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I connected the lighting to the MC last night to test it out. I got the headlights to work with engine direction but not the markers. Not sure if it's a programming issue or electrical yet.

I'm using the "feature" terminal on the MC board and followed the programming instructions on the Cab-1L but nothing. All of the commons are tied together under the same terminal too.

Thoughts?

Also, I'm not getting the correct sound out of the board. It's not going through the start up and rev sequence that it should. Can these boards be reprogrammed?

Being a ERR and Cab-1L newbie on both, I'm still feeling my way through programming engines with the remote.

Bob

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If you posted a schematic of how you wired the lights it would make it a ton easier to analyze the issue.

Are you using the ERR RailSounds Commander?  If so, you should be getting all the sounds.  Not being able to hear what sounds you are getting makes it hard to say if it's working correctly.

I attached a quick sketch John. I'm working from your schematic from your BEEP build.

Here is a short video with the sounds on start up. The boards are MC V-2 and SC V-2.10.  I will confirm the numbers on the SC board this evening.

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Mystery solved, you are using the Sound Commander, not the RailSounds Commander.  The old Sound Commander didn't have startup or shutdown sounds.  I used the full RailSounds commander for my BEEP build.

As for the markers, the polarity is reversed, the feature output is positive in respect to frame ground, the headlight/taillight outputs are negative in respect to frame ground.

The reason mine weren't wired that way is I didn't use the feature output for the markers, I used the front/back headlights to make the markers color directional with dual-color common anode LED's.

Mystery solved, you are using the Sound Commander, not the RailSounds Commander.  The old Sound Commander didn't have startup or shutdown sounds.  I used the full RailSounds commander for my BEEP build.

As for the markers, the polarity is reversed, the feature output is positive in respect to frame ground, the headlight/taillight outputs are negative in respect to frame ground.

The reason mine weren't wired that way is I didn't use the feature output for the markers, I used the front/back headlights to make the markers color directional with dual-color common anode LED's.

That's why you're the expert John.

I will swap the wires later. I had a feeling that may be the problem but it was getting late last night and I decided to pull the plug for the evening.

I can live with the sounds as they are. I just didn't know if the board was working correctly.

Thanks sir!
Bob

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I have officially completed my first ERR upgrade. I finished the wiring and got the shell back on with little problem.

I tested the marker lights and John had suggested but could not get them to work. Not sure if it was still a wiring issue or a programming one. I decided to connect them to the track power terminals. I figured they are always on anyway and they will be a indicator of when the engine is on a powered track or siding.

I took everything apart and cleaned up the wiring, had to replace the power wire coming from the pickups (it broke), and re-solder one of the motor leads. Better at that point then after I put it all together.

Once that was done I made up the JST plugs for the lighting. Now I can completely remove the shell and not have to cut any wires. I may update the lighting in my other two beeps and could swap shells depending on what I'm running.

Here are a couple pix of the final assembly. The three wire harness is the headlights and the two wire is the markers.

This was a fun project. I'm going to do an AC commander in my Santa Fe F3's next.

On the left is the lighting complete, and the right with the sound commander installed.

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And here's the final product on a test run.

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@RSJB18 posted:

I have officially completed my first ERR upgrade. I finished the wiring and got the shell back on with little problem.

I tested the marker lights and John had suggested but could not get them to work. Not sure if it was still a wiring issue or a programming one. I decided to connect them to the track power terminals. I figured they are always on anyway and they will be a indicator of when the engine is on a powered track or siding.

I took everything apart and cleaned up the wiring, had to replace the power wire coming from the pickups (it broke), and re-solder one of the motor leads. Better at that point then after I put it all together.

Once that was done I made up the JST plugs for the lighting. Now I can completely remove the shell and not have to cut any wires. I may update the lighting in my other two beeps and could swap shells depending on what I'm running.

Here are a couple pix of the final assembly. The three wire harness is the headlights and the two wire is the markers.

This was a fun project. I'm going to do an AC commander in my Santa Fe F3's next.

On the left is the lighting complete, and the right with the sound commander installed.



And here's the final product on a test run.

Bob,Looks greay and sounds great. Good things come from patience and perseverance.

@RSJB18 posted:

I have officially completed my first ERR upgrade. I finished the wiring and got the shell back on with little problem.

I tested the marker lights and John had suggested but could not get them to work. Not sure if it was still a wiring issue or a programming one. I decided to connect them to the track power terminals. I figured they are always on anyway and they will be a indicator of when the engine is on a powered track or siding.

I took everything apart and cleaned up the wiring, had to replace the power wire coming from the pickups (it broke), and re-solder one of the motor leads. Better at that point then after I put it all together.

Once that was done I made up the JST plugs for the lighting. Now I can completely remove the shell and not have to cut any wires. I may update the lighting in my other two beeps and could swap shells depending on what I'm running.

Here are a couple pix of the final assembly. The three wire harness is the headlights and the two wire is the markers.

This was a fun project. I'm going to do an AC commander in my Santa Fe F3's next.

On the left is the lighting complete, and the right with the sound commander installed.

2021-11-21 17.27.102021-11-21 17.31.53

And here's the final product on a test run.

HATE TO SOUND GOOFY.... but ......YIPEE BOB.

Really great to see all that effort pay off with a good looking locomotive. 👍

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And a bigger layout to run it on too! 🤣🤣

Here you go, runs on O31 curves. This is the K-Line Reading Crusader, I just wrapped up a full command upgrade on it.  It got the works, cruise, sound, all led lighting, fan driven smoke, ground lights, flickering firebox, etc.

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Here you go, runs on O31 curves. This is the K-Line Reading Crusader, I just wrapped up a full command upgrade on it.  It got the works, cruise, sound, all led lighting, fan driven smoke, ground lights, flickering firebox, etc.

What.......no LED ditch lights John ?

Really nice GRJ .  What a talent.     And what an immense size area for the Crusader to run on.

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