I was checking my banking this am and surprise, I found a significant charge from ggd.  I have some cars on order but I do not know if that is what the charge is.  my cars are the heavyweights supposedly due on may 30th.  I called and received the recording.  does anyone else know what is going on before I persist  with ggd?

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Me too.   I have changed my shipping address with Sunset 3rd Rail and Golden Gate Depot, to the UPS Store nearest to my home, as signature is always required and I am too busy to just stay home all day.  The UPS Store receives the package and holds it for me to drop by and sign for it at my convenience.

I ordered a Santa Fe dining car as well as a Texas & Pacific baggage car.  A T&P or Missouri Pacific Eagle scheme heavyweight baggage car was often in the consist of No. 23, the Grand Canyon and/or No.7, the Fast Mail and Express during my younger years.

Tom

 

Superintendent, High Plains Division (O Gauge) 

The Panhandle & Santa Fe Railway Co.

Lone Star Hi-Railers

Santa Fe, All the Way

I too have a charge on my card, and like others I only have the heavyweights currently ordered with them, so that's what they must be. I believe Scott mentioned in an email to expect the cars after June 14th, as they were delayed slightly from the original date. No shipping notification yet....

 

Stephen

Number 90 posted:

Me too.   I have changed my shipping address with Sunset 3rd Rail and Golden Gate Depot, to the UPS Store nearest to my home, as signature is always required and I am too busy to just stay home all day.  The UPS Store receives the package and holds it for me to drop by and sign for it at my convenience.

Good idea.  I have very few items delivered that require a signature and I don't like staying home for them either.  

I've worked with another dealer that lets me know when the item is ready to ship and we coordinate a shipping date.  I've never liked it when the dealer sends it out then tells you its coming.  Maybe they think it will help keep last minute cancellations from happening.

Ron

 

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On May 29th Scott emailed invoices to all those who ordered HW cars.  This usually happens when Scott gets an arrival date for the containers from the shipper.  Add a week to ten days to that date to clear customs and be delivered to 3rdRail's warehouse. You need to then add a day or two to unload and sort the boxes before Scott can start packing and shipping.  All the cars have been spoken for so he has a lot to do.

My CC was charged on the 24th, but I haven't received by shipping notice.  I expect I'll receive the cars after the 4th.  I'm glad Scott did this rerun of RPOs and BMs for my express mail train.

Jan

Number 90 posted:

I ordered a Santa Fe dining car as well as a Texas & Pacific baggage car.  A T&P or Missouri Pacific Eagle scheme heavyweight baggage car was often in the consist of No. 23, the Grand Canyon and/or No.7, the Fast Mail and Express during my younger years.

Tom,  I think the T&P heavyweight baggage car is Pullman Green with gold/yellow graphics.

John in Lansing, ILL

Jan posted:

On May 29th Scott emailed invoices to all those who ordered HW cars.  This usually happens when Scott gets an arrival date for the containers from the shipper.  Add a week to ten days to that date to clear customs and be delivered to 3rdRail's warehouse. You need to then add a day or two to unload and sort the boxes before Scott can start packing and shipping.  All the cars have been spoken for so he has a lot to do.

My CC was charged on the 24th, but I haven't received by shipping notice.  I expect I'll receive the cars after the 4th.  I'm glad Scott did this rerun of RPOs and BMs for my express mail train.

Jan

jan,

I never received an invoice.  the reason I instituted this particular subject is the first thing I found about this shipment was a surprise posting to my credit card. I am happy that the shipment arrived, but finding out via a credit card charge is discerning.

mikeg

Nice! I did the payment plan with USPS money orders. My E6 and the Heavyweights should be arriving shortly or as I stated to them if they can't ship by 7/1/19 to hold shipping til 7/25/19.

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Looking forward to a second scale heavyweight set. I just wish GGD did the heavyweight in the PRR F.O.M. scheme to match my sleeping car done by them last year. Oh well maybe next time.

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I'm somewhat surprised that your own review of your charge account revealed the GGD charge.  Based on our own experience in this sort of situation, we were notified in a different manner...

We have Visa/US Bank.  For the last two purchases of such locomotives....Lionel's ATSF hybrid 2-8-2 and 3rd Rail's PA's, for which the card was put on record at the time of order...we received immediate and aggressive phone calls and e-mails from VISA notifying us of these sudden charges, requesting our response.  We replied per their instructions to the affirmative, of course.

I'm still not sure what the 'trigger' was for this courtesy....Dollar amount?  Outside our zip code without prior travel notification?  Both?  Whatever......but we surely appreciated the attentiveness and multiple efforts to reach us for a response!  We also have Lifeloc, but they've focused their attention more on purchases for which credit searches are being conducted.

Either way, it's really very comforting to know that someone "has our 6".  Might be something to check into with one's credit card service(s)?

KD

Mike,

That's interesting. I was told by their sales people that they didn't keep CC numbers.  So, I send the CC data back with each invoice.

I used to get asked about a purchase until the CC company developed a history of usage.  I lead a really dull life so I never do anything unusual.

Jan

rattler21 posted:
Number 90 posted:

I ordered a Santa Fe dining car as well as a Texas & Pacific baggage car.  A T&P or Missouri Pacific Eagle scheme heavyweight baggage car was often in the consist of No. 23, the Grand Canyon and/or No.7, the Fast Mail and Express during my younger years.

Tom,  I think the T&P heavyweight baggage car is Pullman Green with gold/yellow graphics.

John in Lansing, ILL

If so, the joke is on me.  Oh, well.  I ordered it based on the illustration on the GGD web page, but, whatever color it is painted, I'm keeping it and running it.

Tom

 

Superintendent, High Plains Division (O Gauge) 

The Panhandle & Santa Fe Railway Co.

Lone Star Hi-Railers

Santa Fe, All the Way

HI Guys, Just FYI,

You are very fortunate that your UPS dealer will sign for your trains.  Mine will not even tho I ship all UPS thru him.  He wants a signage fee.  My UPS delivery person and I are close and we work together to solve minor problems.

Tommy Thompson

 

Jan posted:

On May 29th Scott emailed invoices to all those who ordered HW cars. 

Huh, not that it matters, but I received an invoice and sent in my credit card information way back in December. I didn't receive a subsequent invoice in May. Just an interesting observation.

Stephen

not that it matters now. I originally posted this topic, because I was surprised, angry to have an accidental find of a ggd charge to my credit card.  I was checking on line, getting ready to pay bills.  I in all honesty cannot accurately state that I did or did not provide a card for this specific purchase.  I never received an email regarding impending shipping etc. 

I have now received a notification that the "package" will arrive next Tuesday.  plan on being home all day, not likely since I already have plans for part of the day and I will keep them.  it is disconcerting since I have been a regular for all prr at ggd for years, but who knows.  

mikeg

I got notice last night in an email from Scott M that the last of the paid GGD heavyweight cars are being shipped out today.  I look forward in receiving these cars so I will have two PRR heavyweight sets and an extra sleeper painted as F.O.M. For coaches as many PRR fans attest in previous postings here will be the P70's from the turn of the century.

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PRRTrainguy posted:

I have never ever seen a baggage or rpo car this clean.  they are beautiful.

Mike, 

That is why many consider GGD the best bang for the buck.  About twenty-five years ago, Jerry Williams saw the market for scale size heavyweight cars.  He offered five car sets consisting of one baggage car, one observation car and three passenger cars.  His five car package set the standard for the industry.  Modelers asked the major manufacturers to offer just the baggage car, but those suggestions fell on deaf ears.  GGD stepped forward, took the risk and we may now have has as many heavyweight baggage cars as we can afford.

Remember the old Hungarian saying, "No such thing as too many heavyweight baggage cars."  That's not really an old Hungarian saying, I made it up.

John Mateyko in Lansing, ILL

I just got in my two ordered cars, Rio Grande and Burlington heavyweight RPO's!  If Scott did the pre-WWll  Rio Grande "Exposition Flyer" cars, l'd order the whole train. (not holdin' my breath) l have forgotten whether Rock Island or Mopac were offered?

??Another one of THOSE!!??  What you want to sell is not what I want to buy!

Well both cars arrived this afternoon, and were added to No.64, the West Texas Express.  The T&P baggage* was picked up at Sweetwater, and the heavyweight diner was switched into the train at Brownwood, along with a pair of sleepers full of Boy Scouts en route from San Angelo to Las Vegas, New Mexico and Philmont Scout Ranch.  Normally, No.64 consists of head end cars and one or two chair cars, but Santa Fe does it right. The Scouts have a custom Fred Harvey menu for this dining car, featuring modestly-priced meals that are nourishing, tasty and simple, and including a complimentary slice of pie with dinner.  The train did a little head-end work and now departs Caprock, Texas, with Wallace White in the Engineer seat, griping to the Fireman, Homer Smith, about having one geep for a 6-car train.  He’ll get the job done.  Wallace will let ‘er run when he gets the train up onto the flat territory.

*  The joke is on me, RATTLER21, and you are correct . . . the T&P car is green.  I will have to be more careful in the future.  GGD did a nice job of accurately painting the two cars different greens.  The Santa Fe Coach Green diner is excellent!  Since my layout is set in 1953, I would think that T&P might still have had one green baggage car in that year.  I'll check my T&P book and see if I can find one that really was still green then.  But the car is in service and will stay in service.  We just pick 'em up off the T&P interchange at Sweetwater, and we don't care what color the car is, as long as it is equipped for passenger service.

Tom

 

Superintendent, High Plains Division (O Gauge) 

The Panhandle & Santa Fe Railway Co.

Lone Star Hi-Railers

Santa Fe, All the Way

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Lndependence, Independence...  I was surprised when I saw that too. They all went back to the factory the next day except the one you got (only 15 were made). If you want an exchange we will have them when I return July 25th. If you want to keep a one of a kind Ooops, that's ok too.  Let's hear it for Lndependence.  

I showed a picture of this to my Korean production manager who inspected these. He Replied, "So which is correct, "L" or "I"? I guess I shouldn't expect them to know so much about the English language... But Geez, isn't that an important word to know?

Scott 

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Lndependence, Independence...  I was surprised when I saw that too. They all went back to the factory the next day except the one you got (only 15 were made). If you want an exchange we will have them when I return July 25th. If you want to keep a one of a kind Ooops, that's ok too.  Let's hear it for Lndependence.  

I showed a picture of this to my Korean production manager who inspected these. He Replied, "So which is correct, "L" or "I"? I guess I shouldn't expect them to know so much about the English language... But Geez, isn't that an important word to know?

Scott 

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I only hope the Mopac E 6 versions  are perfect with all the work that was done. LOL

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Lndependence, Independence...   Let's hear it for Lndependence.  

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sdmann posted:

Lndependence, Independence...  I was surprised when I saw that too. They all went back to the factory the next day except the one you got (only 15 were made). If you want an exchange we will have them when I return July 25th. If you want to keep a one of a kind Ooops, that's ok too.  Let's hear it for Lndependence.  

I showed a picture of this to my Korean production manager who inspected these. He Replied, "So which is correct, "L" or "I"? I guess I shouldn't expect them to know so much about the English language... But Geez, isn't that an important word to know?

Scott 

Let's just say it's French and it originally ran on the Orient Express.

I've received my NH Green diner and observation, they look great. I do have a question for the group... previous GGD NH cars had white lettering, these have gold. Does anyone know which years NH used gold, which years white?

Jan

rattler21 posted:
PRRTrainguy posted:

I have never ever seen a baggage or rpo car this clean.  they are beautiful.

Mike, 

That is why many consider GGD the best bang for the buck.  About twenty-five years ago, Jerry Williams saw the market for scale size heavyweight cars.  He offered five car sets consisting of one baggage car, one observation car and three passenger cars.  His five car package set the standard for the industry.  Modelers asked the major manufacturers to offer just the baggage car, but those suggestions fell on deaf ears.  GGD stepped forward, took the risk and we may now have has as many heavyweight baggage cars as we can afford.

Remember the old Hungarian saying, "No such thing as too many heavyweight baggage cars."  That's not really an old Hungarian saying, I made it up.

John Mateyko in Lansing, ILL

That saying is very similar to one I made up:

"You can never be too rich, too thin, or have too many PRR cabin cars."

I mean, that's so obviously true it hardly bears saying.  

George

TCA, NMRA, PRRT&HS Modeling the PRR Panhandle Division between 1948-1957.

My two PRR RPOs and one baggage arrived today.   Now I can sell my Weaver RPOs.

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Picture shows my Golden Gate Depot New Haven Railroad heavyweight observation car Flying Cloud received today July 9, 2019. I’m not sure the rear observation platform of my car is assembled correctly. The rear wall of the car is recessed about one inch ahead of the rear edges of the car sidewalls. It seems to me that the rear wall should be flush with the ends of the rear sidewalls. Could the rear wall have been left off my car or mis-positioned? Would like to see your photographs of the rear platform of this car.

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I looked at my NH reference books.  There are only side views of the Flying Cloud and her sister Flying Fish.  The text, however, indicates that these cars had a very short rear platform that was only for show.  They did not have a large recessed platform as shown in the photo.  Some other NH modeler will most likely provide more information.  

It appears to me that Golden Gate used a generic Pullman design with a recessed platform to represent all of these cars.  The only difference being the paint scheme for each railroad.  

NH Joe

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