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Reminds me of a story about a coworker from at least 45 years ago.  This fellow was a nice guy, but an ultra-perfectionist.  His wife told another coworker that he bought a brand new car.  That evening she went out to the garage to see what he was doing.  He had all 4 doors off and leaning against the walls.  Alarmed, she asked what was going on.  He said the gaps between the doors and the body weren't all quite equal in distance, so he was shimming them to make them exactly the same.

Obviously John, you have to take the engine apart to add all the items you plan to add, but your statement reminded me of this old story.  I couldn't resist. 

Congratulations Gunrunner John, the C&O yellow belly Steam Locomotive is a Winner. Your video with a 20 car freight load runs flawlessly, smoothly, and is a work of art, right at home on your beautiful  layout.  Pats the best at what he does for our steamers, the stainless steel shaft, Pittman motor, all the detail work, it’s just amazing. You could actually turn this steamer on, set it to a modest speed and it would run for hours and hours with no hick-ups. That’s because when an engine comes out of the Harmon Shops, it’s ready for duty. Now, with your smoke units, chuff stuff, etc., it’s going to be a fantastic locomotive. Thanks for the video. Merry Christmas, and Happy Railroading Everyone

@gunrunnerjohn sound difference between the elevated portion and the table with the homasote is quite striking. So is the Yellow Belly.

Yep, I'm putting some butyl rubber sound deadening sheets under the elevated section, and part of it will also be enclosed.  It's really the fact that it isn't rigidly supported that creates a lot of the noise.  I have the butyl rubber under some of the elevated section, and you can tell the difference as it runs.  A work in progress.

@Mikado 4501 posted:

Very curious to see how you'll pack the electronics into the updated locomotive, so be sure to post more updates towards its completion!

I'm considering that now.  I was thinking of using a wireless drawbar, but then I can't use a tender pickup for reliability, so it's a mixed bag.  I may use a small 4-pin tether and put the Cruise Commander in the locomotive and the sound in the tender.  It appears there's plenty of space for the Cruise Commander in the locomotive, so I have flexibility.  The big thing is handled, how to do the antenna in the locomotive, the handrails are already insulated.

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John, probably the best bet to go with the 4-pin tether. I think Pat and I had talked about that on some of the possibilities for another one of my engines(forget what one is in the Mohawk), but it is definitely reliable.

That's the way I'm leaning.  I want the extra roller for reliability, it's a common upgrade for customer locomotives for that reason.

I'm considering that now.  I was thinking of using a wireless drawbar, but then I can't use a tender pickup for reliability, so it's a mixed bag.  I may use a small 4-pin tether and put the Cruise Commander in the locomotive and the sound in the tender.  It appears there's plenty of space for the Cruise Commander in the locomotive, so I have flexibility.  The big thing is handled, how to do the antenna in the locomotive, the handrails are already insulated.

I’d love to see the setup if inside the locomotive, since Pat put the giant weight over the drivers where the LCRU used to sit.

If you could get the CC in the locomotive WITH the weight, too, that’d be exactly what I’d be after with this engine.

@Mikado 4501 posted:

I’d love to see the setup if inside the locomotive, since Pat put the giant weight over the drivers where the LCRU used to sit.

If you could get the CC in the locomotive WITH the weight, too, that’d be exactly what I’d be after with this engine.

This engine has traction tires. It will pull the same train, maybe longer without the weight if some or all has to be given up to fit the electronics. My CV has similar setup and shell and pulls like a tank without the added weight.

Pete

@Mikado 4501 posted:

I’d love to see the setup if inside the locomotive, since Pat put the giant weight over the drivers where the LCRU used to sit.

If you could get the CC in the locomotive WITH the weight, too, that’d be exactly what I’d be after with this engine.

The "giant" weight is gone.  The locomotive and shell weigh 7# 8oz, that's 120 ounces, and the weight was six ounces.  I didn't see any difference with or without it, and without it everything fits nicely.   At 5% of the weight of the locomotive, it didn't seem to offer enough for me to compromise my installations to try to keep it.  I can add some weights after all the electronics are installed if I see fit, but I suspect I won't bother.  Since it pulled the 20 cars, and clearly could have done a lot more, it seems pointless to worry about weight and concentrate on functionality and appearance.

Edit: I see Pete beat me to it.  As he says, it has traction tires, heft, and pulling power.

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The "giant" weight is gone.  The locomotive and shell weigh 7# 8oz, that's 120 ounces, and the weight was six ounces.  I didn't see any difference with or without it, and without it everything fits nicely.   At 5% of the weight of the locomotive, it didn't seem to offer enough for me to compromise my installations to try to keep it.  I can add some weights after all the electronics are installed if I see fit, but I suspect I won't bother.  Since it pulled the 20 cars, and clearly could have done a lot more, it seems pointless to worry about weight and concentrate on functionality and appearance.

Edit: I see Pete beat me to it.  As he says, it has traction tires, heft, and pulling power.

The weight was my cheap insurance, ……😉…..what you do with it on your pike is totally up to you!….glad it worked without it!…

Pat

@harmonyards posted:

John kinda cheated here fellas, ….those ore cars count as 2 for 1 …..so those math numbers are askew, ….not 100% sure if that was intentional, but it makes for good numbers,…..🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pat

Not so fast, they have as many wheels as any other car, and they're even a similar weight as many cars.  They're a legitimate car, stop denigrating my math!

Started on the locomotive, pulled the cab interior to work on the LED's, I think I need to use some special wide panels for even lighting.  I mounted the smoke unit, made a stack for it, and mounted the Cruise Commander.

I have decided to go with the wireless tether to the tender, so I got out an AD-20A and tested it to make sure it would drive the RS-Commander, backup lights, and coupler.  Of course this requires me to add center rail pickups to the tender, another pending requirement.  If all that gets too absurd, I can still use a small 4-pin tether just to drive the audio, backup, and coupler.  Time will tell...

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