Continuing Saga ... Refinery Complete!!!

News update: I'm holding off on the Bronx cutting. Andre is traveling extensively and the price to do the job is high and I'm not sure I want to put all my eggs in one basket. I printed out full-size drawings of the three views and am going to make a cardboard mockup to see how and where it will fit. I'm a little concerned about how big it is and where it will go in the village. Better to find out this way that it doesn't work then to get a box of laser cut parts and THEN find out that it's too big.

Meanwhile, after I sold my Rock Island consist to Gene France of California it now has a home on the San Diego O'Scale Model Railroad Club layout and Gene sent me a video of it running on a big wonderful layout. I'm really glad that it found a great home and thanks to Gene for sending the video and closing the loop.

I'm continuing monumental work on the Essex aircraft carrier, updating it as best I can to a late WW2 configuration. I'm building all the masting out of soldered brass and believe me, it's one heck of a challenge. I had a rare set of weekend work sessions and finished the Mark 37 gun directors and the main tripod mast.

Essex Tri-Mast

The yard arm consists of a main support using three sizes of sub-millimeter thin-wall brass tubing with the photo-etched detail piece soldered to it, providing detail AND strength.

Here are the two directors. Base is kit plastic with all brass on top. I mounted the assembly on a brass plate which you can see and may do some more filling to hide the gap better. These are a bear to build and there's still more details on the antenna that can be added if you're so inclined. Right now I AM NOT so inclined.

Essex Mark 37s

And I also ran the trains for a little bit...after all I am a model railroader at heart. Winter has make that track misalignment at the gate disappear. Low humidity did the trick. Perhaps I should get a de-humidifier for the basement...?

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Glad to hear from you.  Yes, it sounds like the mock up for the Bronx is the way to go now.  I was aware from elsewhere Andre has been a world traveler as of late!  Duty calls!

The work on the Essex looks superb, but I agree you have to decide when to take the detailing so far.

I'm glad Gene got that great looking Rock Island set for the San Diego O scalers club.  Are they one of the clubs at Balboa Park?  Our youngest daughter made a West Coast trip when she was in the Touring Choir of Grove City (PA) College a few years back.  The choir took some sightseeing time in San Francisco, Yosemite, and Balboa Park.  Holly saw a sign for a model railroad building at the park, told the gang she was with that she had grown up seeing my trains, and suggested they pass some time there.  She saidthey all thought it was great!!

Yes, now that you have passed through a few season changes, it seems you may do well to get a dehumidifier.  Glad you ran some trains!

It's good to periodically check in just so my thread doesn't get buried too far back in the queue. I made the Bronx Victorian mockup and tried it on for size. I'm glad I did. As much as I love the building's appearance, I think it is too big and too grand for the village. Here it is in the three possible locations. In the first two, it blocks viewing the distillery which, for all intents and purposes, is center-piece of the town vignette.

Victorian Fit 2

While the building is only four stories, the floor heights (probably 12 feet) make it look like a 5-story building. And the mockup doesn't include the mansard roof details and the decorative top roof that extends even higher so you wouldn't even see the refinery.

Bronx Doc Center Comp

In the second location, it's too close to the railroad and may actually be hit by long engines and rolling stock.

Victorian Fit 3a

This picture really shows how it blocks viewing Bernheim.

Victorian Fit 3b

This last location is behind the fire house and is where I was planning to put the under-construction rick house that would eventually store Bourbon barrels for the Berheim distillery across the street. 

Victorian Fit 1

From this angle all you see is the blank wall where a parking lot exists on the prototype. All the beauty is missed on the far side. I could reverse the building and have the brick side with the windows facing the fire house, but I'm not sure that's so good either. The Nighthawks Cafe structure is a much better size for this town. I think that's the one that I'll have cut.

VIctorian Fit 4

Readers... let me know what you think. Andre wants $460 to cut it, and I've sunk another $40 to have the architectural details 3D printed. That puts the total price tag over $500.00. 

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Myles,

While it is a great building, I agree as is from the mock-up, it is too big for your town.  I forgot how tall it is thinking it was less or equal to the height of the distillery.

Yes, the Nighthawks building would be a better fit and is a signature building itself.

Well guys... I spent time on SketchUp this morning and did some surgery to selectively compress (us O'scalers are good at this) to keep the flavor of that elegant building, but reduce its volume so it fits in my village better and here's the new look.

Bronx Bldg Shrunk Ver. 1

I removed the 3rd story with all its windows and reduced the length by removing one set of windows and getting rid of the side door which wasn't part of the 1870 version anyway. I think it looks pretty good. What do you guys think? You can disagree. 

It would take less time to laser cut with one full set of windows missing, and the wall size reduced over 30%. I see that the mansard roof texture got switched. It should be slate fish scale shingles like the side roof. It only has one chimney since two looked like over kill.

I'm going to mock this up too and see where it fits.

And I'm still going to build Nighthawks.

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Well guys... I spent time on SketchUp this morning and did some surgery to selectively compress (us O'scalers are good at this) to keep the flavor of that elegant building, but reduce its volume so it fits in my village better and here's the new look.

Bronx Bldg Shrunk Ver. 1

I removed the 3rd story with all its windows and reduced the length by removing one set of windows and getting rid of the side door which wasn't part of the 1870 version anyway. I think it looks pretty good. What do you guys think? You can disagree. 

It would take less time to laser cut with one full set of windows missing, and the wall size reduced over 30%. I see that the mansard roof texture got switched. It should be slate fish scale shingles like the side roof. It only has one chimney since two looked like over kill.

I'm going to mock this up too and see where it fits.

And I'm still going to build Nighthawks.

Much better. A question (NOT a criticism): Does the architecture fit with the locale? But then it's your railroad, so does it really matter? It's been 35 years since i lived in KY (Lexington), and a significant amount of product from Buffalo Trace may have deadened more than a few brain cells.

jackson, CEO, Not-So-Great Eastern RR, aka The Never Done Line

          Division of the Southern Adirondack Railway Cartel

 

 

There are a lot of neat victorian buildings in lots of KY towns. Maysville, a neat little river town southeast of Cincinnati,  has buildings that look just like this one. The town in Pennsy where were lived had buildings from 1600s thru 1890s, all within a stone's throw of each other. I'm leaning towards a Victorian small town, but then my whole layout is an anachronism. I have an 1870 distillery with modern material handling equipment, and Victorian train station next to a state-of-the-art electrical substation, and then there's the refinery. If I like how it looks I'll build it.

Here's a Maysville building. Notice the eyebrows over the windows.

Maysville KY 3

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So... taking all the comments into consideration, I quickly chopped the existing mockup to make a reduced-size Bronx Victorian structure. And it works nicely. In fact, it's perfect!

Resized Btronx 1

I think this is my preferred position. The two stories are a little taller than the adjacent structures, but this structure typically had 12 foot ceilings and the others look like 8 foot ceilings. But it's not overpowering and reducing the length keeps the alley way next to the chocolate shoppe, or track clearance in the first location. I think Nighthawks would go where that DPM corner store is temporarily located. I'm going to make that into an appliance store and have a Miller Engineering "Zenith TV" neon window sign for it. Next step is to change all the laser cut working drawings.

Small Bronx 2

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