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Do any of you have two versions of the same locomotive from say, Lionel and MTH and have had some operation time to make some impartial comments? Thinking of the recent N&W J Class in Legacy and PS3 or perhaps the recent Big Boys from both companies. Also their newest F and E units. Am prompted to ask this because of the many posts in the last year or two citing issues and complaints about various Lionel Legacy models that have paint problems, static sounds, and other operational issues. Especially overall quality control. Most have stated that 'for many years now that Lionel is the clear leader in sound' but from what I'm reading about the new E8's, their sound seems to be getting worse!  Any input would be most appreciated and enlightening.

By contrast, I see very few posts complaining about MTH products...

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I get the impression that most buyers want their money back if a MTH engine is not up to their standards or if something's wrong. I got a opened in the box MTH diesel for a deal, because the buyer wasn't happy with the size of the numbers on the number boards.

If it's a Lionel, buyers seem to put up with it. I may of course be wrong overall. It's just a rough average from what I read here on the forum.

This now, is fueled by the MTH closing announcement as well. To me, it's been this way for a few years from what I've read here.

Lionel does seem to cover some mistakes better with returns. I don't bash them here.

Of course there's the pay less, want more syndrome that seems to take over buyers. Charge a premium, and shed off the buyers who are ... well ?? cheap? Use whatever adjective you'd like here.

Just trying to make a point.  Fire away. Hey... you asked, right?

Sam,

I bought an MTH Texas from a dealer as soon as it was available.  Put it on my test track and it ran two feet before the board blew.  Back to the dealer, swapped for another new one. Put it on my test track and it ran six feet before the board blew.  Back to the dealer who was out of them.  He had one on the store layout.  I gladly took that one and have had it since.  Once you get one which works, you're okay.  For me it was finding one which worked.

John

@rattler21 posted:

Sam,

I bought an MTH Texas from a dealer as soon as it was available.  Put it on my test track and it ran two feet before the board blew.  Back to the dealer, swapped for another new one. Put it on my test track and it ran six feet before the board blew.  Back to the dealer who was out of them.  He had one on the store layout.  I gladly took that one and have had it since.  Once you get one which works, you're okay.  For me it was finding one which worked.

John

I watched three Lionel/American Flyer Y3's let the smoke out on my LHS's test track.  The fourth one was a charm.

Rusty

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