Fried Fastrack terminal section - Why?!?

ADCX Rob posted:

Soldering to FasTrack will definitely result in melted plastic.

False.  

A 25w weller iron will solder to the fastrack tabs in seconds and not touch the roadbed.

Need to make a change? Touch the iron to the solder for a few seconds will release the wire.

14 GA soldered directly to the tabs is supeior to any slip on connector when it comes to conductivity, period.

I used 14 Ga buss with14GA feeder wires about every 10'. No issues, no heat, no melting and no voltage drops. A constant 17 volts at any point on my 12'x16' layout.

Don't skimp, wiring is the most important thing to the trackwork when it comes to trouble free running.

 

Volphin posted:
John H posted:

If you solder, why use a connector? Having the dimple on the flat side improves contact by tightening it up.

The short answer is the inevitable track maintenance.  .110 connectors are too loosey goosey for my taste.  If you try the brass .080 you will see.    I crimp the feeder into the connector then flow solder into the connection.  (These connectors do not have the plastic base).  You just have to keep the solder away from the female spade end and just where the wire crimps.  Goes on right, holds tight.  NEVER had one loosen up since I changed.  

28-6082 - .080 Female Disconnect. MCM Electronics dot com

 

 

  Hi Volphin, on the above 28-6082, what is the maximum gauge wire that you can crimp into the connector?

Thanks!

RickM46

And now it starts.

RickM46 posted:
Volphin posted:
John H posted:

If you solder, why use a connector? Having the dimple on the flat side improves contact by tightening it up.

The short answer is the inevitable track maintenance.  .110 connectors are too loosey goosey for my taste.  If you try the brass .080 you will see.    I crimp the feeder into the connector then flow solder into the connection.  (These connectors do not have the plastic base).  You just have to keep the solder away from the female spade end and just where the wire crimps.  Goes on right, holds tight.  NEVER had one loosen up since I changed.  

28-6082 - .080 Female Disconnect. MCM Electronics dot com

 

 

  Hi Volphin, on the above 28-6082, what is the maximum gauge wire that you can crimp into the connector?

Thanks!

I have only used 14, 16 and 18 Ga on this connector for feeders and buss applications.  Seems to me it could go a little larger, but I haven't tried other gauges.  It's not like you need battery cable for model trains anyway...    My nominal buss size is 16 Ga w/ 18 Ga feeders on my 250 ft Fastrack layout.  I do not use shrink tube on them... no need.  

I use them for accessory power buss feeders as well, and those little wires are tiny!  Right now they are soldered into my GGD coaling tower, Broadway Ltd. water tower, Lionel hobo water tower, Lionel hobo hotel, and a PE hero boy's house.  

Hope this helps.  

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RickM46 posted:

Thanks a bunch Volphin!!  I am about to order a bunch of these connectors from MCM; but, just to verify, will the female end of the connector fit the Fastrack spade terminal on the underside of the Fastrack??

Yes.  That is all I use on my Fastrack. There are two crimp points.  One is for the bare wire (closest to the female, and the one on the end holds the wire with insulated jacket.  Crimp the bare wire onto the connector, then the rest of it into the other.  I just use needle nose pliers for the crimps.  Next, hold the connector with the needle nose pliers on the top of your soldering iron tip right below the bare wire connection at a 45 degree angle.  It won't take long to heat up.  Touch the solder to it, being careful not to let it flow into the female connector where the spade goes.  (Hence the 45 degree angle).  Slip it over your fastrack spades and enjoy!  

I use the automotive zip wire from MCM as well. It is red and black, and a darn good price.  Search for product 24-1880 (16 AWG, 250 ft.) and 24-1870 (18 AWG, 100ft).  It also comes in 14 AWG.

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Volphin,

   I just order some of the 28-6082 Female Brass slip on connectors, thanks for pointing them out in the thread.  Put the company in my favorite's section also.  100 for less than $7.00 is great.  I still have lots to build in the new train room, and this should cover all my FT drop needs

Thanks,

PCRR/Dave

 

Never worry about what other people think, be strong and walk in the way of the Lord.

carsntrains posted:

Can you guys post a link to MCM or the actual .com address?   I tried to go there and it comes up either asking me if I want a hotel or telling me its going to log me out lol

They are at www.newark.com.

Here is where that exact .080 female spade connector is:

http://www.newark.com/mcm/28-6...lement14_US%2Fsearch

 I just ordered 3 packs of 100 each from their website; had a bit of an effort on their website to enter a different billing and shipping address; they are located in Illinois and do respond quickly to their customer service phone number; very helpful agents. They are located in Chicago.

RickM46

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Pine Creek Railroad posted:

Volphin,

   I just order some of the 28-6082 Female Brass slip on connectors, thanks for pointing them out in the thread.  Put the company in my favorite's section also.  100 for less than $7.00 is great.  I still have lots to build in the new train room, and this should cover all my FT drop needs

Thanks,

PCRR/Dave

 

You're welcome Dave.  Post up some images when you can.  I love seeing all the cool layout work!

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I started buying from MCM Electronics years ago because that is where we bought small electronic parts and supplies from at work.  We used Newark for larger items.  Now I am a retiree-engineering contractor at work, so I don't order there, but do for home.  I don't know how long ago it was that Newark took over MCM, but I have received the same quick service as before for home and layout items.

   If you have trouble finding them local, but can't wait for shipping, try a car radio shop. They should carry the smaller connectors for speakers.

Wire to handle more than your transformers max output, and fuse at slightly less. Breakers are more to protect the transformer, they are not really meant to protect the track though they do in a way.

Wire gauge needed is also based on wire length. Longer must be thicker at the same volt/amps. 

I go with 12g and never worry much if something it feeds goes "poof".

"Still trying to not shoot my eye out"

 

"Nursing insomnia one railcar at a time"

My aroma therapy? Smoke Pellets.

 





VOLPHIN,

   Roger that, as soon a my new battery charger for my camera comes I will take some more pictures of the train room.  Just set up the 305 Hell Gate Bridge in the middle of the Donovans Reef Bar layout, seriously cool stuff.  Lee Mavin & John Wayne would love it.

PCRR/Dave

Building Continues on the Donovans Reef Bar Top Layout!

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Never worry about what other people think, be strong and walk in the way of the Lord.

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