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@Chas posted:

I am wondering if the rear engine had any influence to cause the lead engine to jump up off the tracks upon impact?

Huh? Nothing derailed in this accident. And the answer would be “No.” anyway.

If there was ever a good illustration of the huge difference between the weight and kinetic energy of a typical train and a highway vehicle, this is it! That big trailer was tossed aside like a tiny toy.

Last edited by Rich Melvin

While sifting through the comments a rfew things surfaced:

--the locomotive did derail, but only the front truck (many have noted the lead unit appeared to bounce up upon striking the trailer, with some pointing out that when viewing the footage frame-by-frame, the front truck can be seen to tilt as it strikes the trailer frame)

--the truck driver was attempting to evade a weigh station on nearby I-35, explaining why he wound up on a restricted road with signs warning flatbed trailers not to use this crossing.

--Passenger injuries were the result of the airborne SUV colliding with the first Superliner upon impact.

---PCJ

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that I heard the horn blowing just a second before impact. So, at least one crew member didn't have much a chance to duck.  I hope they are O.K.  I've ridden with crews using cabin cars on eastern commuter trains and they always keep the interior door open just in case they have to make a quick exit.  The job is not for the faint-of- heart.  Rich and others can tell you, no matter how big you are, approaching grade crossings at high speed still causes one's heart rate to raise, if only for a second.       

I have no doubt their heat rate increased a bunch when they say that truckload of cars getting bigger in the window!

You're right, I did hear the horn blowing, and obviously I hope that the crew was OK.  I would have thought they would have mentioned injuries to the crew in the news article if they were injured, they talked about the passengers that were injured by falling cars.

The only mention was the five passengers injured, so I suspect the crew probably ducked when they saw that coming!

There is also a certain amount of protection and crush strength within the cab.  Plus, an auto trailer is spindly by comparison and isn't designed for side impacts.

The injured passengers may have been standing, walking or thrown from their seats.

Rusty

@Allegheny posted:

Well I hope this driver gets his Axx handed to him big time considering all of the unnecessary injuries and destruction of property - because he wanted to avoid the weigh station.

Probably because he knew that he had the trailer overloaded.

The injured passengers may have been standing, walking or thrown from their seats.

One news report I saw said one of the flying cars hit a coach and caused injuries.  Obviously, some could have been injured the way you describe as well.

A few years ago, there was a grade crossing accident on the LIRR due to an impatient driver going around the gates. The motorman (engineer? driver?) actually had enough presence to jump out of the cab and drag several passengers with him further back in the first car. The lead 2 cars derailed after hitting the car and plowed into the end of the station platform.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...lision-accident.html

Watching the video of this accident, it's amazing how the cars on the trailer were tossed like matchbox cars.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that I heard the horn blowing just a second before impact. So, at least one crew member didn't have much a chance to duck.  I hope they are O.K.  I've ridden with crews using cabin cars on eastern commuter trains and they always keep the interior door open just in case they have to make a quick exit.  The job is not for the faint-of- heart.  Rich and others can tell you, no matter how big you are, approaching grade crossings at high speed still causes one's heart rate to raise, if only for a second.       

That is a true statement. One of my uncles was an engineer for amtrak in the 70s/80s. He was running cab end car/commuter train into Boston south station and the dispatcher accidentally put him on an occupied track. He was able to get himself and a passenger out of the first car before they hit. When they hit, even at relatively low speeds, he was thrown forward into the bulkhead and broke his back. He said thats why they used to keep the doors open.

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