Does anyone know what the final K-Line Collector's Club locomotives were that Lionel manufactured? I thought it was only the 2 CSX models (w/TMCC and without), but I'm reading and hearing that there were actually 6 models. 2 CSX, 2 Santa Fe, and 2 Alaska.
If this is true, were they all part of the same type of deal where Lionel manufactured all of them?
And if you know this info, would anyone know also what those sku numbers were for all and maybe how much they might be worth if they're all in good condition?
Thanks.
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Last that I knew of were the SD70s/SD75s - I have the Santa Fe version. You can go to Alaska Railroad, CSX, and Santa Fe Road Names to see them and their SKU numbers (it says Collectors Club on the description). Link
I don't know where they were made, but the details on them are really nice.
I think I was looking for the Lionel part#'s since that's how they were manufactured and I believe sold under as well. So there were more than just the one road name then for the collector's club? I didn't realize that a CC would offer so many different options (3 different road names) on a single offering.
From the auction site and the web, here are the Engine Numbers I could find which should be all of them:
6-11559 Engine # 204 with TMCC
6-11560 Engine # 204 Conventional
6-11561 Engine #204 Conventional with Cruise
It looks like the CSX were:
6-11556 Engine #722 with TMCC
6-11557 Engine #722 Conventional
6-11558 Engine #722 Conventional with Cruise
It looks like Alaska were:
6-11553 Engine #4002 with TMCC
6-11554 Engine #4002 Conventional
6-11555 Engine $4002 Conventional with Cruise
wow that's awesome!! Thanks Allan. Appreciate the research and info.
No problem - always happy to help!
Lionel did not actually sell them they filled collector club members orders. I got two of the 204 SF and still have them in the boxes. They are beautiful engines which I will never run since I returned to S Gauge.
Gunny
To answer the other part of your question. Lionel did not make them. K-line was a stand alone company. Lionel and K-line had, let's say a dispute..... long story short, Lionel took possession of K-line inventory and honored the purchases but put them in Lionel boxes.
Correct - I remember talking to a K-Line person after they announced they were closing asking about the engines and they didn't know what was going to happen. Then I got an email from Lionel saying as pretty much a last act for K-Line is that Lionel would still honor the engines which I appreciated. I was surprised they had Lionel boxes and not K-Line, but I got my engine and was happy about it.
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What are the Min curves on these? are they different from the SD70 to the SD75?
LIONEL did not honor anything. It was part of the court agreement. LIONEL was to ship the K-LINE prepaid items to customers. Best i recall it was:
SD70 & SD75
The CONRAIL company safety sets
Sawmill
Doug
"LIONEL did not honor anything. It was part of the court agreement."
Question.
Did Lionel follow the court agreement to which the company agreed?
Well, then, Lionel did honor everything they agreed to.
I remember the email from Lionel stating they would honor the purchase of the engines from K-Line indicating they were under no obligation to do so. The fact that K-Line employees had no idea what would happen when they announced they were closing makes me think that they did not know what Lionel would do...
"It was part of the court agreement."
Where did you get this information? I believe it is incorrect.
Just picked up one of these. Bit of a mess with no sounds.
No manual either. There are a series of switches under a hatch on top but....NO program/run switch.
Can't see one on the underbelly either.
I cannot find anything on line.
Can someone advise me on how to program this piece.
Thank You
Dave
@Soo Line posted:No manual either. There are a series of switches under a hatch on top but....NO program/run switch.
Can't see one on the underbelly either.
Mine are stored, so I don't have them to look at. However, these came in both TMCC and conventional models. Yours may be conventional.
Thanks Ron...I should have listed the product number....
6-11559 It is TMCC command with smoke and cruise.
Under the hatch on top are switches for sound, smoke, cruise and a reverse lock.......cannot find the program/run switch.
Dave
On the TMCC models, the reverse lock is the program/run switch. Check your email, sent pdfs of the manual.
Here are some of the K-Line advertisements and articles about these engines. I recall hearing that Lionel did more than just put them in orange boxes, but actually upgraded them a bit - do not recall the details, however.
David