So, Scott...  How come you wouldn't add the 'shorties' to the already announced...but not fully reserved/committed...full-sized ATSF Super Chief and B&O Capitol Limited?? 

It really stifles some of us...me... with strong interest in one or both of those announced trains and marginal layout dimensions to easily accommodate the 21" cars to think that we'd have to wait for their turn at a second round....if ever....to have a more appropriate length for our layouts.

If the Super and Capitol announcements are to measure the threshold interest, and the data packages for the design of both are within reach, why not offer the shortened versions too?  Start clean, start even?  

The sets that would be understandably 'too late' for shorter versions are the ones under design/tooling/construction contracts...the horses being out of the starting gate, so to speak.

Just curious....not critical.  Sometimes our mortality-perspective kicks in and we wonder if the preferences will ever occur in our own lifetime.  

BTW...I've reserved both in their present full scale configuration.  But, I'd gladly wring my hands over another level of choice!

And, Scott.....You ARE the man!  You and your team....no competition!

KD

Norton posted:

Will the SP daylight cars have ribbed or smooth sides and if ribbed will some be lettered Southern Pacific Lines?

Pete

You need an answer from the man himself but if based on the same tooling/design as the earlier issue of the scale cars I have several of, they’ll be ribbed and lettered Southern Pacific.

Hancock52 posted:
Norton posted:

Will the SP daylight cars have ribbed or smooth sides and if ribbed will some be lettered Southern Pacific Lines?

Pete

You need an answer from the man himself but if based on the same tooling/design as the earlier issue of the scale cars I have several of, they’ll be ribbed and lettered Southern Pacific.

I assumed from the pics, they would be ribbed but SP w/o Lines is a nonstarter. 

My GS4 is as built with SP Lines in small print on tender. This has a long way to go so I can wait to see what develops.

Pete

dkdkrd posted:

So, Scott...  How come you wouldn't add the 'shorties' to the already announced...but not fully reserved/committed...full-sized ATSF Super Chief and B&O Capitol Limited?? 

It really stifles some of us...me... with strong interest in one or both of those announced trains and marginal layout dimensions to easily accommodate the 21" cars to think that we'd have to wait for their turn at a second round....if ever....to have a more appropriate length for our layouts.

If the Super and Capitol announcements are to measure the threshold interest, and the data packages for the design of both are within reach, why not offer the shortened versions too?  Start clean, start even?  

The sets that would be understandably 'too late' for shorter versions are the ones under design/tooling/construction contracts...the horses being out of the starting gate, so to speak.

Just curious....not critical.  Sometimes our mortality-perspective kicks in and we wonder if the preferences will ever occur in our own lifetime.  

BTW...I've reserved both in their present full scale configuration.  But, I'd gladly wring my hands over another level of choice!

And, Scott.....You ARE the man!  You and your team....no competition!

KD

I agree about the Super Chief.  I want the set in 18 but not MTH.  I prefer shorter over longer super Chief.  Not necessarily a money thing. 

Bryant

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sdmann posted:

I don't see why we can't do a few of these SP Lines. We'll keep that option open.

Whatever version anyone want, Scotts Daylights are really beautiful.  Here is a couple of pix with some cars from years ago in what now will be run #1 

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Boy this is a hot / well liked topic. Deservedly so. I believe the “shorties” are going to be a nice success for Scott. It should help him exceed his minimum numbers to go forward - and IMHO then some. 

Back in the day of Broadway and Daylight first runs, the offerings were parsed out in smaller groupings. Broadway came as 3 four car subsets (don’t remember any extras as 1 subset was sleepers, 2nd was coaches - if I remember correctly) and Daylight 2 five car sets (1 unarticulated, 1 articulated) plus extras. These smaller groupings allowed me entry into really nice quality cars. I chose what would be core groupings - of course those with observation car. I was able to add an articulated 2 car for the Daylight. Regrettably the next big groupings disappeared before I could catch them. 

The new scale offerings now are fixed at eight.  The Daylight and 20th extras are great but Broadway not. Prototypical or not, more sleeper options would be nice for Broadway !!!

Scott.  Please color match with 1st run colors.  There are some of us that will want to add to what we have from first runs !!!!  Especially the Daylights.  They are what I see as having a bit muted look - not a stark bright.

Scott. Be kind with packaging for those going the route of 6 car sets.  Those boxes for the 5 car sets are extremely unwieldy.  I’m sure something better can be worked out  

 

Richie C. posted:

I think it's a great idea and would only enhance your reputation as one of the premier builders of finely detailed model railroad stock but, if you're going to take the plunge, I would consider opening the market up to an even larger pool of potential buyers in the O36/O42  layout range and make them in either 15" or 16" size.

Unfortunately, 18" is still too large for those of us who would love to be able to run scale equipment but simply don't have the available space for a large layout and who would still like to own show-quality pieces.

18" is not much different than 15-16" postwar style cars. 

I can't see GGD diving into the flooded 15-16" passenger car market. There's a Darth of 18" streamliners at the moment. Heavyweight sets are pretty entrenched with Lionel and MTH along with some leftover K-Line.

It would be nice if GGD redid the PRR P54 sets along with the MP54' as well. They are prototypically short and with serve both the scale market along with the Traditional Market that loves scale equipment!

 

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prrhorseshoecurve posted:
Richie C. posted:

I think it's a great idea and would only enhance your reputation as one of the premier builders of finely detailed model railroad stock but, if you're going to take the plunge, I would consider opening the market up to an even larger pool of potential buyers in the O36/O42  layout range and make them in either 15" or 16" size.

Unfortunately, 18" is still too large for those of us who would love to be able to run scale equipment but simply don't have the available space for a large layout and who would still like to own show-quality pieces.

18" is not much different than 15-16" postwar style cars. 

I can't see GGD diving into the flooded 15-16" passenger car market. There's a Darth of 18" streamliners at the moment. Heavyweight sets are pretty entrenched with Lionel and MTH along with some leftover K-Line.

It would be nice if GGD redid the PRR P54 sets along with the MP54' as well. They are prototypically short and with serve both the scale market along with the Traditional Market that loves scale equipment!

 

The 18" cars I have from MTH and Lionel do 036 just fine. These might be able to. 

VintageClassics posted:
redjimmy1955 posted:

My "want" would be CB&Q California Zephr 18 inch cars....

I second that request. I'd purchase the Cal Zephyr in a heartbeat if, and when, it's offered. 

I third this. Scott, please do it! 

Billsrr posted:

What about the Cal Zepher

Seams like there is alot of Support for a California Zephyr Bill, and Gang ... I've reserved both the 20th Century and the Broadway Limited and will GLADLY ADD a Cal Zephyr, as I'm sure you all would as well, should one be offered

 

David

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