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and then there is the electric no one wanted to make..  The PRR E2b:

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This is my long term (REALLY long term) project. I have gone so far as to:

1) Get donor shells can be suitably kitbashed (MTH EP 5s),  You can see the similarities...and the differences. The primary one being the EP5 is much shorter and less massive).  With the MTH units I'll get the right sounds (close enough) and the nifty panograph movement.

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2) Running gear (Sunset F units),

3) The truck sides made in resin, then cast in brass. Work done by Russ Briggs

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4) the 48" wheels  using the Sunset axles. Wheels machined by Carl Jackson

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Stay tuned.

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Last edited by John Sethian

Here's 80% of my electric fleet.

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Williams Conrail E-33, K-Line GN EP-5, K-Line traditional GG1 and a Lionel MPC PRR single stripe EP-5.  I don't know if either the E-33 or the K-Line EP-5 are scale but the K-line EP-5 is significantly longer and marginally wider than the Lionel and the Williams E-33 is significantly longer than Lionel's rectifier.  The last horse in the stable is a Williams Amtrak E-60 that is undergoing long term conversion to a GN Big Sky Blue paint scheme.  I'm also trying to find pantographs to replace the Williams pantographs that are in need of repair.  I've picked up one Atlas AEM 7 pantograph trying to find another.

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@GG1 4877 posted:

Sunset DD1

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I had a set of them and could not get rid of them quick enough. One trip around the layout and one of the gears (worm, ISTR) was stripped

Some more of my miscellaneous electrics, both two and three-rail.

Two-Rail:

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Now for the oddest NH EP-3; someone did this one up in Denver & Inter Mountain:

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Three-rail, I also have a Weaver gold GG1 and a scale MTH silver GG1 (but no photos of them):

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Note this EP-5 is a three-rail version; I have both.

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A humuorous note about the HHP-8. It quit running after about an hour or so; I told a friend about it (he was a tower operator at K Tower at Washington Union Station), he said "Well, Lionel got that right, the real ones were not too reliable, either!" I had planned on two-railing it with the guts of the Atlas AEM-7 so I was not too concerned and I had not opened the factory carton until a couple of years after purchase anyway.



Trolley. I also have several more box motors and steeple-cabs (again, no photos):

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Last edited by PRRMP54
@coach joe posted:

Here's 80% of my electric fleet.

Williams Conrail E-33, K-Line GN EP-5, K-Line traditional GG1 and a Lionel MPC PRR single stripe EP-5.  I don't know if either the E-33 or the K-Line EP-5 are scale but the K-line EP-5 is significantly longer and marginally wider than the Lionel and the Williams E-33 is significantly longer than Lionel's rectifier.  The last horse in the stable is a Williams Amtrak E-60 that is undergoing long term conversion to a GN Big Sky Blue paint scheme.  I'm also trying to find pantographs to replace the Williams pantographs that are in need of repair.  I've picked up one Atlas AEM 7 pantograph trying to find another.

The Williams E33 is fairly close to scale.  The K-Line EP5 is as close to scale as the Overland brass one.

@GG1 4877 posted:

The Williams E33 is fairly close to scale. ...snip...

I took mine over to a friend's and we compared it to his scale one, the only significant difference we could detect was the height of the body, the Williams was about a half-inch or so taller to accommodate the "China drives".  Other than that, it matched up quite well.

@GG1 4877 posted:

...snip... The K-Line EP5 is as close to scale as the Overland brass one.

On another forum (or maybe here, I no longer remember), when I posted my photo of the two-railed version that I had just acquired, one of the posters said that K-Line one was better than the Overland one. One day I would like to be able to compare the two side-by-side.

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