail modeler, I am a little disappointed that there are no Lionmaster type steam offerings.  Was really hoping Lionel would be quick to fill the MTH RK void.  I’ve been hoping for a Lionmaster PRR T1 with LC 2.0.   I’ll continue patiently waiting and hoping…  

@Alec_6460 posted:

The Santa Fe Berkshire is ugly and different from other ATSF steam in looks because I believe the SF Berks were purchased from another railroad (looks like the Boston and Maine) during the war and all SF did was paint “ATSF” on the side of the cab.   They didn’t alter the paint scheme to be more “Santa Fe” until after the war.   Since I model ATSF in WW2 I may have to add one of these oddities to my list.

ATSF had 15 Baldwin Berkshires which they built.  #s 4101-4115

ATSF had 7 Lima-built T1A Berkshires they acquired from the Boston & Maine.   #s 4193-4199    These were only kept from 1945-1949.

Lionel uses the old K-Line tooling for the Boston & Maine Berkshire.  It's a gnarly looking locomotive. 

The CNW Berkshire was a surprise, that's the biggest freight steamer they had, and hardly any other CNW heavy freight steamers have been made. 

I second that - now I'll have a choice in a few years between a used 3rd Rail CNW H1 or a used Lionel CNW 2-8-4 (when funds are available) to fill in the missing spot in my CNW roster

So somebody be sure to order a bunch to help populate the future second-hand market! Other than that, I found the horse cars and the ATSF Black Bonnet 2-10-4 attractive, and as always a bit of cleverness in the buildings/structures and O27 sections. Glad to see innovation in the new command base - I'm still all conventional so I'll likely adopt whatever is current in command control in a few years. With all those 2-10-4s I was hoping to see a CP Selkirk, but the tooling would be radically different, so its absence is understandable.  The rocket booster train is impressive too. But nothing besides that CNW Berk would fill a hole in the roster, so I'll wait and see what comes next time!

I’m in for a Veterans cabbage. I wish the SP SW1 was #1006 and not #1000, I’d probably order that too. I volunteer at the Southern California Railway Museum and see the real #1006 quite a bit.

The KCS 2-10-4 is incredibly tempting, but I just don’t have $1750 to spend on trains haha. I look forward to seeing them on people’s layouts when they come out.

Dang... Now THAT was a lot of Amtrak and CP diesels (7ish SD90MACs)!  Honorable mention to the CN ES44AC.

As a steam and VIA Rail fan though, I am disappointed... and somewhat salty.  Oodles of Atlas Premier previously announced in Amtrak engines and passenger cars in many variations, and now a staggering amount of Lionel Amtrak Legacy and Lionchief plus 2.0 in engines and cars....  Is there a massive sponsored campaign I don't know about going on????

(Would it have been such a pain for ANY company to do even just ONE engine and/or passenger car in the classy Blue and Yellow to offset the frankly ridiculous number of Amtrak offerings??? Who is in Lionel that seems every year to be a CP diesel fanboy???)



-edit-    And those are my initial thoughts on the 2022 Lionel volume 1 big book

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