Has anyone noticed to totally different interpretations of "Tuscan Red" from Lionel.  The ALCO PA1 (#1933190, 2018 Vol. 2) is almost pink compared to the maroon EMD E8 (6-84091, Signature 2017).  These two engines are only a year apart.

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Yep, you are correct.

I have collected PRR tuscan MTH Premier passenger over the years, and I have seen different shades of tuscan like you show in the picture above.

I accept it...I am sure the real ones may have varied in hue due to time in the sun, or the paint mixture at the shop being off a smidge.

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Paul  

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2 Rails?  3 Rails?  Doesn't matter, I can't count that high anyway.

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Mixed Freight posted:

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Actually, RR colors are mixed to specific standards, and are part of a railroad's standard practices, and do not vary much at all. There are people paid to be in charge of this; it's not a hobby. There is a Right and a Wrong PRR Tuscan red. ("Color creep" through time is not unknown, of course; paint technology changes; samples fade - and certainly shades are even consciously changed sometimes.)

The above does not always apply to short lines and even smaller Class 1's. 

  Complex colors are a specific pigment formula easily thrown off if the base colors vary. If the mix isn't primarys, but complex colors mixed to begin with, now your way off if the primary bases are off.

  Variences are just a sign the formula was compromised or approimated.  I.e. someone said "who cares it's close"

   Companies go a long way with color, patents etc. and PR depts. tend to mind them pretty close. E.g. it ain't "medium blue" it's "Ford Blue" or even "Michigan State Police Blue", etc. etc.

 

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D500 posted:
Mixed Freight posted:

Tuscan red is a lot like box car red is a lot like primer red is a lot like barn yard red - the exact colors are more of a suggestion than a mandate. 

Actually, RR colors are mixed to specific standards, and are part of a railroad's standard practices, and do not vary much at all. There are people paid to be in charge of this; it's not a hobby. There is a Right and a Wrong PRR Tuscan red. ("Color creep" through time is not unknown, of course; paint technology changes; samples fade - and certainly shades are even consciously changed sometimes.)

The above does not always apply to short lines and even smaller Class 1's. 

So all in all D500, what you're really trying to say is.............................

Pretty much what I said to start with? 

Paul  

Ship Rock Island ROCKET FREIGHT

 

2 Rails?  3 Rails?  Doesn't matter, I can't count that high anyway.

I love the smell of fresh-brewed creosote first thing in the morning.

Looks like 2 different shades of Tuscan to me, or fading over time.  1st photo is from the 60’s on the PRSL. 2nd is from 1953. I ordered the PRR PA’s and they are in the mail. I want to see them in person in the sunlight. Anybody run theirs yet? How about a demo of the super bass B unit.3F974FD4-5E1D-4582-8D23-08181602305DB82445F4-74E8-4B79-9872-8C6E1394E925

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Badger Modelflex is one of the few paint suppliers that still does the Railroad colors.  Most model paints have abandoned model railroading. IMO.  

Tru-color

http://trucolorpaint.com/products/

Minuteman

https://www.minutemanscalemodels.com/default.asp

 


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Another thumbs up for the Lionel color change.  Any number of PW period color photos of freshly shopped diesels and electrics exhibit a bright Tuscan shade.  I had wondered why MTH made the change, until I began closer examination of color shots.  Now, the gloss factor should be notched up a few to represent something freshly painted rather than the factory fade job from both manufacturers.

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