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I have a 2466 tender and its missing wheels and the coil coupler. I dont really want to use anything with the dragging shoe or coil.

I was wondering if anyone here has installed later trucks such as the operating knuckle couplers 1950s or later. Is it difficult to do?

Thanks in advance.

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That should be an easy change. You would want a 481-1 truck, which would have a tab coupler and a roller, no sliding shoe. But when you get into this there may be additional work to do. I assumed this is a whistle tender. If so, the insulation on the wires from the trucks is probably hard and cracking.  This should be changed to super flex wire. The trucks are held on with horseshoe washers.  These may crack when they are removed.  Make sure you have spares.  The whistle may be in the way of removing the trucks, so the screws that hold the whistle in may have to be removed so the whistle can be moved aside to get to the horseshoe washers.  While you are in there, you probably what to service the whistle motor.  Check the motor brushes, clean the commutator including cleaning out the slots with a toothpick, and oiling the bearings. 

The other thing you might run into is that the screws that hold the body on screw into plastic.  Frequently the plastic is broken out around the screws. This can be built back up with JB Weld.  Then redrill the screw holes and use a tap to rethread the holes. I think the stress applied by the self tapping screws is part of the cause of the plastic cracking, so threading these holes with a tap first helps reduce this stress.

The only special skill required to do this work is soldering.  You need the right tools and materials to disconnect and resolder the wires. I am a big user of solder wick to remove the old solder.  It makes removing the wires much easier.  

That should be an easy change. You would want a 481-1 truck, which would have a tab coupler and a roller, no sliding shoe. But when you get into this there may be additional work to do. I assumed this is a whistle tender. If so, the insulation on the wires from the trucks is probably hard and cracking.  This should be changed to super flex wire.

Where can one buy the black super flex wire?

Arnold

If there is no whistle you will not need a truck with a roller. The 480-1 truck will work fine. Any parts you need could be supplied by Jeff Kane, the Train Tender. 

 I have seen on the forum a number of recommendations for Jeff at Train Tender. 

When I look through the inventory online I'm not having a whole lot of luck. Not much at Olsen's either. I am finding Just Trains seems to have everything I'm looking for so far. Whether it's N.O.S. or used. Perhaps the online inventory isn't kept up to date at Train Tender of Olsens's. 

Experience is based on finding parts for a 1666 Post War 027 Locomotive that is not running and missing parts. On the Tandem Associates Site It fits everything in the Variation C: Has smooth sand domes, SILVER hand rails, sheet metal pilot truck and steam chest are held in place by posts in the boiler casting, and the number is rubber-stamped on the sides of the cab. (1947) EXCEPT It has a metal Number Plate.

 

 I have seen on the forum a number of recommendations for Jeff at Train Tender. 

When I look through the inventory online I'm not having a whole lot of luck. Not much at Olsen's either. I am finding Just Trains seems to have everything I'm looking for so far. Whether it's N.O.S. or used. Perhaps the online inventory isn't kept up to date at Train Tender of Olsens's. 

Experience is based on finding parts for a 1666 Post War 027 Locomotive that is not running and missing parts. On the Tandem Associates Site It fits everything in the Variation C: Has smooth sand domes, SILVER hand rails, sheet metal pilot truck and steam chest are held in place by posts in the boiler casting, and the number is rubber-stamped on the sides of the cab. (1947) EXCEPT It has a metal Number Plate.

 

If your needs have been met by another parts or supply vendor, that's great.

For Jeff Kane of The Train Tender, you want to call him or email him. His telephone number is: 585-229-2050, and his email is: jeff@ttender.com. I found him to be very helpful and responsive. Arnold 

If your needs have been met by another parts or supply vendor, that's great.

For Jeff Kane of The Train Tender, you want to call him or email him. His telephone number is: 585-229-2050, and his email is: jeff@ttender.com. I found him to be very helpful and responsive. Arnold 


I recommend Bill Harrison at S&W for parts.  See http://www.sandwparts.com/.

Bill is an old-timer who really knows parts, has a great prewar inventory and has minimal shipping charges even on small orders.  Read about him on the web site.

Its good to support the dealers but you can also use the trucks from a post war caboose. For ten bucks you will get two matching trucks, at least one magnetic coupler and a pickup roller. Many on ebay now. Look for 6357, 6457, 6417. If it has two couplers the extra one in easily removed. Just look at the trucks and make sure they resemble the ones you have. The later ones had plastic trucks based on a later prototype.

Pete

You guys were right on the money about Jeff Kane at the Train Tender. I made a list of parts that I needed and what I needed it for and emailed it to him. In short order I got a response with a couple suggestions.

Parts are on the way.

If you are reading this and are new to ordering parts don't be discouraged if the part doesnt show being in stock on his site. Most of mine didn't.

After an email I found out they were. As a bonus the price ended up being a lot less than I would have paid to the first place I looked at ordering them from.

 

Regards.

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