Electric Avenue

https://youtu.be/bLrHWXmkbPM

Gotta love those LGB E-1 steeple cabs! I have the dark blue/beige 2030E with black pinstriping.

This isn't heavy electric...but my Sierra Street Railway is still electric.  (The trolley is an old General Models birney  with a handcar motor truck).  Runs fine.

                                                                                                                                 Logan

Fortescue and Norma Bates Kitteh are dubious about this test fitting...

And promptly go into conference on the subject...

More as things develop.  

Mitch 

Juice Jack's are way COOL, whatever gauge or scale!

Here are a few:

How they are powered without catenary or outside third rail:    

Jim

Jim Policastro posted:

How they are powered without catenary or outside third rail:    

Brilliant!  I'm jealous that I didn't think of that!  

Mitch 

NOTHING wrong with imaginary catenary - NO worse than 3 rails or static figures! Imagination is a huge part of our hobby - deal with it! 

Jim Policastro: That Tesla Power Station is PRICELESS! LOL!

Tinplate Art posted:

NOTHING wrong with imaginary catenary - NO worse than 3 rails or static figures! Imagination is a huge part of our hobby - deal with it! 

Certainly imagination is critical with any modeling effort, trains or otherwise, but the lack of catenary crosses my line of an Imagination Bridge Too Far. Now, I love electrics, have several, but I find myself running only the NYC/some NH because these were outside third-rail locos (yes, the NH - some - were both). Being a NYC fan, running my P-2, T-3 and S-1/S-2 would be a tendency anyway. My third rail is in the wrong place (the middle), but it is far less "wrong" than pantographs reaching for power that will never come. My under-running, 2-rail/outside third rail NYC project never got started; no room for it, and I'm getting older. The engineering would have been interesting. 

It's a funny thing that even a "pointless pantograph" GG1 is worlds closer internally to the prototype than any of our steamers (no water in the "boiler") or diesels (no fuel in the "tank" - unless they run on "refined speaker"), but it just looks so silly.

Who needs catenary?  Certainly not Jim P. with his wireless Tesla electric distribution system.

Hal

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

Marty, your layout and in particular, your catenary system is truly inspiring.

I have run under actual catenary with my LGB crocodile locos but never with my O gauge juicejacks. Either way I always had FUN! Menard's should make a licensed model of Jim's Tesla Power Station!  LOL!

This is my smallest. Don

Very nice!  Who built that?

I did with my 3-D printer. Don

Ah, yes.  I recall now.  Quite a nice loco! 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...arztBvtkhO4&t=17

I guess I like electrics

  " I guess I like electrics "     I'd say...  NICE collection !!

ALL NICE engines! I divested myself of all my O gauge models except for a Bachmann/Williams PCC in New York City green/silver livery in a display case. I do have an LGB 2030E E1 steeple cab in blue/beige livery with black pinstriping, an LGB  2040 RhB brown "baby" crocodile #414 with authentic digital sounds, and finally an MTH dark green 408E. Electrics RULE!

briansilvermustang posted:

  " I guess I like electrics "     I'd say...  NICE collection !!

Thanks Brian! Forgot a few too ....  Also not pictured but in my collection are my O scale P5as - modified and box cab, 2 HO E60s, an N scale E 60, an HO brass 4 wheel electric switcher based on a Japanese prototype, and 5 HO trolleys.  I've always enjoyed electrics since I was very young. 

3 scales of Metroliners

O and HO

HO & N (custom painted cab car I did back in the 90's.)

One off home-built GG1 in HO

"We gonna rock down to Electric Avenue" soon, but I want to follow this and I don't want to wait on that button to work for me today  

Growing up in Brooklyn and Queens in NYC 1942-1961, there was plenty of electric action on the surface, in the air and underground! Many "fallen flags" still existed and the all the rides were great! BMT Standards, open platform cars on the old Myrtle Ave. El, LIRR Mu's, Lackawanna dark green MU's out of Hoboken, GGI'S and DD1's in Sunnyside Yard, Brooklyn and Queens trolleys, NYC S class and T class electrics, and many others! Those, INDEED, "were the days", and I remember them well! I have NEVER stopped loving electric traction, except of course, diesels! My nickname for diesels is infernal combustion! LOL!

The rest of my electrics.

And somewhere there is a Scale Williams green GG1.

Ron

My feet been coooaal draggin'

Half the utility bills?A holiday stop.

Gee..GEE ! One really juices me up most; coming or going.

I love this ones ornate panels .

Franken Trolley?

Aka.... Electric Funeral                        A Red Devil. A real cross state high speed interurban at 80+mph. " The Airplane racing champs" of their day "back when"

                        very COOL stuff ADRIATIC

                                 more pic's please...

briansilvermustang posted:

Putting the "rust" into rustic.  Still, better than scrapping.   

Mitch

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

Putting the "rust" into rustic.  Still, better than scrapping.   

Mitch

Strasburg pa

Bill T posted:

If thats a 56-58 thats a rare JET💗🚂👍

Wulfe67 posted:

Bill T posted:

If thats a 56-58 thats a rare JET💗🚂👍

Yep, a Postwar favorite on the S&Y RR.

    Bill T.

D500 posted:

Certainly imagination is critical with any modeling effort, trains or otherwise, but the lack of catenary crosses my line of an Imagination Bridge Too Far.

I..sort of...agree.  The only catenary electrics I have are postwar, and when running those, I don't hesitate to use "imaginary catenary."  But when running scale, I'd certainly prefer catenary, even if it was only dummy wire, and just for looks.

Trouble is, mine is (by necessity) a floor layout, and I can't imagine how I'd install catenary -- even dummy catenary -- on a basement-floor FasTrack layout.

Now, I love electrics, have several, but I find myself running only the NYC/some NH because these were outside third-rail locos (yes, the NH - some - were both). Being a NYC fan, running my P-2, T-3 and S-1/S-2 would be a tendency anyway.

I've fallen into the same pattern -- the only scale electric locomotive I run is my Lionel S1 NYC electric.  And I wouldn't mind a P- or T-motor to go with it.  But it'd still be nice to be able to accommodate a pantograph-equipped locomotive, if only I could figure out how.

 

Love those GG1's

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

Putting the "rust" into rustic.  Still, better than scrapping.   

Mitch

Very sad state... still better than electric blue or Razorback red   

GG1 4877 posted:

I guess I like electrics

As much as I like GG-1’s, this screams for an intervention   

But seriously, that is a beautiful and impressive collection.

Balshis posted:

D500 posted:

Certainly imagination is critical with any modeling effort, trains or otherwise, but the lack of catenary crosses my line of an Imagination Bridge Too Far.

I..sort of...agree.  The only catenary electrics I have are postwar, and when running those, I don't hesitate to use "imaginary catenary."  But when running scale, I'd certainly prefer catenary, even if it was only dummy wire, and just for looks.

Trouble is, mine is (by necessity) a floor layout, and I can't imagine how I'd install catenary -- even dummy catenary -- on a basement-floor FasTrack layout.

Now, I love electrics, have several, but I find myself running only the NYC/some NH because these were outside third-rail locos (yes, the NH - some - were both). Being a NYC fan, running my P-2, T-3 and S-1/S-2 would be a tendency anyway.

I've fallen into the same pattern -- the only scale electric locomotive I run is my Lionel S1 NYC electric.  And I wouldn't mind a P- or T-motor to go with it.  But it'd still be nice to be able to accommodate a pantograph-equipped locomotive, if only I could figure out how.

 

 

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Apples55 posted:

GG1 4877 posted:

I guess I like electrics

As much as I like GG-1’s, this screams for an intervention   

But seriously, that is a beautiful and impressive collection.

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Don't know why Lionel, then Williams didn't do a better job matching their color to Milwaukee Road. Before MTH came out with their scale Milwakee electrics I ran three Williams "Little Joes". I had to paint them to match my passenger cars. Don

m

Here is a very little home built electric mostly made of wood. Don

scale rail posted:

Don't know why Lionel, then Williams didn't do a better job matching their color to Milwaukee Road. Before MTH came out with their scale Milwakee electrics I ran three Williams "Little Joes". I had to paint them to match my passenger cars. Don

m

Because Milwaukee rd had those colors in early 50s...then they got refurbish or repainted..then the tints got darker on most because of painting over original paint..darkening it...by the time mkr changed its livery to newer units...the colors were 3 shades different...thus the toy manufacturing quandary😛🚎🎨🚃🎨🚋🎨🚈🎨🚂😛

P.S. CHOO CHOOS RULE

I have about every book published about the Milwaukee Road with many early color pictures and I've never seen the colors like Lionel or Williams came up with. The Williams motors came out very late in the life of the Milwaukee. To me it looks like Williams copied Lionel not the Milwaukee. Colors were way off from the real RR. Floquil and other paints made Milwaukee orange and maroon and they were very close to true Milwaukee colors. MTH, K-line and Lionel while not perfect were a lot closer. Don

Marty Fitzhenry posted:

 

 

Very Nice...Hmmm..looks like RC model balsa 3/8×3/8 square spar and perlin stock for aircraft i use..patterned after pole barn timbre structure ...out in my neck of the woods...the real stuff is early post war vertical standing I beams with lateral wire and insulators between each beam...the track parallels hang dowm suspended by v shaped verticals....im going to make some for my outer most loop tk#4 on my little test track....when finished it will look almost identical....i want to avoid the trolley cantery effect...difference between a pantograph and a wheeled whip🚎🚋🚈

Marty, that first picture is a cover shot if I ever saw one. GREAT shot. Don

G

Ok, I got bored last night  

wulfe67, that is 1/4 inch metal key stock welded to the bases.

I've got to get me one of those Tesla thingies, and I don't mean the automobile.

Home brew "third rail" electric (behind the orange diseasel).

It should be noted the NYC S & T class electrics used third rail power, and not catenary like the PRR and MW electrics. The small tunnel pantographs were used on the many crossover switch tracks under GCT to maintain electrical continuity.

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

modeltrainsparts posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

Upstate NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2eaDVSnLA

NJCJOE posted:

modeltrainsparts posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

Upstate NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2eaDVSnLA

          COOL !  thanks Joe... 

PRR O1 scratch built.

Milwaukee Road GE Boxcabs across the Cascades. Don 

NJCJOE posted:

modeltrainsparts posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

Upstate NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2eaDVSnLA

I thought so -- they're in Cooperstown Junction (near Maryland, NY), about 35 miles from my house. One is now owned by the Henry Ford Museum. I don't know if it has been moved yet.

That rusted, abandoned GG1 is a very SAD SIGHT, even though many were saved!  😐

Here are some of mine from the Basement Central RR:

Enjoy, Marty

I wish the Henry Ford would move it. It will then be 5 miles from me.

Ending the GG-1 a bit 

Tinplate Art posted:

It should be noted the NYC S & T class electrics used third rail power, and not catenary like the PRR and MW electrics. The small tunnel pantographs were used on the many crossover switch tracks under GCT to maintain electrical continuity.

Tinplate Art posted:

It should be noted the NYC S & T class electrics used third rail power, and not catenary like the PRR and MW electrics. The small tunnel pantographs were used on the many crossover switch tracks under GCT to maintain electrical continuity.

modeltrainsparts posted:

NJCJOE posted:

modeltrainsparts posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

Upstate NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2eaDVSnLA

I thought so -- they're in Cooperstown Junction (near Maryland, NY), about 35 miles from my house. One is now owned by the Henry Ford Museum. I don't know if it has been moved yet.

Ending the GG-1 a bit soon spoiled a spring break trip and I never got to see one run.

I wish the Henry Ford would hurry it up. It will be 5miles away once there.

briansilvermustang posted:

?  

Contrary to popular belief,  the Washington,  DC subway opened in 1953, not 1976.    

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Railroad_train_wreck

Mitch 

  thanks Mitch !!

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

?  

Contrary to popular belief,  the Washington,  DC subway opened in 1953, not 1976.    

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...Railroad_train_wreck

Mitch 

 

You really have it in for GG-1’s, don’t you, Mitch!!!

This was the ultimate scrounge... the engine was removed, rebuilt, and ran for another 30 years.

Apples55 posted:

You really have it in for GG-1’s, don’t you, Mitch!!!

Well... 

This was the ultimate scrounge... the engine was removed, rebuilt, and ran for another 30 years.

Yeppers!   

Mitch 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

Apples55 posted:

You really have it in for GG-1’s, don’t you, Mitch!!!

Well... 

This was the ultimate scrounge... the engine was removed, rebuilt, and ran for another 30 years.

Yeppers!   

Mitch 

best laid plans and all that

Apples55 posted:

The congregation of Our Lady Of Sudden Deceleration wasn't too thrilled, either... 

Mitch 

If the GG1 was the only locomotive to have ever been built, I would be like a pig in sh*t.  At the moment I own 9 examples, both Lionel and K-Line.  All semi-scale.  

https://youtu.be/Pr3zgdBpkvA

What could be more appropriate for this thread than a photo of a Pittsburgh Railways PCC Route 87 Ardmore on the street named "ELECTRIC AVENUE" in East Pittsburgh heading for the Westinghouse plant in which the traction motors had been designed and built for this and many other trolleys, subways, rapid transit cars, interurbans and electric locomotives, including at least 20 GG-1’s.

Photo from "Touring Pittsburgh by Trolley", by Harold A. Smith, 1992. 

Bill

The Broadway Limited behind a MTH, scale GG-1

A homemade standard gauge   live catenary & working MU set ,

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 

Can’t have enough GG1’s. Great shot Brian.

JohnnieWalker posted:

A homemade standard gauge   live catenary & working MU set ,

Nice video and awesome work.

P5a modified 

Then and now.

briansilvermustang posted:

Still graceful, even in boring basic black   

briansilvermustang posted: 

 

That was TOTALLY uncalled for, Brian  

Apples55 posted:

That was TOTALLY uncalled for, Brian  

Coulda been worse. 

Mitch

Adriatic posted:

I wish the Henry Ford would move it. It will then be 5 miles from me.

Ending the GG-1 a bit 

Tinplate Art posted:

It should be noted the NYC S & T class electrics used third rail power, and not catenary like the PRR and MW electrics. The small tunnel pantographs were used on the many crossover switch tracks under GCT to maintain electrical continuity.

Tinplate Art posted:

It should be noted the NYC S & T class electrics used third rail power, and not catenary like the PRR and MW electrics. The small tunnel pantographs were used on the many crossover switch tracks under GCT to maintain electrical continuity.

modeltrainsparts posted:

NJCJOE posted:

modeltrainsparts posted:

briansilvermustang posted:

 

 Where were these photos taken? Do you have any showing the locomotive number?

Upstate NY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_2eaDVSnLA

I thought so -- they're in Cooperstown Junction (near Maryland, NY), about 35 miles from my house. One is now owned by the Henry Ford Museum. I don't know if it has been moved yet.

Ending the GG-1 a bit soon spoiled a spring break trip and I never got to see one run.

I wish the Henry Ford would hurry it up. It will be 5miles away once there.

     This GG-1 is near my brother-in-law's house. I visited this site several times. Originally there were TWO GG-1's coupled together a distance from the current site. It's a shame what vandals have done to this unit, but as has been discussed here before, there are many old GG-1's hanging around like this one. Any that were going to be restored HAVE been restored and so there is a surplus.

     I also remember reading somewhere, perhaps on this forum, that the Henry Ford Museum was going to purchase one of these units in New York State until they were told of the shipping costs!

John

Norfolk Southern locomotive powered by a battery. 

M. Mitchell Marmel posted:

Apples55 posted:

That was TOTALLY uncalled for, Brian  

Coulda been worse. 

Mitch

Great, Brian... now look at what you’ve done    

And leave it to Mitch to come up with this fantasy... er, nightmarish paint scheme. While I find it somewhat heretical, it is still much less offensive than the bicentennial model.