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1E96231F-A980-4152-B5AC-51D31FD212D0C8DBB264-A9A3-4DDF-891A-0742BD363E45Once I saw Bill T’s Tacoma Rail SD70ACe I sorta wished that I had pre ordered one when the catalog came out but didn’t because of my problems with DCS and Legacy command not playing well together.  When I discovered Lionel’s Bluetooth LionChief could be used to run the newer Legacy engines I had to have one.  I bought one from Pat’s Trains which came today.  Got a really good price on it, too!

Larry

 

Addendum: I discovered that Lionel left off the road number, which is supposed to be right near the front of each side just below the broad white stripe.

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Well here we are again, another F.E.F.  I noted that Fendermain posted a black 1989 E with a passenger consist in a prior post today.  Well I thought we might like to see the "mighty" 1689E up close, this one in gunmetal.  So here it is, offered from 1936-37, sold only in sets, the NYC Commodore Vanderbilt as interpreted by Lionel for its "Lionel Jr" line or eventually its 0-27 line.

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Happy Friday everyone...have a great weekend.

Don

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Hi everyone, it's F.E.F again !  The Leonardtown and Savannah has been thinking of pushing north from Leonardtown, (Md) via trackage rights with the B&O and thus gaining access into the City of Baltimore.  B&O would have a reciprocal agreement to gain access to southern Md and the western shore (of the Chesapeake).  So management is testing some of the B&O's new F3 diesels on the L&S trackage to see if it might work.

Here is the front view of that B&O F3 diesel.  Ready to move out towards Savannah.

Marx B&0 F3 front view

Here is the side view, showing the full AA of the units.

Marx B&O F3 side view



For the collectors among us...these are Marx #62 lithographed sheet metal units, made 52-54; 58; 67  One 4 wheel powered truck in the leading A, trailing A has no power and "headlight" lens is red.

Hope everyone has a great (and safe) weekend

Don

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Sam:

All of your photos are GREAT, but, I particulaly like the photo including PRR GG-1 #4876. That is the locomotive that was pulling the "Federal", a combined New Haven RR and PRR passenger train in 1953 to Washignton D. C. loaded with passengers for President Eisenhower's inauguration. The train developed a failure in its brake system sometime after leaving Baltimore and could not stop as it entered the terminal track at Union Station, Washington D. C.  4876 plowed through the bumper block and into the station concourse with its first few passenger coaches and sunk through the floor. Thanks to the weight and solidity of the GG-1 and the quick thinking by the on-board train crew warning the passengers to tuck down and brace for impact, no one was seriously hurt including the engine crew. 4876 was cut into smaller parts, shipped to Altoona shops, rebuilt and restored to service. It was retired from service in the early 1980's in northern New Jersey. Here are some new photos of the aftermath of the wreck.

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Sam:

All of your photos are GREAT, but, I particulaly like the photo including PRR GG-1 #4876. That is the locomotive that was pulling the "Federal", a combined New Haven RR and PRR passenger train in 1953 to Washignton D. C. loaded with passengers for President Eisenhower's inauguration. The train developed a failure in its brake system sometime after leaving Baltimore and could not stop as it entered the terminal track at Union Station, Washington D. C.  4876 plowed through the bumper block and into the station concourse with its first few passenger coaches and sunk through the floor. Thanks to the weight and solidity of the GG-1 and the quick thinking by the on-board train crew warning the passengers to tuck down and brace for impact, no one was seriously hurt including the engine crew. 4876 was cut into smaller parts, shipped to Altoona shops, rebuilt and restored to service. It was retired from service in the early 1980's in northern New Jersey. Here are some new photos of the aftermath of the wreck.

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Wow, Larry what a situation'... I hope the Engineer didn't receive a major *** chewing'...And, where the heck  do you start to clean up this mess'.... Thanks for posting'....👍

Wow, another Friday.  Its only 7:13 here in Texas but its pitch dark already, those winter days are coming.  Well its the early 30's on the Leonardtown and Savannah today, and the mighty Gerard Model Works, "Joy Line", CW steamer is about to get its heavyweight consist on the move .  Its somewhere between 1932 - 1935 just before Louis Marx would take full control of the Gerard Model Works (Gerard, Pa) and extend and expand it into Marx Trains.  At this time, Marx was a key person in the Gerard Model Works business as he was the exclusive distributor (agent) for their products.

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Hope everyone has a great weekend, stay healthy

Don

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Wow, Larry what a situation'... I hope the Engineer didn't receive a major *** chewing'...And, where the heck  do you start to clean up this mess'.... Thanks for posting'....👍

Here is a good synopsis of the 1953 wreck of the Federal at Washington, D. C. Union Station as published by the Washington, D. C. Chapter of the National Railroad Historical Society. Though, I personally have done extensive research into this event, This article touches all salient points for a good account of the event. Click the link below:

http://www.dcnrhs.org/learn/wa...-the-federal-express

As an addendum to the above information, the engine crew braced for the impact and climbed out of the engine unhurt, a testament to the superior construction of the GG-1. The Fireman (yes, fireman on an electric locomotive) lived many years after the wreck and, not too many years ago, gave a public talk about his recollections of the wreck. I need to relocate my source on the fireman's talk through the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical and Historical Society (PRRT&HS) of which I am a long-time member. I will post more information on this historic event in the "Real Trains" section of this forum at a later date.

Don McErlean, Wow that’s a beautiful red steamer, you always give us neat older trains to review, Marx, Older Lionel, Wow, Carey TeaRose, your colorful train layout and specifically the beautiful Standard gauge layout, is so cool, it’s fun to review, Friday’s just roll around faster and faster, see the Big Boy Swinging around the curve..... TGIF... it’s 5:45 AM here in Tennessee. Happy Railroading Everyone 49D7C223-411B-4ECB-ABB9-BDEE928D71A2E60B7FCD-39E8-4316-B0A3-6E858909C382

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Here is a good synopsis of the 1953 wreck of the Federal at Washington, D. C. Union Station as published by the Washington, D. C. Chapter of the National Railroad Historical Society. Though, I personally have done extensive research into this event, This article touches all salient points for a good account of the event. Click the link below:

http://www.dcnrhs.org/learn/wa...-the-federal-express

As an addendum to the above information, the engine crew braced for the impact and climbed out of the engine unhurt, a testament to the superior construction of the GG-1. The Fireman (yes, fireman on an electric locomotive) lived many years after the wreck and, not too many years ago, gave a public talk about his recollections of the wreck. I need to relocate my source on the fireman's talk through the Pennsylvania Railroad Technical and Historical Society (PRRT&HS) of which I am a long-time member. I will post more information on this historic event in the "Real Trains" section of this forum at a later date.

Went through the history again that you posted'... Very interesting..  A clogged peacock'...WHo would have guessed'....

Hi everyone, it's F.E.F. again...YEA!  Leapinlarry - thank you for the compliment and let me say that the scenery on yours and trumptrains layout is just fabulous thanks for the great pictures.  Well fellows, I guess I will continue to picture things at the opposite end of the beautiful scale and stick to what I know best..."old,broken, and obscure"  (Sounds like the nickname for a RR ) This poor fellow was never well loved by his maker, but I bet some little boy or girl loved him a lot.  He is an unnumbered sheet metal , Type XX engine. Uncatalogued  by his maker, American Flyer and made somewhere around 1935.

Here he is  with the "front end" view.  Sorry no headlight bulb  and his boiler front is showing its age.  However, for the bottom of the line, he has nice copper trim, domes and stack.  In addition he has a gear driven whistle attached to the rear of the motor.  He would be a 2-4-0 if complete but my version is an 0-4-0 as the front truck is missing or perhaps was never added by Flyer.  Hey at 86 years old, I might be missing a few front teeth!

                                                Flyer type 20 front view

Here is more of a side view showing his copper hand rails and piping to the steam dome.  The writing in the smooth square name plate near the boiler front is a decal stating "American Flyer Lines" .  He is an electric engine not clockwork.  The type XX has the distinction of being the last of the Chicago Flyer steamers.

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While this fellow is a long way from being in mint shape, I can tell you he was a "find" in an obscure antique store (as I followed my wife around looking at antique furniture) for the sum of $12, what train collector could resist!!

Happy F.E.F.

Don

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Tom Tee, I know the first print is a Robert West, is the second also RW?

Patrick was 611 at speed as it passed the billiard parlor or slowing down entering the station.  Highballing and laying on the whistle would surely effect trick shots inside.

Kevin, love that tunnel.

Randy looking at the ceiling I was wondering if that is that a modular setup somewhere?

Don Winslow great snowplow on the "General".

Rob is that the MTH Streamlined  Wabash Hudson?  I've got the Lionel first generation TMCC version.

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Randy looking at the ceiling I was wondering if that is that a modular setup somewhere?



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The photo is of our demonstration/public Christmas layout at our seasonal Christmas train shop in the climate controlled greenhouse at Richardson Farms in Baltimore, Maryland. Our now defunct model train business was there for 2 seasons. 2011 and 2012.

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Nice Paul. Considering that the PRR once owned the LIRR, it's not really a visitor.

Bob

Thanks Bob. Since my pike is in PA though, the 200 is just another Lawn-guy-land interloper (and heaven knows, we already have more than enough of them in my little corner of NEPA!!!). I have always really liked the PRR/LIRR symbol...

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Good morning, I have not posted any pictures on this topic for sometime but I have sure enjoyed the photos other members have posted.

This week my wife and I was in Clearfield PA and caught this RJ Corman empty grain train led by NS power.

This train is heading for Cresson PA to the NS Pittsburgh Main Line.

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Digging thru the archives so that I can contribute.  A few photos of the N Scale variety from my former club (South Florida Railway Museum in Deerfield Beach).

First, a meeting of two SD60M's in the yard (CSX 8759 and Union Pacific 6253)

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And a few photos of a CSX GP40-2 (#6318)...

Up close and personal

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Then with locomotive out for focus to the background quarry building...

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And then with the locomotive in focus with the quarry blurred in the background.

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None of these photo styles were done by design.  I just noticed the effects when I was going through the slides to present them here

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Hi everyone, happy F.E.F to all.  Today I have my new (to me) Marx 588 NYC switcher in the hard to find light grey/black livery.  This was made one year only 1962 with tab / slot couplers (year I graduated from High School!).  I was especially pleased to find this one as I now have all 3 liveries (Black, Maroon, & Grey) that Marx produced the NYC 588.  their total production, beginning with the Black / White livery spanned '58 -'62 with a re-appearance of this grey one, only with plastic knuckle couplers in 1964.

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Leapinlarry - thank you for the compliment.  I do get a kick out of trying to find the "odd balls" and I enjoy the fact that others enjoy seeing them as well.  Your post as always has pictures of great engines and your fabulous lay out.  I never tire of seeing what a great "empire" you have built.  WP great video...I admit to jealously when I see layouts like yours and Larry's with great track work and small angle switches.  I am afraid I am a "plywood, foam, painted green, Lionel 0-22 switches and 31" dia radii " kind of guy...but I do love to make them "go round" .  WP that livery on your diesels, is that what they called the "black widow" scheme?  Sorry if I am all messed up.

Best regards to all

Don

Don McErlean, Thank You for the nice response, I think we have something in common, Texas, I’m from Dennison Texas. As you can see from the 100’s of the OGR Forum members, each collection is different and uniquely neat. Some love pre-war, post war, modern, American Flyer, Marx, MTH, Lionel, Third Rail, K-Line, Weaver, Atlas 0, and even different types of trackage, Conventional and even different command systems, even outdoor Railroading LGB, Peco... and on and on. A basic table, painted green, tubular track, old Lionel post war, or Marx can be just as entertaining going past those nostalgic accessories, working the arms of that old ZW transformer, or the old LW with a light up as you turn the lever, it’s All Fun.

I’ve visited many many layouts, over 250, examples like Dr. Bill Bramlages Tower City, to Gale Rotching’s 16 by 16 layout with a jam packed bunch of accessories, turn table, extraordinary design, (Cincinnati Ohio) and a friends 4 by 8 table fully sceniked with the old Lionel 675 steam set flying around the track with post war freight cars and of course the milk car delivering milk.  All fun to run. All trains are fun, your nostalgic collection of older trains is fun to see. I love them all.FBDC6592-0EB5-4A85-AF1A-D8B1C751667DA9C8A9E5-F464-4B64-8064-34EA00BFD35DF5EB6765-41D2-4943-BFAA-43575CF90C5F0EC9DA9E-9525-4157-A832-0B9973542BC9D43C690F-B94B-40F4-A7DC-ECBA6340056F0142126A-B899-4F3F-949C-ED89E830B70D

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Don McErlean: Thank you for your kind words. Yes the SP F3 locomotive is in the so-called “Black Widow” paint scheme, one of my favorites. I love all types of layouts. I grew up drooling over the Lionel layouts in the 50’s catalogs, and I still like them as well. For fun, this year I made a small 4’ x 4’ layout using  027 track and the pair of manual 027 switches Santa brought me in 1957. It is that old fashioned simple type layout with 1950’s style trains and  scenicing. I love them all.

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Wow F.E.F fans...one thing arriving late gets me is a chance to see all the great posts that you have put into the thread before I got here!  Artie...I come from North Jersey and clearly remember Secaucus and the Jersey "meadow" (giant swamp, home to huge landfills!).  RSJB18 love how you did that elevated line (one of my "bucket list" jobs ).  WP - glad to hear about your 4x4 layout, maybe you could post a picture or so for inspiration, sounds really cool.  Trumptrain - the MU cars really look good. DG beautiful SF diesel and impressive detail.  Paul R ... unusual AF engine, the 0-6-0 is not all that common, it was pre-war only with Lionel.  WITZ41- WOW 2 great NW steam engines...but aren't you the leader of the UP thread ?  Beautiful steam even if they aren't UP (LOL)

My contribution today will also recall some UP trains.  This is the Marx UP E-7 Diesel AB unit.  Made only one year, 1960.  As you can see, the shell is a pretty good model of the E-7 although its closer to "S" scale than "O" although it is O gauge.   Not much interior detail at all.   This one populated a few sets for Sears and Montgomery Ward's in the day and was available for limited separate sale.  They made both powered and dummy A units as well as the dummy B so it is possible to assemble an ABA set but this AB took me years to locate.  But its the search that's fun!

Here is the A unit alone.  Good cast in detail but not much else.  It is missing a single black plastic horn on top of the cab but is otherwise fully complete.  Despite being 61 years old, like much of Marx, a little oil and she runs like a top!

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Here is a better view of the entire AB unit, including the Marx #3900 UP caboose from 1974-75

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Well fellows, great F.E.F. fun, have a happy and healthy weekend.

Don

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Good morning, the first photo this morning is a Pennsylvania L1 520 passing West Interlock and picking up its train order from the Interlock Worker on a cold December morning.

Hopefully the noise and the exhaust from the engine don’t rattle the accumulated ice and snow loose from the edge of the roof !!!!!

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Second photo although not a front end shot just a little humor, is Santa on his way to the Daily Grind Coffee shop for his morning cup of coffee. Santa has just had a encounter with Spike the Bulldog.

Spike has done a good job getting Santa up on top of the retaining wall. Hopefully Santa doesn’t have any treats in his sack !!!!!                                                            What a way for Santa to start his day.

Take care and stay safe !!!!!

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Well here I am again, late in the day.  Guess I am having too much fun, running trains (LOL)!  Bit of an excursion this week, I have been running Hornby trains today, but not the usual Hornby which are almost all clockwork.  I have 3 engines that are Hornby M3 shells but re-powered for electric operations with Marx motors and remote reversing.  They work great and are a lot of fun pulling my Hornby freight and passenger cars.  So here are some "Horn-barx" engine front ends!!

Here is the hybrid engine in black (freight normally) livery pulling just a short train of 2 LMS coaches.

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Some days on the rail road, the train needs extra help, so here is the hybrid green/black (SR?) livery engine leading a double headed express pulling a long consist of passenger coaches .

Hornby - Marx double head front view

Here is a side view of the consist showing the double headed M3 type tank engines working a relatively long train of passenger coaches.  Just for the record, these shells are light enough (almost all sheet metal) that the Marx motors have no trouble at all pulling whatever I can couple up to them, especially on my level layout.  In fact I have to keep the old ZW down to about 15% power to keep everything on the track!.

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Well, I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving Holiday.  Have a great and healthy weekend and enjoy them leftovers!

Don

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Wow RS, that is a beauty[..where did you get, what brand is it?  I wouldn't mind have one of those in my fleet..😃

Hi Ted- It's a Lionel 6-28528 with Command, railsounds, etc. It's from a New Haven freight set # 6-31905. I don't know if it was sold separately.

I have it's sister loco in Delaware and Hudson, so when I saw this in the F/S thread, I jumped.

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Hi Ted- It's a Lionel 6-28528 with Command, railsounds, etc. It's from a New Haven freight set # 6-31905. I don't know if it was sold separately.

I have it's sister loco in Delaware and Hudson, so when I saw this in the F/S thread, I jumped.

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Bob

Thanks Bob for the information.  That sure is a good looking engine'.. I'll search the net to see if I can find one'.. Have a great weekend'.. 😀

I had to polish these with Maguiar's rubbing compound then glaze and Next gen wax. The paint on these MTH engines was a horrible orange peel look. I have done this on all automotive models in the past with Maguiar's plastx and next gen wax thought  i would give it a shot for the Santa Fe "fresh paint" look. 93633DC9-89E6-4BC1-B0FF-1C5567CF2D31

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I had to polish these with Maguire's rubbing compound then glaze and Next gen wax. The paint on these MTH engines a was horrible orange peel look. I have done this on all automotive models in the past with Maguire's plastx and next gen wax though i would give it a shot for the Santa Fe "fresh paint" look. 93633DC9-89E6-4BC1-B0FF-1C5567CF2D31

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Those look gorgeous.

Good evening, a birds eye view of a loaded coal train assembled by the Pennsylvania 0 6 0 switcher.

The loaded coal hoppers just clear the front of the switcher.75E68F62-79BC-476F-BECC-4C5A935616D3

After the coal train clears the switcher crew will move out  onto the line and head for home after a long cold day working at Fritz Coal.

Have a good weekend and stay safe !!!!!

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Hi F.E.F folks.  SLQ32 what an incredible polishing job, those engines look fabulous.  CSAM and Randy - great Santa Fe engines  Leapinlarry... great locos and beautiful train room.  Since it seems to be a Santa Fe Friday, I thought I would add my Santa Fe FT units.  These are the metal lithographed # 21 units by Marx made from 1950- 1954.  These are coupled to his "scale" freights that can be seen in the picture.

Happy Friday everyone, hope you have a great weekend!

Don

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Hi F.E.F folks.  SLQ32 what an incredible polishing job, those engines look fabulous.  CSAM and Randy - great Santa Fe engines  Leapinlarry... great locos and beautiful train room.  Since it seems to be a Santa Fe Friday, I thought I would add my Santa Fe FT units.  These are the metal lithographed # 21 units by Marx made from 1950- 1954.  These are coupled to his "scale" freights that can be seen in the picture.

Happy Friday everyone, hope you have a great weekend!

Don

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Don Thank you. I love that Marx! Beautiful engine!  I never saw anything like that! I didn't know Marx was that old. I thought it was Lionel or American Flyer back then.

Paul, wouldn't that be 3 engines, probably one motorized and 2 dummies, but not necessarily, ie. all 3 could be motorized?

Well, Arnold, if we are going to get legalistic about this, I maintain that any number of engines (powered or dummy), when linked together contiguously - aka “lashed up” (Mea maxima culpa), they form a single entity or engine. I rest my case

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Well, Arnold, if we are going to get legalistic about this, I maintain that any number of engines (powered or dummy), when linked together contiguously - aka “lashed up” (Mea maxima culpa), they form a single entity or engine. I rest my case

I think, A jury of forum members should make a decision  on this case..  Perhaps a new standard will be determined'..🎅🏻

I think, A jury of forum members should make a decision  on this case..  Perhaps a new standard will be determined'..🎅🏻

Paul, wouldn't that be 3 engines, probably one motorized and 2 dummies, but not necessarily, ie. all 3 could be motorized?

As a member of the jury, and the subject of the OP's comment (yes my D&H Sharks), I would say that they are all engines. In the 1:1 world they usually were all powered, or if not developing tractive power, at least providing heat/ lights to coaches.

Your honor, we the jury find the defendant @Apples55 to be a techno-pesant, therefore all charges should be dismissed.

What do you think Arnold? Do I have a future as a lawyer?

@RSJB18 posted:

As a member of the jury, and the subject of the OP's comment (yes my D&H Sharks), I would say that they are all engines. In the 1:1 world they usually were all powered, or if not developing tractive power, at least providing heat/ lights to coaches.

Your honor, we the jury find the defendant @Apples55 to be a techno-pesant, therefore all charges should be dismissed.

What do you think Arnold? Do I have a future as a lawyer?

OBJECTION!!!!!! To quote the late, not so great DA Hamilton Burger, that comment is “Incompetent, irrelevant, and immaterial“. Whereas the respondent is the one responsible for this whole mess to begin with, he has a clear and obvious conflict of interest and never should have been sat on the jury. And as for his future as a lawyer, I would point out that I freely admit to being a techno-peasant, so the jury’s finding of the obvious makes their collective opinion highly suspect 🤣🤣🤣 The defense rests!!!

Good day folks.  I took these two photos about an hour or so and came to post it on this thread, only to see that there hasn't been a post yet today on Front End Friday.  I haven't visited in awhile, so hopefully I didn't miss the memo .

Until then, here are a couple of Miami Metrorail trains by the Vizcaya Station south of Downtown. I took these from the bicycle/pedestrian path (known as the M Path) underneath the elevated tracks.

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Hi FE.F. folks , AMFLEET25124 I agree, I really like this post and hope we can continue.  SLQ32, sorry I apologize I normally get to answer folks sooner than a week later.  Thank you for your comments on my Marx #21.  Yes Marx was around "back then" but no where near as early as Lionel or American Flyer or even Hafner.  Marx started making toy trains about 1934-35.  The #21 is somewhat unique, Marx never produced the large metal lithographed engine in anything but Santa Fe war bonnet livery.  He did produce other F-7's but in plastic bodies later in the post war period.

Today, there has been an incident on the Leonardtown and Savannah.  The operations people are upset but are working hard to accommodate a very important visitor to this south country.  Apparently there was a break down in this fellows normal ride and he desperately needs to get back North.  At the moment he has tied up the normal commuter passenger run, behind a Santa Fe Alco S-2 (leased as SF "excess" to the L&S for commuter service), KLine from about the 1990's  and the main line Atlanta express behind a Lionel Wabash F-3 # 2240 from 1956.  The folks are working with the dispatcher to try and route this VIP as far north as we can get him (that would be Maryland on the L&S). Even those trapped commuters are cheering the engineers efforts to get this fellow moving.   Lets hope that the fellows get this worked out or there are lots of boys and girls that are likely to be disappointed on Christmas eve!!



Lionel F3 and Santa



Happy Friday everyone, have a healthy and happy weekend

Don

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