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Hancock52 posted:
Norton posted:

Will the SP daylight cars have ribbed or smooth sides and if ribbed will some be lettered Southern Pacific Lines?

Pete

You need an answer from the man himself but if based on the same tooling/design as the earlier issue of the scale cars I have several of, they’ll be ribbed and lettered Southern Pacific.

I assumed from the pics, they would be ribbed but SP w/o Lines is a nonstarter. 

My GS4 is as built with SP Lines in small print on tender. This has a long way to go so I can wait to see what develops.

Pete

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dkdkrd posted:

So, Scott...  How come you wouldn't add the 'shorties' to the already announced...but not fully reserved/committed...full-sized ATSF Super Chief and B&O Capitol Limited?? 

It really stifles some of us...me... with strong interest in one or both of those announced trains and marginal layout dimensions to easily accommodate the 21" cars to think that we'd have to wait for their turn at a second round....if ever....to have a more appropriate length for our layouts.

If the Super and Capitol announcements are to measure the threshold interest, and the data packages for the design of both are within reach, why not offer the shortened versions too?  Start clean, start even?  

The sets that would be understandably 'too late' for shorter versions are the ones under design/tooling/construction contracts...the horses being out of the starting gate, so to speak.

Just curious....not critical.  Sometimes our mortality-perspective kicks in and we wonder if the preferences will ever occur in our own lifetime.  

BTW...I've reserved both in their present full scale configuration.  But, I'd gladly wring my hands over another level of choice!

And, Scott.....You ARE the man!  You and your team....no competition!

KD

I agree about the Super Chief.  I want the set in 18 but not MTH.  I prefer shorter over longer super Chief.  Not necessarily a money thing. 

Boy this is a hot / well liked topic. Deservedly so. I believe the “shorties” are going to be a nice success for Scott. It should help him exceed his minimum numbers to go forward - and IMHO then some. 

Back in the day of Broadway and Daylight first runs, the offerings were parsed out in smaller groupings. Broadway came as 3 four car subsets (don’t remember any extras as 1 subset was sleepers, 2nd was coaches - if I remember correctly) and Daylight 2 five car sets (1 unarticulated, 1 articulated) plus extras. These smaller groupings allowed me entry into really nice quality cars. I chose what would be core groupings - of course those with observation car. I was able to add an articulated 2 car for the Daylight. Regrettably the next big groupings disappeared before I could catch them. 

The new scale offerings now are fixed at eight.  The Daylight and 20th extras are great but Broadway not. Prototypical or not, more sleeper options would be nice for Broadway !!!

Scott.  Please color match with 1st run colors.  There are some of us that will want to add to what we have from first runs !!!!  Especially the Daylights.  They are what I see as having a bit muted look - not a stark bright.

Scott. Be kind with packaging for those going the route of 6 car sets.  Those boxes for the 5 car sets are extremely unwieldy.  I’m sure something better can be worked out  

 

Schedule couldn't be earlier than mid next year. And the delivery gets pushed out further if there aren't enough reservations. We do offer layaway payments for direct customers, so if it comes in at the wrong time for someone finances, they can take a few more months to pay them off.

Richie C. posted:

I think it's a great idea and would only enhance your reputation as one of the premier builders of finely detailed model railroad stock but, if you're going to take the plunge, I would consider opening the market up to an even larger pool of potential buyers in the O36/O42  layout range and make them in either 15" or 16" size.

Unfortunately, 18" is still too large for those of us who would love to be able to run scale equipment but simply don't have the available space for a large layout and who would still like to own show-quality pieces.

18" is not much different than 15-16" postwar style cars. 

I can't see GGD diving into the flooded 15-16" passenger car market. There's a Darth of 18" streamliners at the moment. Heavyweight sets are pretty entrenched with Lionel and MTH along with some leftover K-Line.

It would be nice if GGD redid the PRR P54 sets along with the MP54' as well. They are prototypically short and with serve both the scale market along with the Traditional Market that loves scale equipment!

 

prrhorseshoecurve posted:
Richie C. posted:

I think it's a great idea and would only enhance your reputation as one of the premier builders of finely detailed model railroad stock but, if you're going to take the plunge, I would consider opening the market up to an even larger pool of potential buyers in the O36/O42  layout range and make them in either 15" or 16" size.

Unfortunately, 18" is still too large for those of us who would love to be able to run scale equipment but simply don't have the available space for a large layout and who would still like to own show-quality pieces.

18" is not much different than 15-16" postwar style cars. 

I can't see GGD diving into the flooded 15-16" passenger car market. There's a Darth of 18" streamliners at the moment. Heavyweight sets are pretty entrenched with Lionel and MTH along with some leftover K-Line.

It would be nice if GGD redid the PRR P54 sets along with the MP54' as well. They are prototypically short and with serve both the scale market along with the Traditional Market that loves scale equipment!

 

The 18" cars I have from MTH and Lionel do 036 just fine. These might be able to. 

VintageClassics posted:
redjimmy1955 posted:

My "want" would be CB&Q California Zephr 18 inch cars....

I second that request. I'd purchase the Cal Zephyr in a heartbeat if, and when, it's offered. 

I third this. Scott, please do it! 

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Any update on the reservations for the 0-42 cars?

Scott, I also had an idea that popped into my head and thought I should share it with you: What if you made your very popular Budd Slumber coaches in 0-42? I would definitely order several since the competitors only produce "cookie cutter" cars. Perhaps a poll/OGR post to test the waters? Just my two cents.

Bryce

I'm with Larry Neal...Southeast.

I must confess that the Seaboard Silver Meteor looked as good running behind the elegant E units as they did when the Pennsylvania forwarded the train to/from New York City with the legendary GG1.  Oh yes, don't forget to add RF&P to the list as well!

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@Charlie posted:

I actually forgot about the shorter cars. Thanks for reposting this. I suspect there are more than a few people who either forgot or did not know about this possible option.

Charlie

Charlie,

I was wondering about these for awhile but I didn't realize it has been so long since the GGD 0-42 announcement.

Hopefully this "bump" can get more people interested in the offered sets and possibly get Scott to make 0-42 Budd Slumber coaches.

Bryce

Folks,

The 3 rerun Aluminum trains are a go. Including the 042 style shorter cars.

In order of reservations:

1948 20th Century

SP Daylight + 3/4 Dome to be announced. Ooops I just announced it.

1948 Broadway Ltd.

Should be done with all 3 + Hiawatha Short 2nd Run by the end of 2021.

The C&O L1 Hudson and Chessie Cars should also be in this time period.

Scott

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@sdmann posted:

Folks,

The 3 rerun Aluminum trains are a go. Including the 042 style shorter cars.

In order of reservations:

1948 20th Century

SP Daylight + 3/4 Dome to be announced. Ooops I just announced it.

1948 Broadway Ltd.

Should be done with all 3 + Hiawatha Short 2nd Run by the end of 2021.

The C&O L1 Hudson and Chessie Cars should also be in this time period.

Scott

Scott
How about a Broadway Sleeper “Extra” 4 pack - one each of those listed ?  I ask as I have a Broadway run 1 “A” set of “core” consist/cars - no sleepers.  I’d love to add to my gorgeous run 1 consist. A lone 4-4-2 just doesn’t cut it !!!!!
ANYONE else out there for this ??????  Email Scott !!!!!

oh !!!! And THANKS for adding the SP 3/4 Dome !!!! Several versions possible too !!!!!!

more - hope these three ARE SPREAD OUT - not all at once.  Help us here !!!!

Cheers 🤗
TrainBub

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Scott, any chance of a New Haven train such as the Merchants Limited. The New Haven may not have the swagger of say the Super Chief or 20th Century Limited. But there is no shortage of New Haven O gauge Passenger power in both Electric and Steam that have been produced over the years. Weaver and Atlas have had a few runs of the Bradley cars. The K-Line cars demand high prices. I’m sure a unique correct New Haven consist would be a seller. I purchased 2 of your PA’s. I need something for them to pull.

@rdj92807 posted:

Scott, will the new SP cars match the paint on the prior original version?

I wondered about that too and although I haven’t asked Scott, in my experience he’s been very careful about SP colors in a way that the major 3rail suppliers simply haven’t been. I’d expect the new cars to be a good match as well as prototypical. It matters to me as I have some cars from the original run that I want to match.

BTW, I notice that every time Scott makes an announcement of a new offering, there’s literally a flood of other different product requests/suggestions. Nothing wrong with that as it reflects a healthy level of enthusiasm BUT what about him adding an SP 3/4 length dome car to this run, as announced above? That’s a truly distinctive SP-built prototype that’s never been made, as far as I know, by either Lionel or MTH - or by anybody else bar once ages ago. I’m definitely on board for that car.

There’s a good write up on these cars, inside and out, here: https://streamlinermemories.info/?p=1392

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@Hancock52 posted:

I wondered about that too and although I haven’t asked Scott, in my experience he’s been very careful about SP colors in a way that the major 3rail suppliers simply haven’t been. I’d expect the new cars to be a good match as well as prototypical. It matters to me as I have some cars from the original run that I want to match.

BTW, I notice that every time Scott makes an announcement of a new offering, there’s literally a flood of other different product requests/suggestions. Nothing wrong with that as it reflects a healthy level of enthusiasm BUT what about him adding an SP 3/4 length dome car to this run, as announced above? That’s a truly distinctive SP-built prototype that’s never been made, as far as I know, by either Lionel or MTH - or by anybody else bar once ages ago. I’m definitely on board for that car.

There’s a good write up on these cars, inside and out, here: https://streamlinermemories.info/?p=1392

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This SP dome will be a Very Nice option. I think Scott will probably offer at least the three SP versions - Daylight, UP yellow, and Silver with a red stripe, and perhaps a fourth - an Amtrak version (I haven’t looked for picture). There are two other recent rebirths- KCS/Panama RR and CP that are possible if Scott gets requests.
If they are done in brass like The Milwaukee Road ones - they will be expensive.  
Color matches - especially after years gone by are Always tough. I’m sure it’ll be really close. I sweat this too as I have Daylight run 1 regular 5 car set and a 2 car articulated that I want to add to with the new 3 car articulated diner.

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