prrhorseshoecurve posted:
Rule292 posted:

Sigh.  I thought it was a PRR E6.  Or an E3sd.  

E3sd... Egad man! Who manufactured a PRR E3 sd in O scale? I only am aware of the Gem F3!

Nobody made one... yet!   

Sadly PRR steam is dead though one could still hope for the unique E3 with the rigid trailing, truck, a nice little PRR ten wheeler or the venerable PRR 1223.

Think more than one or two of us would buy a pre-1940's PRR steamer? 

Rob M. ARHS # 3846 PRRT&HS # 8141 EPTC "Life Is Like A Mountain Railway, With An Engineer That's Brave..."

Rule292 posted:
prrhorseshoecurve posted:
Rule292 posted:

Sigh.  I thought it was a PRR E6.  Or an E3sd.  

E3sd... Egad man! Who manufactured a PRR E3 sd in O scale? I only am aware of the Gem F3!

Nobody made one... yet!   

Sadly PRR steam is dead though one could still hope for the unique E3 with the rigid trailing, truck, a nice little PRR ten wheeler or the venerable PRR 1223.

Think more than one or two of us would buy a pre-1940's PRR steamer? 

Ain't nobody buying little steamers these days, regardless of prototype. Too costly. For a bit more you can buy a Brobdingnagian steamer that requires 200" radius curves to run, or a really big shelf.

My thoughts too originally went to a PRR Atlantic rather than an EMD shovel nose.  I suppose this only confirms us as SPF's.  Understandable, because this diesel was among the few not rostered by PRR.  But an O-Scale EMD E6 would be a beautiful thing to see, especially as I remember them on the SAL, ACL and FEC while on the platform at Jacksonville FL terminal now too many years ago.

E6 15 ( I had asked for fast 14) arrived on the property this afternoon.  Haven't had a chance to take a good look but did notice that the pilot brakeman's step is wrong;  however, a nice touch is that a second pilot (closed) is included.  Also, no roof bell, wrong horns and nose stripe.  Definitely not as delivered.  Early days with it but starting as something of a disappointment.

Allan

After a modest delay, mine are scheduled to be delivered this Tuesday. Scott always delivers some real beauties. I will receive MP and IC. I was going to sell my MTH IC “City of Miami” to make room for new additions but decided it was just too pretty. 

Some new fun coming.

😬🤗

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To the question about PRR, "Pennsylvania Rail Road", at one time the largest corporation in the country and one that managed to pay dividends thoughout the Great Depression.

On the E3 and related E2 PRR Atlantics, there have been none imported that I am aware of.    Max Grey did a decent model in my opionion of the 4-4-0 1223 that can still be found quite often at O scale shows.    I have one that I run regularly.    I installed a DCC decoder.     The famous PRR 10 wheeler - the G5 was done by Max Grey and possibly again by USH hobbies and definitely again by Sunset (before they added 3rd rail to the name).    These are also quite common at O scale shows.     Sunset also did an E6 and an H9 at the same time.  Sunset 3RD Rail fairly recently redid the E6 (atlantic) in a factory painted version.

There are still some of us that buy steam models!    However, less and less are being imported but previously owned ones are available in large numbers at O Scale Shows.

TrainBub posted:

After a modest delay, mine are scheduled to be delivered this Tuesday. Scott always delivers some real beauties. I will receive MP and IC. I was going to sell my MTH IC “City of Miami” to make room for new additions but decided it was just too pretty. 

Some new fun coming.

😬🤗

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Trainbub, thanks for sharing the images. Is that an image of the upcoming Sunset 3rd rail IC E6 in Panama Limited colors?. If so, where did you find the pictures? 

I assume Scott would have posted images as the E6's should be close to delivery.

 

Thanks

Charlie

Icken was a custom builder, and a very respected one at the time as I understand it.    I don't think he did a run of these for sale however, I think all of his stuff was built to customer order.     He may have done more than one of a given model, but I don't think he did 100 or even 50.

Hi Charlie

Yes. Sunset image of IC “Panama”.  No “ published”images.  From Scott awhile back as a kind gesture in exchanges of emails. I’ve sat on. Now - With models beginning to show up on our doorsteps, I thought it now ok to share. I expect Tuesday delivery at latest. Im in Houston so One might anticipate west coast deliveries even sooner. I can’t wait to see pix of ALL the different roads. 

My regret is I won’t get to run them for some time as my “empire” is coming down for a move from Houston to St. Louis. 

TrainBub 🙂🥔

Bob Harris posted:
justin p posted:

that illinois central e6  is beautiful!

Regarding the MP E6 versions, Please contact off the list for issues with the B unit if you are interested. Scott is aware of the issues.  The a unit is Out standing.

Bob

Bob

I’ll be interested in any “issues”☹️   Sorry.   I’m not on the boards very often so ............ how do I contact off the list? TrainBub 

 

 

 

Allan E posted:

E6 15 ( I had asked for fast 14) arrived on the property this afternoon.  Haven't had a chance to take a good look but did notice that the pilot brakeman's step is wrong;  however, a nice touch is that a second pilot (closed) is included.  Also, no roof bell, wrong horns and nose stripe.  Definitely not as delivered.  Early days with it but starting as something of a disappointment.

Allan

Hi Allan.

Any chance you could post a picture or two please. I’m about to take delivery of a SF E6 to the UK. If there are problems I don’t want to end up paying expensive freight plus excessive UK imports charges and taxes which odd over 50% to the cost and will try and get sorted out stateside.

I appreciate any help or further comments you can offer.

Thanks,

Steve

(I’m modelling SF in the 50s so not sure if the problems you mentioned are relevant or not and apply to the Es when first delivered rather than later SF alterations!).

If anybody else can clarify would be great. Thanks again.

Steve Adby posted:
Allan E posted:

E6 15 ( I had asked for fast 14) arrived on the property this afternoon.  Haven't had a chance to take a good look but did notice that the pilot brakeman's step is wrong;  however, a nice touch is that a second pilot (closed) is included.  Also, no roof bell, wrong horns and nose stripe.  Definitely not as delivered.  Early days with it but starting as something of a disappointment.

Allan

Hi Allan.

Any chance you could post a picture or two please. I’m about to take delivery of a SF E6 to the UK. If there are problems I don’t want to end up paying expensive freight plus excessive UK imports charges and taxes which odd over 50% to the cost and will try and get sorted out stateside.

I appreciate any help or further comments you can offer.

Thanks,

Steve

(I’m modelling SF in the 50s so not sure if the problems you mentioned are relevant or not and apply to the Es when first delivered rather than later SF alterations!).

If anybody else can clarify would be great. Thanks again.

Steve;

Wish I could be of more help but I'm not able to post pictures at this time.  The E6 is the as delivered model (my saying "Definitely not as delivered" was misleading as I meant "not as detailed as I had understood it would be").  As to your 1950's era, the engine has a single headlight rather than two, no numeral board above the windshield and no roof air deflectors...all of which would be on a mid fifties unit.  I don't know if 3rd rail offered those options.  If they didn't, you will be getting a pre 1945 version.  That said, for my era, it is a handsome beast and my concerns could be corrected by a good modeler.

Allan

Allan E posted:
Steve Adby posted:
Allan E posted:

E6 15 ( I had asked for fast 14) arrived on the property this afternoon.  Haven't had a chance to take a good look but did notice that the pilot brakeman's step is wrong;  however, a nice touch is that a second pilot (closed) is included.  Also, no roof bell, wrong horns and nose stripe.  Definitely not as delivered.  Early days with it but starting as something of a disappointment.

Allan

Hi Allan.

Any chance you could post a picture or two please. I’m about to take delivery of a SF E6 to the UK. If there are problems I don’t want to end up paying expensive freight plus excessive UK imports charges and taxes which odd over 50% to the cost and will try and get sorted out stateside.

I appreciate any help or further comments you can offer.

Thanks,

Steve

(I’m modelling SF in the 50s so not sure if the problems you mentioned are relevant or not and apply to the Es when first delivered rather than later SF alterations!).

If anybody else can clarify would be great. Thanks again.

Steve;

Wish I could be of more help but I'm not able to post pictures at this time.  The E6 is the as delivered model (my saying "Definitely not as delivered" was misleading as I meant "not as detailed as I had understood it would be").  As to your 1950's era, the engine has a single headlight rather than two, no numeral board above the windshield and no roof air deflectors...all of which would be on a mid fifties unit.  I don't know if 3rd rail offered those options.  If they didn't, you will be getting a pre 1945 version.  That said, for my era, it is a handsome beast and my concerns could be corrected by a good modeler.

Allan

Hi Allan

Many thanks for the reply.

I did wonder if I’d get the ‘bells and whistles’ but it IS such a handsome beast and in my own happy world I can live with it as it is!

Happy modelling!

Has anybody else taken delivery of any E6s (for any roads) they can post pics of please.

Thanks.

Yes, most of the E6s were done in the Early configurations. Otherwise there were too many variations, even among the same road name. Here's a post of the Production Sample SFWB. Yes, those are nickel plated brass plate inserts on the sides top to bottom both A and B Units. 2 Rail Coupler Pilot shown, Closed Pilot in the box (2 Rail). One little surprise I forgot to mention, we placed buffer beams in the parts baggie of each model (A Unit). They slip onto the Anti-climbers for added realism. Some roads had them, some didn't but we included them in each box.

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Yes, most of the E6s were done in the Early configurations. Otherwise there were too many variations, even among the same road name. Here's a post of the Production Sample SFWB. Yes, those are nickel plated brass plate inserts on the sides top to bottom both A and B Units. 2 Rail Coupler Pilot shown, Closed Pilot in the box (2 Rail). One little surprise I forgot to mention, we placed buffer beams in the parts baggie of each model (A Unit). They slip onto the Anti-climbers for added realism. Some roads had them, some didn't but we included them in each box.

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Looks great Scott!

Many thanks for the post.

Steve

Carey Williams posted:

Someone was asking about a PRR E3  Atlantic ....  Fred Icken made at least one of them  circa 1934... double gear reduction ..runs sweet . ... not bad for pushing 85...

[In the voice of Ted Levine, from The Fast and the Furious]  "...It's the gear ratio, Brian.  It always has been the gear ratio."

Creep, coast, and pull.  We're not talking about cold fusion here.

Just received a set of AA Chicago & North Western E6's. I have not run them yet, but the decoration is fantastic! Thanks Scott, Jonathan. My only regret is that I could not also get the Illinois Central units. Now we just need some cars to pull with these engines...

 

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The last image is of C&NW E6 5005 B in Minneapolis - St. Paul. Photo by Ron V. Nixon.

Charlie

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Why do you guys keep intruding into this thread with posts about steam locomotives????

This is obviously a thread about the new Sunset E6 DIESELS !

Perhaps someone should start a new post as these beauties are received by their owners with photos and comments and please don't muddy the waters with comments about the steamers...

c.sam posted:

Why do you guys keep intruding into this thread with posts about steam locomotives????

This is obviously a thread about the new Sunset E6 DIESELS !

Perhaps someone should start a new post as these beauties are received by their owners with photos and comments and please don't muddy the waters with comments about the steamers...

Sam, not really obviously clear.  The OP should have titled this thread "Sunset E6 Diesels."

To us Pennsy fans we know and see this "E6" title as a Pennsy Atlantic.  The most famous of Number 460 the Lindbergh  train with the movie film of his return where in the film was processed on the train whole in route.  Another canister was flown then processed upon arrival.  The trains film was first to be viewed.

Ron

Sorry Sam!  But I think what I posted is applicable to the Sunset diesels too.  Sound engineering design, such as a conservative gear ratio suitable for a scale model, will stand the test of time.  Unlike the gimmicky electronics used by other manufacturers to force their cheap and tiny motors to run at very low RPMs.  The Sunset diesels have a real "drive."  Fred Icken had the right idea, quality beats gimmicks every time!

Creep, coast, and pull.  We're not talking about cold fusion here.

Charlie posted:

Just received a set of AA Chicago & North Western E6's. I have not run them yet, but the decoration is fantastic! Thanks Scott, Jonathan. My only regret is that I could not also get the Illinois Central units. Now we just need some cars to pull with these engines...

 

5005B 15005B 25005B 35005B real

The last image is of C&NW E6 5005 B in Minneapolis - St. Paul. Photo by Ron V. Nixon.

Charlie

Wow! That looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing a quality picture!

Please post your photos when the models arrive.  Charlie was kind enough to email his as I rarely see all the variations that we do!  I should be seeing my ATSF A-B and Burlington E5 sometime next week I hope.  I'll take some time to get quality photos of them. 

Jonathan

 

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