I don't know about you, but on the SF F3 that's allot of red!! Time to tone it down if nothing else.
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Cab interiors were usually either light gray or a very pale green.
Rusty
@Rusty Traque posted:Cab interiors were usually either light gray or a very pale green.
Rusty
Having never painted any part of any train I own, is there a specific brand that works better for these applications or just run down to Home Depot??
Have done some interior work, most detailed was the Sharknose 3D printed cab interior.
@John Sethian took this idea and ran with it...
Thanks!
- Mario.
@Jeff T posted:Having never painted any part of any train I own, is there a specific brand that works better for these applications or just run down to Home Depot??
I always use paints designed for the modelling communities (Floquil, Accu-flex) with an airbrush, but any plastic-compatible paint should work.
Rusty
Yes, that's a lot of red!
To help you pick a new interior color here's some cab photos of a Santa Fe FP-45, passenger locomotive #108. I took these early last year while visiting the Southern California Railway Museum. Choose a flat paint for your interior, don't use a glossy finish.
Also, this Santa Fe locomotive has the same exterior Warbonnet paint scheme as your F3 model
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Most sources I’ve seen say that the ATSF used a gray interior color on the F3s... right @marker?
For what it's worth, EMD offered a choice of two "standard", i.e. no extra charge, interior colors: 1) Suede Gray, or 2) Jade Green. Both colors were derived from what steam locomotive cab interiors were painted, back in the 1930s.
if you can put together dimensions ( in decimal) I'd be happy to 3D print it for you.
I would start with an overall cab dimension and add in and locate components.
You could also add dimensions on nicely detailed photo.
I'll do the 3D modeling. I'll make it in Rhino6, my 3D modeling program, for you to review before I print.
Basically the interiors are just a series of rectangles, cubes and cylinders, some with handles, except the chairs which are real easy to model.
LET ME KNOW.
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Jeff, what I'm planning is building a compete interior in a Dummy A unit. That way there is plenty of room. Don
With this being my 1st attempt I was looking at something very basic and trying to eliminate the red! Probably spraying the interior gray and adding a little color to the chairs and instruments.
@scale rail posted:
That pic tugged at me. SO miss the railroading of yesterday. I have so many memories from the years of running and riding/working off (before I was an Engineer) 1st gen Geeps.
Andre
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@scale rail posted:
I don't remember PSC selling the Barrel Controller in their catalog
Santa Fe used suede grey for the cab interior of all F-units, both freight and passenger. Wooden whistle cord pull handles were red.
In 1969-70, they dabbled in "men's room green" on F45, SD45, and U36C units delivered new, but they were repainted grey when the cab needed fresh paint. A few units thereafter were repainted with green interiors over the years, but it was never the standard. F-units stayed grey inside the cab.
Santa Fe GP7, GP9, and RSD5 units, plus the switchers were delivered and maintained with dark green cab interiors, same as used on steam. When they were repainted out of zebra stripes, the cab walls were painted grey. SD24, RSD15, GP30, GP20, and GP35 units were grey, right from EMD, as were later EMD and GE units with steel cab walls. With the advent of plastic walls and soft ceilings, the cab colors changed on those units, to tan and school bus dashboard brown.
The museum FP45 with green interior might match the EMD spec. I worked aboard them when they were less than 3 years old, and I cannot remember for sure what the original color was, but I can say that they had grey interiors for most of their service life.
It has been a while since this thread was active.
I just purchased a new to me Scale Lionel Santa Fe f3 set #16. When looking at many of the newer models, these f units still look pretty nice. After seeing in person, the cab is ridiculous on these. I happen to come across this thread and decided to make changes.
Making things worse, is the number 16 F3’s have the cab lights and number boards way to bright making the red cab thing even worse.
I rewired the number boards and cab lights to be in series so they would dim down and reduce the heat ( I have heard of the number boards melting on this model with extended use). I realize the cab light should probably be off, but I still like them on to see inside.
I did a simple repaint job to take the interior from red to grey. I used a rattle can instead of an airbrush, so the paint is too much in areas around the controls. Even with the sub par paint job, I think this an huge improvement.
The cool white LEDs for the headlight were also really bothering me. I replaced them all with warm white ones. Comparisons below between the power unit which I updated and the dummy unit which is original. I thought posting this might inspire others to make these simple changes as well.
Next project is to do something about the coupler gap.
Mike
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Very nice work, Mike! Your personal record has been awarded ten merits for dramatically realistic improvements to F3 cab units of the 16 Class.
Real nice.
I have some cab designs but to obtain the interior measurements involve removing the shells.
Not sure I can put them back on!
As I was going through this process with the body off, I notice the screws were missing on this set for the front truck needed to raise the chassis high enough for the truck to clear the program and smoke switches when it pivots. After I saw this, I noticed a lot of internet videos showing others with this same model are also missing these as either the front or the back of the engine look low. This must be a common issue with these. I added some blue loctite to these screws, hopefully they stay. Picture below for reference.
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@AlanRail posted:Real nice.
I have some cab designs but to obtain the interior measurements involve removing the shells.
Not sure I can put them back on!
Too bad you don't live closer, I'd put them back on for you.