This applies to to the new version of Lion Chief that lets you run trains with a Legacy. I would like to hear more about this from O gauge people who have this capability. And what is the cost of this upgrade over what we have now. Many/most people don't have TMCC or Legacy so if the cost is significant then I am not in favor of it.
Bill, as of now I don't think anyone (O or S) has the ability to run Lion Chief, Lion Chief + or Flyer Chief with Legacy. What is available are Legacy engines with Bluetooth capability like the Lion Chief + engines have.
The introduction of Lion Chief + (2.0) will make it available that a user who has a TMCC controller will be able to operate a Lion Chief engine. It must be the newly proposed 2.0 versions.
When these new versions come out a person who has a Legacy controller will also be able to access the 2.0 versions but only in TMCC mode.
All of the above statements are what I gleaned from the Ryan and Dave show referenced above. Any incorrect statements are mine alone. Any corrections or clarifications are welcome.
I think Lionel will end up with maybe 3 categories of engines...
1. LionChief--entry level engines (sets) that include a controller. Works also with the APP.
2. LionChief + (2.0)--NO CONTROLLER INCLUDED. Higher level of quality, more sounds, operate with Bluetooth APP or TMCC. (I suspect Flyer Chief will follow this category)
3. Legacy-- NO CONTROLLER INCLUDED. Full featured...quality, sounds, smoke, etc. Operated with BT APP or Legacy Cab2.
Who knows? Maybe eventually all the engines will be operable with the BT APP that will allow multiple engines to be controlled at the same time. If the technology progresses perhaps ALL handheld controllers will be eliminated and the user will supply their own preferred controller...Phone, tablet, etc.
That would save Lionel lots of dough in production and repair costs. Hey! Then they could use the saved $$ to create new tooling for S scale!