Glen Snyder out of Product until Summer 2023 - Alternatives?

@3rail...honestly, I use 1×4's and I went though the phase of routing the grooves but...

I stopped with the grooves on my last move and just put both loco's and rolling stock on the boards (sans grooves) and have suffered neither a disaster nor accident. They basically stay put...and I'm located in one of the most earthquake prevalent zones in the world.

Try it and see... your experience may differ.

John

Wow!  I just picked up 22 pieces at York!  Guess I got lucky.  I had ordered them just a month ago.

@Frank Mulligan posted:

Wow!  I just picked up 22 pieces at York!  Guess I got lucky.  I had ordered them just a month ago.

Yep Frank, you were one of the lucky ones. I talked to her two weeks before the show and they were sold out at that point. I offered her a premium to take 6 from your order…..

😉😉😉😉😉

Donald

@John Meyncke posted:

@3rail...honestly, I use 1×4's and I went though the phase of routing the grooves but...

I stopped with the grooves on my last move and just put both loco's and rolling stock on the boards (sans grooves) and have suffered neither a disaster nor accident.

Agree with this.  The grooves are meaningless in my experience especially with regard to engines.  They don't want to roll anyway.  I stopped making grooves in my 1x4 shelves.

If I were them I'd be investing the $2500-$4000 on a new extrusion die and find a new supplier. Better to spend a little to keep the customer base then let it go to the competitor.

Harry Bush from Derry PA. builds kitchens and baths. He made the shelves for our store. They aren't metal but they are oak.

She had same issue a year ago for STD Gauge size. Her people that make it for cannot get the aluminum. I am not sure why she does not increase her orders?

Joe Gozzo

@jim sutter posted:

Harry Bush from Derry PA. builds kitchens and baths. He made the shelves for our store. They aren't metal but they are oak.

Hi Jim! Hope you can give your Dogs a bone now! Lol

Joe Gozzo

Joe, unfortunately, we no longer have any dogs.

As of last weekend, my GS shelves are now full, and I intended to place an order for a few more this week. I don't need many shelves, but 2023 is a long time to wait.  I didn't realize aluminum was scarce. Who is gobbling it up:
* The auto industry?
* The aerospace industry?
* The saucepan industry?
* The aluminum foil industry?

The "shortage" can't be blamed on the war in Ukraine or climate change.

Mike M.   LCCA 12394

Look at Cabin Fever Auction site that ends Wedneday, lot 126.

@jim sutter posted:

Joe, unfortunately, we no longer have any dogs.

Sorry Jim

Don't know if this is a help, but some years ago I discovered that baseboard molding can easily be used for train shelves. I found that (at least the molding I used) if you turn the molding upside down, the indentation on the bottom is the perfect width for the wheel flanges on O-Gauge trains. Quite a coincidence! The trains fit perfectly and securely into indentation on the back side of the molding. I mounted the molding "shelves" on wall brackets (along the lines of the picture below - obviously using smaller brackets). I painted mine an off-white at the time to match the wall, but you can get these pre-colored now, too. It worked very well. The outer edge of the moldings is available in many different styles, of course, so the choice is yours as to what you like.

@Mike H Mottler posted:

As of last weekend, my GS shelves are now full, and I intended to place an order for a few more this week. I don't need many shelves, but 2023 is a long time to wait.  I didn't realize aluminum was scarce. Who is gobbling it up:
* The auto industry?
* The aerospace industry?
* The saucepan industry?
* The aluminum foil industry?

The "shortage" can't be blamed on the war in Ukraine or climate change.

Mike M.   LCCA 12394

I could summarize the global problem, but others have done it so much better.

Type in "Aluminum Shortage" into your search engine.  Select an article or two.  For the most part they're saying the same things are at play.

However, another thing they all seem to agree on...It ain't gonna get any better in the near future!

Yepper.  Lotsa 'new norms' everywhere.  Oh goody.

So, what's more important?: Containers for your cold beer, your craft brews?  Or shelves for choo-choo's??  I mean, if you're a metals broker, who gets the 'grease' first?  You know...

Hmmmmm.

But, you're right in a couple respects:  I didn't read any blame-game re Ukraine or climate.

I dunno.  Wood sounds good.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....

I used 1 x 4 pine, painted it industrial grey enamel, picked up a bunch of used 027 straight track (Cheap under tables at train shows) which I painted rattle can flat black, screwed to the wood, and fastened the wood to the wall with 3" L brackets. Not fancy but works for me.

@Mike H Mottler posted:

As of last weekend, my GS shelves are now full, and I intended to place an order for a few more this week. I don't need many shelves, but 2023 is a long time to wait.  I didn't realize aluminum was scarce. Who is gobbling it up:
* The auto industry?
* The aerospace industry?
* The saucepan industry?
* The aluminum foil industry?

The "shortage" can't be blamed on the war in Ukraine or climate change.

Mike M.   LCCA 12394

Well, Im doing my part in collecting and recycling cans and foil via my local scrap yard.

@Z-man posted:

Look at Cabin Fever Auction site that ends Wedneday, lot 126.

Is that Glenn Snyder shelving in the auction? I can't tell from the photo.

@Peter Frenzel 010119 posted:

Is that Glenn Snyder shelving in the auction? I can't tell from the photo.

From what I can tell, no it is not. There is some aluminum shelving out there that has a flat base with a lip. It appears to be just that. I do not see the 3 raised lugs that the GS shelves have.

Donald

I think this is a sign from above for me that maybe, just maybe I have enough trains.  I never thought I would say that but....  

I bought some of their product last year and it's great but I am running out of actual walls to hang them on.

A good problem to have I guess.