Different Tuscan Red from Lionel

Yep, you are correct.

I have collected PRR tuscan MTH Premier passenger over the years, and I have seen different shades of tuscan like you show in the picture above.

I accept it...I am sure the real ones may have varied in hue due to time in the sun, or the paint mixture at the shop being off a smidge.

Yes, and some of the cabin car colors recently seen from Lionel are almost maroon.   

George

To my eyes, the PA looks Tuscan red, and the E8 looks Tuscan.

Ok, enough with the color, lets have a review of the new PA's.

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Mixed Freight posted:

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Actually, RR colors are mixed to specific standards, and are part of a railroad's standard practices, and do not vary much at all. There are people paid to be in charge of this; it's not a hobby. There is a Right and a Wrong PRR Tuscan red. ("Color creep" through time is not unknown, of course; paint technology changes; samples fade - and certainly shades are even consciously changed sometimes.)

The above does not always apply to short lines and even smaller Class 1's. 

  Complex colors are a specific pigment formula easily thrown off if the base colors vary. If the mix isn't primarys, but complex colors mixed to begin with, now your way off if the primary bases are off.

  Variences are just a sign the formula was compromised or approimated.  I.e. someone said "who cares it's close" . 

   Companies go a long way with color, patents etc. and PR depts. tend to mind them pretty close. E.g. it ain't "medium blue" it's "Ford Blue" or even "Michigan State Police Blue", etc. etc.

D500 posted:

Mixed Freight posted:

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Actually, RR colors are mixed to specific standards, and are part of a railroad's standard practices, and do not vary much at all. There are people paid to be in charge of this; it's not a hobby. There is a Right and a Wrong PRR Tuscan red. ("Color creep" through time is not unknown, of course; paint technology changes; samples fade - and certainly shades are even consciously changed sometimes.)

The above does not always apply to short lines and even smaller Class 1's. 

So all in all D500, what you're really trying to say is.............................

Pretty much what I said to start with? 

Added the Radiophone antenna to this Weaver Model.  Badger Modelflex maroon was a close/ not exact match.

Also added the lift rings front and windshield wipers.

Looks like 2 different shades of Tuscan to me, or fading over time.  1st photo is from the 60’s on the PRSL. 2nd is from 1953. I ordered the PRR PA’s and they are in the mail. I want to see them in person in the sunlight. Anybody run theirs yet? How about a demo of the super bass B unit.

The models may only be a year apart, but the factories in China could be a thousand miles apart.

I like the PA shade truthfully. The E8 just looks brown. 

Surefire posted:

I like the PA shade truthfully. The E8 just looks brown. 

Same here

Me too.....

On a good color chart there is a Tuscan Red and a Tuscan brown.  I'd say the right look for PRR would be Medium Tuscan Red.

When Weaver still did Scalecoat. 

Badger Modelflex is one of the few paint suppliers that still does the Railroad colors.  Most model paints have abandoned model railroading. IMO.  

Mike CT posted:

Badger Modelflex is one of the few paint suppliers that still does the Railroad colors.  Most model paints have abandoned model railroading. IMO.  

Tru-color and Minuteman

Another thumbs up for the Lionel color change.  Any number of PW period color photos of freshly shopped diesels and electrics exhibit a bright Tuscan shade.  I had wondered why MTH made the change, until I began closer examination of color shots.  Now, the gloss factor should be notched up a few to represent something freshly painted rather than the factory fade job from both manufacturers.

Bruce